January Transfer window

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

You didn’t answer my question

if he’s loaned out come the end of the window because Eustace thinks he needs more minutes to develop is Eustace wrong?

I did. Last paragraph is your answer. 

I would keep Leonard here and play here starting with Portsmouth at home as I think he is ready, rate him highly and I wouldn't loan out. 

 

[roverandout]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

I did. Last paragraph is your answer. 

I would keep Leonard here and play here starting with Portsmouth at home as I think he is ready, rate him highly and I wouldn't loan out. 

 

He's proven he's nowhere near ready

[roversfan99]

8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

You didn’t answer my question

if he’s loaned out come the end of the window because Eustace thinks he needs more minutes to develop is Eustace wrong?

The answer will always be open ended so there can be a change if the opposite happens. Never a yes or no.

[roverandout]

Since Simon garner when did rovers last produce a top class striker from the youth system? Jack Vale? No. Leonard might be decent one day but he's a million miles from being the answer.  Probably James beattie? 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Is  Leonard good enough to lead the line regularly in the championship at this stage if his career? NO

Would I rather play Leonard instead of some bang average prem league under 21 loanee squad filler? YES

Would I rather have a top young prospect in Danns play instead of Leonard? YES.

Easy. 

 

[alex l]

54 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

McFadzean, Garrett, O'Riordan, Leonard, Gilsenan, Sigurdsson, Tyjon should all be moved on (majority loans) this month. I personally like and have hopes for Siggy, but it's not going to happen here.

 

Tyjon is 16, I don't think you can even loan out players of that age and rightly so. 

[Hasta]

17 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Since Simon garner when did rovers last produce a top class striker from the youth system? Jack Vale? No. Leonard might be decent one day but he's a million miles from being the answer.  Probably James beattie? 

Presuming by top class we aren’t meaning ‘world class’, definitely Beattie. At the time he wasn’t deamed ‘good enough’, but 81 Premier League goals and 5 England caps certainly puts him as a top class striker. 

Edited January 12 by Hasta

[Emerald Isle Rover]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I did. Last paragraph is your answer. 

I would keep Leonard here and play here starting with Portsmouth at home as I think he is ready, rate him highly and I wouldn't loan out. 

 

That hasn’t answered the question even if you put it in bold I have asked 

is eustace wrong if we loan him out? 
it’s not a trick question 

[Songman]

Personally I have serious doubts as to whether Harry Leonard has the ability to forge a career at this level. Loan him out would be my preference.

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

That hasn’t answered the question even if you put it in bold I have asked 

is eustace wrong if we loan him out? 
it’s not a trick question 

FFS, I have said very clearly and more than once on here in the last hour that I rated Leonard and I would start next game plus again said very clearly I wouldn't loan him out. I couldn't have been clearly could I? So if Rovers loan Leonard out? Yes I would be against it and think it would be a wrong decision. My original post already told you to your question before you asked it tho. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

FFS, I have said very clearly and more than once on here in the last hour that I rated Leonard and I would start next game plus again said very clearly I wouldn't loan him out. I couldn't have been clearly could I? So if Rovers loan Leonard out? Yes I would be against it and think it would be a wrong decision. My original post already told you to your question before you asked it tho. 

I just like to have it in black and white you saying Eustace being wrong (if it happens) just encase later down the line the narrative changes. Thank you 

[alex l]

16 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Presuming by top class we aren’t meaning ‘world class’, definitely Beattie. At the time he wasn’t dreamed ‘good enough’, but 81 Premier League goals and 5 England caps certainly puts him as a top class striker. 

I'd also argue, and this is not to downplay his record and standing for the club, that Garner wasn't top class as his goals for Rovers were largely if not all outside of the top division. Apologies if this isn't correct. 

[wilsdenrover]

20 minutes ago, alex l said:

Tyjon is 16, I don't think you can even loan out players of that age and rightly so. 

I think 2nd year scholars are the youngest who can be loaned out - and then only to a non league club.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

33 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Since Simon garner when did rovers last produce a top class striker from the youth system? Jack Vale? No. Leonard might be decent one day but he's a million miles from being the answer.  Probably James beattie? 

James Beattie scored 91 Premier League goals - he's by far the best CF we've produced.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's cos I rated Leonard alot and he is good enough to start games right now, made an impact right now with goals and performances. 

I wouldn't loan him out

On this, we have to agree to disagree on Danns. 

Chaddy, Danns will be twice the player Leonard will ever be. Trust me.

Edited January 12 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[sharpysharps86]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

James Beattie scored 91 Premier League goals - he's by far the best CF we've produced.

The decision to give him to Southampton as part of the Kevin Davies deal really was a stinker 😂

[Exiled_Rover]

15 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I just like to have it in black and white you saying Eustace being wrong (if it happens) just encase later down the line the narrative changes. Thank you 

Why does it bother you so much?

[neophox]

Christian Benteke s done well. 

[Theaxe15]

6 minutes ago, neophox said:

Christian Benteke s done well. 

Tell him well done from me

[Emerald Isle Rover]

17 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Why does it bother you so much?

Because his posts in the main are a contradiction 

he deflects a lot like a politician giving as another poster stated open ended answers so he can possibly change it to suit his narrative down the line 

so I pushed for a simple yes or no 

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, roverandout said:

Since Simon garner when did rovers last produce a top class striker from the youth system? Jack Vale? No. Leonard might be decent one day but he's a million miles from being the answer.  Probably James beattie? 

Beattie. Unfortunately we got rid of him for that fat dolloper.

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1 hour ago, roverandout said:

Since Simon garner when did rovers last produce a top class striker from the youth system? Jack Vale? No. Leonard might be decent one day but he's a million miles from being the answer.  Probably James beattie? 

And to think I was on the school team with him playing him through most weeks.... it could of been me 🤣

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Because his posts in the main are a contradiction 

he deflects a lot like a politician giving as another poster stated open ended answers so he can possibly change it to suit his narrative down the line 

so I pushed for a simple yes or no 

My opinion was clearly. I wouldn't loan Leonard out. How much clearer could it be? 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

45 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

James Beattie scored 91 Premier League goals - he's by far the best CF we've produced.

What a bloody awful return for the investment tbh.

 

 

 

[Nic81]

Burnley apparently bidding for Whittaker 😞