January Transfer window

[roversfan99]

The reaction to Thomas Asante is a mixed bag. Even if Robins does want him back, it doesnt invalidate any opinions that others have.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I'd have him here in a heartbeat personally.

Looked absolutely ridiculous whenever he's played against us

I dont get why, apart from that he had that good game against us. Loads of baggage and seldom scores.

[roverandout]

34 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Shame - seems odd that a player who is absolutely terrible, who the Cov fans are seemingly willing to “drive him there…” is now being chased by the manager who paid £3m for him last summer?

So, Mark Robins sees something in BTA….who wouldve thought it!? 👀🙈

Because we're in a position where we need someone to put the ball in the net. This is probably one of our best chances in ages of getting into the play offs. Stoke are middling around midtable.  Now isnt the Time to be taking risks. Edit they're 19th but its doubtful they'll go down

Edited Thursday at 13:01 by roverandout

[Dogburster]

0.25 goals per game in the Championship, not worth it but might be the best of a bad bunch of who is available

[neophox]

I hope we try for Thelo Aasgard Wigan cracking player and Wigan won't go up this season so think he would want to come to a top champ side.

[AVE1875]

Aasgaard is a no brainer for me, I find it unusual that there isn't more interest in him especially from the Championship.

Edited Thursday at 13:08 by AVE1875
Typo

[B16Rover]

Getting this one from football manager again but there's a 17 year old with 6 goals in the Irish top flight.  You'd think he'd be worth a punt in the 21s, not a priority obviously 

[joey_big_nose]

8 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

Getting this one from football manager again but there's a 17 year old with 6 goals in the Irish top flight.  You'd think he'd be worth a punt in the 21s, not a priority obviously 

I think thats the first i ever seen a suggestion of a nameless player from a computer game??

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I think thats the first i ever seen a suggestion of a nameless player from a computer game??

It'll be on Howard's twitter feed in about half an hour though.

[RoryRoversIreland]

18 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

Getting this one from football manager again but there's a 17 year old with 6 goals in the Irish top flight.  You'd think he'd be worth a punt in the 21s, not a priority obviously 

Probably Mason Malia. I sent him to Rudy via LinkedIn during the summer. 
too late now, Spurs had a bid rejected a few weeks ago. Was in the millions. 

[RevidgeBlue]

27 minutes ago, AVE1875 said:

Aasgaard is a no brainer for me, I find it unusual that there isn't more interest in him especially from the Championship.

This is the sort of area and price range where if they had any sense the owners should be putting their money. Sounds like this lad would be a fairly good investment.

Similarly if Beck was available on a permanent deal for £3m to £4m as was allegedly the case last summer then that's an absolute no brainer as well and as close to a sure fire thing as you could possibly get.

You'd be 99.999% guaranteed to make a healthy profit on him if you ever sold him and in the meantime you've got an unbelievable player.

Armstrong who we made an insane profit on was in that £3m sort of category as well.

[B16Rover]

34 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I think thats the first i ever seen a suggestion of a nameless player from a computer game??

I'm going the Nixon route, pay me monthly and tell you who it may or may not be. 

 

But as @RoryRoversIreland mentioned, it's Melia 

[DuffsLeftPeg]

On 11/01/2025 at 13:14, Exiled_Rover said:

Because it's a young man's game. You lose athleticism (especially explosion) the older you get - otherwise Zidane would still be plying his trade. 

Wiemann says otherwise. His recent goals prove he’s still got it, at very least for this season.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

The reaction to Thomas Asante is a mixed bag. Even if Robins does want him back, it doesnt invalidate any opinions that others have.

Of course it doesn’t an opinion is an opinion at the end of the day

but it does strengthen the argument for those who have the opinion that he would be a good signing. A much thought of and sought after efl manager looking the player would suggest he has something about him

 

[JHRover]

49 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

This is the sort of area and price range where if they had any sense the owners should be putting their money. Sounds like this lad would be a fairly good investment.

Similarly if Beck was available on a permanent deal for £3m to £4m as was allegedly the case last summer then that's an absolute no brainer as well and as close to a sure fire thing as you could possibly get.

You'd be 99.999% guaranteed to make a healthy profit on him if you ever sold him and in the meantime you've got an unbelievable player.

Armstrong who we made an insane profit on was in that £3m sort of category as well.

They just don't get it do they? I can forgive them being uninterested and clueless about football (still) but when it comes to the money side of things you would think by now they and their advisors would have worked out this sort of thing.

They've raked in £40 million+ in the last couple of years over half of which came as a direct result of them making an initial outlay and cash purchase. Prior to that they had Armstrong which was the last big sale. They've also had others in Rothwell, Diaz, Dack that in different circumstances they could easily have had £10-20 million in for had they managed contracts better or were it not for Dack's injuries.

So conceivably they could have had their grubby mitts on £60 million+ worth of player sales in the last 3 years or so. 

They've had about £50 million when you go back to summer 2021 and Adam Armstrong getting sold.

You'd think they'd quite like more of that in the next few years. Repeat the trick. Get another 3-4 in who might go for the same again and keep the party going for longer without the need for them to use up their own cash.

Yet they won't. They won't sell, they won't reinvest, they won't allow the club to even try to develop more serious assets by releasing a small share of the money back into recruitment.

Just nuts. They might think they are being clever by not putting more than the bare minimum into the club but all this is going to mean is that in a few years' time we are going to be devoid of assets and at best a struggling Championship side still losing £10-15 million a year which they will have to pick up the tab for. 

 

[Exiled_Rover]

7 minutes ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

Wiemann says otherwise. His recent goals prove he’s still got it, at very least for this season.

An ex-PL player who is now plying his trade as a rotation player in an unspectacular Championship side?

I think that makes my point perfectly, no?

[roversfan99]

9 minutes ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

Wiemann says otherwise. His recent goals prove he’s still got it, at very least for this season.

Hes not the player he has been at the past. Playing in the Premier League or scoring 20+ for Bristol City.

9 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Of course it doesn’t an opinion is an opinion at the end of the day

but it does strengthen the argument for those who have the opinion that he would be a good signing. A much thought of and sought after efl manager looking the player would suggest he has something about him

 

Think of the various managers that have signed Jason Lowe for example. They arent always right. And managers are often not responsible for signings directly, and they are working under budget restrictions. And you often see players who have played at the level going to various clubs because its sometimes easier rather than taking a risk looking further afield.

I do think Thomas Asante has something about him, he is very quick. Hes not a waste of space or anything like that, there is some logic to it. He is probably better than anything we have too. Maybe he will prove to be the best we can afford in our budget. But he isnt a natural goalscorer or the difference maker to be more ruthless that Eustace touched on in the press, unless he does something here that he never has before. 

Considering its not a case of waiting to borrow someone, if we do want him so much, theres no reason to drag it out. Some important games between now and February.

Edited Thursday at 14:45 by roversfan99

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

This is the sort of area and price range where if they had any sense the owners should be putting their money. Sounds like this lad would be a fairly good investment.

Similarly if Beck was available on a permanent deal for £3m to £4m as was allegedly the case last summer then that's an absolute no brainer as well and as close to a sure fire thing as you could possibly get.

You'd be 99.999% guaranteed to make a healthy profit on him if you ever sold him and in the meantime you've got an unbelievable player.

Armstrong who we made an insane profit on was in that £3m sort of category as well.

I'd imagine Beck would cost double that now. Ironically we've given him the platform to massively increase his sale price. The time to negotiate a fee was during the loan talks. We'd only be able to get him if we went up now I expect.

The general principle of investing in players like that though, I totally agree.

Edited Thursday at 14:53 by bluebruce

[Paul Mani]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The reaction to Thomas Asante is a mixed bag. Even if Robins does want him back, it doesnt invalidate any opinions that others have.

Absolutely. Opinions are opinions…

But, Robins wanting to re-sign BTA is a far stronger indication that he’s worth a punt than Steve from British Gas, who’s watched the EFL highlights show twice and spent 10 minutes on TransferMarkt, saying his “Fukkin Shite”

If you catch my drift? 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Hes not the player he has been at the past. Playing in the Premier League or scoring 20+ for Bristol City.

Think of the various managers that have signed Jason Lowe for example. They arent always right. And managers are often not responsible for signings directly, and they are working under budget restrictions. And you often see players who have played at the level going to various clubs because its sometimes easier rather than taking a risk looking further afield.

I do think Thomas Asante has something about him, he is very quick. Hes not a waste of space or anything like that, there is some logic to it. He is probably better than anything we have too. Maybe he will prove to be the best we can afford in our budget. But he isnt a natural goalscorer or the difference maker to be more ruthless that Eustace touched on in the press, unless he does something here that he never has before. 

Considering its not a case of waiting to borrow someone, if we do want him so much, theres no reason to drag it out. Some important games between now and February.

Jason Lowe went for free and was likely picked up for his experience rather than ability it’s completely different when you are paying couple of million for a player but yes managers can get it wrong and have done in the past 

it’s a case of we won’t know until it happens 

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Absolutely. Opinions are opinions…

But, Robins wanting to re-sign BTA is a far stronger indication that he’s worth a punt than Steve from British Gas, who’s watched the EFL highlights show twice and spent 10 minutes on TransferMarkt, saying his “Fukkin Shite”

If you catch my drift? 

If he is sold, then presumably that means Lampard (who should know a player when he sees one) doesn't rate him.

Or does his opinion not count?

[TheRevAshton]

47 minutes ago, JHRover said:

They just don't get it do they? I can forgive them being uninterested and clueless about football (still) but when it comes to the money side of things you would think by now they and their advisors would have worked out this sort of thing.

They've raked in £40 million+ in the last couple of years over half of which came as a direct result of them making an initial outlay and cash purchase. Prior to that they had Armstrong which was the last big sale. They've also had others in Rothwell, Diaz, Dack that in different circumstances they could easily have had £10-20 million in for had they managed contracts better or were it not for Dack's injuries.

So conceivably they could have had their grubby mitts on £60 million+ worth of player sales in the last 3 years or so. 

They've had about £50 million when you go back to summer 2021 and Adam Armstrong getting sold.

You'd think they'd quite like more of that in the next few years. Repeat the trick. Get another 3-4 in who might go for the same again and keep the party going for longer without the need for them to use up their own cash.

Yet they won't. They won't sell, they won't reinvest, they won't allow the club to even try to develop more serious assets by releasing a small share of the money back into recruitment.

Just nuts. They might think they are being clever by not putting more than the bare minimum into the club but all this is going to mean is that in a few years' time we are going to be devoid of assets and at best a struggling Championship side still losing £10-15 million a year which they will have to pick up the tab for. 

 

Exactly this... £40m+ raked in from players sales in the last couple of years, that should be seen a massive opportunity for the owners.

If they invested a mere 25% of that income, £10m, back into the playing squad... they'd;

• Make the squad very competitive in this league, with play-offs somewhat nailed-on.
• On the back of the above, promotion becomes very possible... hello PL riches?!
• Have fresh young assets, who are likely to double/triple/quadruple in value...

Then they could literally just rinse/repeat! Worked for Brentford...

Sure, keep a chunk of the proceeds from players sales for the bills, i'd totally understand that... but the issue is that they're using all of it for the bills and neglecting the squad.

It's just a matter of time before; the money runs out, the assets are all gone, the squad is in dire straits and relegation is back on the cards... then we're back to needing "£20m" a year solely from them again.

Surely, they're fantastic business people... right? So how are they not getting this? Would genuinely love to hear their thoughts on it.

Edited Thursday at 15:23 by TheRevAshton

[booth]

2 hours ago, neophox said:

I hope we try for Thelo Aasgard Wigan cracking player and Wigan won't go up this season so think he would want to come to a top champ side.

We should be trying to make it happen if we aren't already. He looks to be a game changer.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

If he is sold, then presumably that means Lampard (who should know a player when he sees one) doesn't rate him.

Or does his opinion not count?

if a team has their striker (who’s better) ie hagi wright

BTA has expressed his desire to play through the middle (according to som cov fans)

Lampard could cash in for couple mill and reinvest 

city sold Alvarez to Madrid simply because pep had haaland / Alvarez wanted more gametime. does that mean pep thinks Alvarez is poor? 

[JamieUK]

It's not going to happen but Bezza B on that left hand side would be back to his best in this side. There was a chance last night in the first half played out there totally squandered (Hedges?), prime Diaz would have taken it forward and curled it into the far corner. Him and a scoring striker would keep this squad in the play-offs. Loan both and what would the cost be - £1.5m/£2m? For a shot at £100m's. I'd prefer proper signings but the names being touted aren't inspiring.