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5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The doubts set in for me right at the end of the promotion season and the following close season. Up until then I had been a fan of his.  He showed minimal ambition to kick on when the club was briefly on the crest of a wave.  After that I was just waiting for him to leave. It turned out to be a long wait !

The crap he came out with about reigning the owners ambition after promotion did for me.  Rather than trying to go for it, he diluted all expectations quoting long term projects and stability....and here we still are. 

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3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I do and I remember many worse times before under lesser men and managers does that mean I avoided rovers? Real fans dont just pick and choose when they are interested in supporting the team

vent their frustrations absolutely be annoyed absolutely but avoid and take little interest that’s not a fan 

I'd say that sums up most football fans.  Just because you aren't 'hardcore' doesn't mean you aren't a fan.  

Now if you start watching and supporting another team - you aren't a fan.  You can fuck right off.

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45 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Some people just lost all reason in terms of judging Mowbray and you would think years after his departure may have regained some balance but no.

"Horrific" "couldnt stand him" and would have to avoid Rovers if he was here, deary me.

Did a good job, stayed a bit too long, his departure was welcomed. 

Convinced the owners that promotion was a long-term process. Said himself he had to vigorously dissuade Iron Bar Venky from spending big money on transfers like he wanted to.

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2 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

I'd say that sums up most football fans.  Just because you aren't 'hardcore' doesn't mean you aren't a fan.  

Now if you start watching and supporting another team - you aren't a fan.  You can fuck right off.

There’s a difference between hardcore and avoidance. Picking and choosing when you are fully behind the team etc imo isn’t a true fan 

can you be a disgruntled fan absolutely many of us currently are 

But maybe putting rovers to one side or shelving them for a season whilst you don’t like the manager to me that’s not a true fan more a fair weather fan 

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9 minutes ago, smiller14 said:

I was a big critic of Mowbray but wouldn't say he's half as bad as some comments suggest.

He was unfortunate to have a relegation on his CV, results were okay that season when he came in after inheriting a total mess. Got us back up but still frustrated he rested half the team vs Charlton and gave up any hope of the title.

After that, it was mixed. Some very famous death spirals, some moments of hope. Easy to forget his final season points total was identical to the following season under JDT. Although the complete capitulation made it feel a lot worse. 
 

I wish him the best, he's a good man. He did a very good job at Sunderland too. I'm much happier with Eustace but history will be relatively kind to Mowbray I think. Another poor appointment after Coyle and we could have really fallen into the abyss.

He was a good man who intentionally made sure we weren't in contention for promotion to line his pension 

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5 minutes ago, roverandout said:

He was a good man who intentionally made sure we weren't in contention for promotion to line his pension 

I think that's a stretch. He was cautious and too 'safe' but to suggest he chucked it and deliberately didn't win games feels like total hyperbole to me.

There was perhaps an element of self-preservation in lowering expectations but if he achieved promotion he stood to gain a lot more than plodding in mid-table. He just wasn't a good enough manager to achieve it. 

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1 minute ago, Rover down South said:

If that’s true and it’s £2.5 million, what are we waiting for?

Would love a punt on him. Not sure on the source though - 134 followers. That being said, we've long been linked with him so maybe there's a chance?

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2 minutes ago, smiller14 said:

I think that's a stretch. He was cautious and too 'safe' but to suggest he chucked it and deliberately didn't win games feels like total hyperbole to me.

There was perhaps an element of self-preservation in lowering expectations but if he achieved promotion he stood to gain a lot more than plodding in mid-table. He just wasn't a good enough manager to achieve it. 

Agree with most of that but if we'd have gone up in his mind he could have thought the club would go for a bigger name plus if we had gone straight back down his position could have been under threat. Sailing along nicely in the championship would have suited him

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1 minute ago, roverandout said:

Agree with most of that but if we'd have gone up in his mind he could have thought the club would go for a bigger name plus if we had gone straight back down his position could have been under threat. Sailing along nicely in the championship would have suited him

I'm sure getting promoted with us would have been a lot better for his CV than mid table mediocrity

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31 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Highly doubt we'll win this "race", probably complete bollocks anyway!

Best club on that list, good relationship with Liverpool in terms of loans, Beck here already, he'll get plenty of minutes as we desperately need a striker. I'd say if we were serious about it we'd be in a very strong position to win it. 

But like you said, probably not true. 

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