January Transfer window

[rovers11]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

‘His injury record is appalling’

That’s enough to suggest no add to the fact that he is currently injured why should we put all our eggs in his basket?

as Iv stated before there has to be better options and if Eustace is adamant he’s the one then he needs his head looked at

Are there better options though that we can afford and that would join us? We're fishing in a very small pond. Cannon should be the one we're pushing the boat out for but we've got about two penny's to spend as per.

[RevidgeBlue]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24856218.blackburn-rovers-boss-john-eustace-play-off-pressure/ 

This doesn't sound as though Eustace is very confident about anyone coming in, seemingly expressing the hope that someone out of the current squad can step up in the second half of the season.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

Are there better options though that we can afford and that would join us? We're fishing in a very small pond. Cannon should be the one we're pushing the boat out for but we've got about two penny's to spend as per.

I hate that counter argument 

I’m not a scout or I’m not part of a recruitment team so it’s not my job

but a player who is currently injured I’m smart enough to know that’s not good business 

[Ricceh]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24856218.blackburn-rovers-boss-john-eustace-play-off-pressure/ 

This doesn't sound as though Eustace is very confident about anyone coming in, seemingly expressing the hope that someone out of the current squad can step up in the second half of the season.

Wasn't there an article this morning where he said the club are working hard to bring in attackers? Maybe he's just winding everyone here up.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Winnable games are coming thick and fast now. I would have thought serious feelers would have been put out for at least one forward once we knew Ohashi was a medium term injury.

Edited 9 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[BigBar]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

i don`t think mowbray did him any favours at the start of his career by continually picking him instead of kicking him up the **** and stating the importance of working off the ball

Maybe so but you would expect someone at some stage to have gotten a hold of him...only himself to blame now.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

15 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24856218.blackburn-rovers-boss-john-eustace-play-off-pressure/ 

This doesn't sound as though Eustace is very confident about anyone coming in, seemingly expressing the hope that someone out of the current squad can step up in the second half of the season.

The response for me is more in terms of losing szmodics who stepped up as opposed to transfer dealings as he was speaking about losing his 33 goals 

 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

i don`t think mowbray did him any favours at the start of his career by continually picking him instead of kicking him up the **** and stating the importance of working off the ball

He wasnt really a regular starter until that one last season under Mowbray which is the only one when he has looked any good. And his primary asset playing high up was winning the ball back so he was working off the ball.

I know its fashionable to back and blame Mowbray for a lot of things but Buckley is not one of those things.

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

thats a bold call.though i don`t think liverpool would sell him even if we had the money and ambition,i think liverpool see him as a possible starter next season

He wont be here next season but he also wont be starting for Liverpool.

38 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

Bamford would be a massive upgrade on our current striking options so I'd welcome him here. His injury record is appalling but if we could get a good half a season out of him then it could be a very smart move.

Hes out for a month so that part wont be particularly smart.

[davulsukur]

Sunderland have been reading @chaddyrovers posts. 

If Sunderland and Sheff Utd are fighting it out for him, we've never stood a chance (thanks Venky's, that's on you)

[roversfan99]

Meanwhile we are trying to decide which of our options, consisting of a young lad not ready for Championship and having just missed a year out injured, and our main striker signed from a relegated Belgian side in the summer who has scored just the one league goal, is the most deserving of covering our striker signed for peanuts from Japan who has scored 1 in something like 18 games whilst he is injured.

[Torgeir]

9 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Sunderland have been reading @chaddyrovers posts. 

If Sunderland and Sheff Utd are fighting it out for him, we've never stood a chance (thanks Venky's, that's on you)

They'll offer more wages than us as well. No chance.

We need a bit of luck in our recruitment when we're shopping in the bargain basement. 

[Bbrovers2288]

Sunderland going for it hard , wish we had owners as aggressive 

[Iceman]

5 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Sunderland going for it hard , wish we had owners as aggressive 

There are good players out there, that could be had for not much, but we have Waggot and Suhail.. many championship clubs over the years, have signed players for cheap, because they had a clued up scouting system in place. 

If we want to get out of this league, then you should be doing your homework as soon as the previous season have ended. Recruitment should never stop when the season ends. 

[JHRover]

8 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

 

The Venkys pay all the bills and prevent us going bust. In business terms that is classed as proper funding. What you class as proper funding is chasing their debts, gambling even more to get to the promised land.

They don't have a clue what they are doing. Or what to do. Or who to trust. Being good in one business doesn't make you good in all businesses.

 

I'm not sure I'd agree with this part. Is it a gamble to allow the club to invest a fraction of the tens of millions it has brought in from sales into new assets / trying to get to the Premier League? 

As you correctly say they've had to pump in tens of millions of their own cash to pick up the tab to float around the doldrums of the Championship for the last 12 years. They must know by now that unless they do something different that is only going to continue. There are only three ways of breaking that cycle:

1) Get to the Premier League

2) Sell the club

3) Get much better at player trading to the point where we somehow find an Adam Wharton or Szmodics EVERY YEAR to basically cover the running costs. 

Option 2 they clearly have no interest in (god knows why not) and option 3 is nigh on impossible, because those sort of players are few and far between, and even more rare when you refuse to reinvest.

It should be noted by them that their biggest transfer success stories in recent years, other than Adam Wharton, have all cost money to start with - Szmodics, Armstrong, Diaz - all multi-million purchases before we 'developed' them. 

So if they want to be good at player trading why do they not follow the template that has worked pretty well for them the last few years? Invest in up and coming assets, spend a few million and then sell? Instead they've turned away from that by turning off the taps even more. 

I wouldn't describe it as a 'gamble' to trust in the recruitment staff / manager to wisely reinvest a % of money they have brought in from sales. A gamble would suggest that there are serious consequences if we get it wrong, but I fail to see what those consequences would be. I am not advocating them handing over a blank chequebook and allowing people to go crazy on wages and transfer fees. Just maybe authorise 25% of transfer receipts to be reinvested by the club over the following 12 months etc.

Of course we might stay in the Championship. You then sell a player or two in a year or two and make money back. 

I try and look at this from another angle. 

If we hadn't got lucky with Adam Wharton emerging from the academy and JDT successfully integrating him into the first team, if Szmodics hadn't surpassed ALL expectations and become the Championship top goalscorer, if David Raya hadn't earned a move to Arsenal, or if any of those had unfortunately suffered major career threatening injuries shortly before those moves, then we wouldn't have had anywhere near the circa £35 million we have had or will get from them.

Had we had not had that money, assuming the owners wouldn't have sold us, then they would have to have found probably most of that from their own resources to keep the lights on at Ewood for the last 2 years. As it goes it seems likely that they will have avoided having to use their own resources by directing the club to survive on these transfer fees.

But fundamentally someone somewhere in India must have expected or budgeted for the owners having to supply another £20 million+ to the club the last couple of years which they have saved by virtue of those transfer. 

What I and others think the owners should do is look at the position we are in and the opportunity we have, and use say 10-20% of that money saved , which on another day they would have paid out already, to give the manager and club a chance.

That clearly isn't featuring in their warped minds. I also genuinely believe that there is zero attempt or effort by anyone in a employed capacity at Ewood to contact the owners and encourage/advise them to make this effort. This isn't an attempt to divert responsibility, which fundamentally lies in India, but the charlatans on the ground have a duty to advise and guide the owners yet I don't think there is any such push, because the status quo of playing god with Rovers in the Championship on very lucrative money and no doubt bonuses for saving the Indians cash is too damn lucrative.

[davulsukur]

18 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Sunderland going for it hard , wish we had owners as aggressive 

Yep, remember this when you're watching Sunderland win the play offs whilst we are 11th

[Theaxe15]

4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Yep, remember this when you're watching Sunderland win the play offs whilst we are 11th

Wouldn’t rule them out for automatics at this rate 

[Herbie6590]

13 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I also genuinely believe that there is zero attempt or effort by anyone in an employed capacity at Ewood to contact the owners and encourage/advise them to make this effort. This isn't an attempt to divert responsibility, which fundamentally lies in India, but the charlatans on the ground have a duty to advise and guide the owners yet I don't think there is any such push, because the status quo of playing god with Rovers in the Championship on very lucrative money and no doubt bonuses for saving the Indians cash is too damn lucrative.

I suspect the UK board have been told not to bother asking India as the answer will be “No”.

Every recent action points to Rovers having to be self sustaining. 
They’ll only send money to stop us going into administration IMO “to save face”. 

[Mattyblue]

The likes of Swag operate in the interests of the owners, not for the betterment of Blackburn Rovers.

[Bohinen1983]

Bamford, Brereton and a rapid winger or two.

[Herbie6590]

1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

The likes of Swag operate in the interests of the owners, not for the betterment of Blackburn Rovers.

Exactly. They pay his wages, he carries out their instructions. 
Why the hell do we think he’ll ever rock the boat? 🤷‍♂️

[JHRover]

1 minute ago, Herbie6590 said:

I suspect the UK board have been told not to bother asking India as the answer will be “No”.

Every recent action points to Rovers having to be self sustaining. 
They’ll only send money to stop us going into administration IMO “to save face”. 

indeed. Yet they will know that we can't be self-sustaining. If they seriously believe that the transfer receipts of tens of millions we've had the last few years are going to be regular events then they are more nuts than I ever imagined, because that isn't happening. So in a year or so's time we are back to square one - a Championship club requiring £10-15 million best case scenario to stand still. 

They've had to do this now for 10+ years. They will know better than any other owner of the costs of this. So if they are now at a point where they don't want to, or can't, do any more than the bare minimum, it would surely make sense either to sell, or to make some effort to get to the one place of self-sufficiency, that being the PL?

[Herbie6590]

Sense & Venky’s ? 
 

Mutually incompatible. 😆

[J*B]

40 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

Bamford, Brereton and a rapid winger or two.

Delusion, naivety and a confusing lack of acknowledgement to recent history. 

[J*B]

10 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Exactly. They pay his wages, he carries out their instructions. 
Why the hell do we think he’ll ever rock the boat? 🤷‍♂️

He’s actually a surprisingly efficient operator. He’s managing to do exactly what the owners want and not cause protests. 

[rigger]

7 hours ago, Rogerb said:

Think Dolan is the new Hoillett.

Without the speed.