January Transfer window

[islander200]

4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It’s not always about goals and assists. He kept Brittain back in our half all the time he was on. Brittain only got forward at the death.

Fair enough 

But the fact he spends a considerable time out of the first 11 at his clubs isn't a concern?

His work ethic has been called out by managers aswell.

He was available for a reasonable fee in the summer and ended up at newly promoted Oxford. 

We need better than him

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Fair enough 

But the fact he spends a considerable time out of the first 11 at his clubs isn't a concern?

His work ethic has been called out by managers aswell.

He was available for a reasonable fee in the summer and ended up at newly promoted Oxford. 

We need better than him

Venkys won’t provide any budget to get better than him 

[islander200]

2 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

So you've agreed he's better than what we have but above you've said "no loss to us". We need players in to improve us, he would.

We're going down a hole here because he won't be coming but for me, he we should have got him in last window. 

Better at getting bums off seats with a few fancy turns 

But doesn't track back ,we wouldn't be as strong defensively 

We need better than.him and like I said he is such a dangerous player from an attacking point of view Oxford was the best he could do?

[TheRevAshton]

53 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Fair enough 

But the fact he spends a considerable time out of the first 11 at his clubs isn't a concern?

His work ethic has been called out by managers aswell.

He was available for a reasonable fee in the summer and ended up at newly promoted Oxford. 

We need better than him

Do we currently have a better winger than him though? Absolutely not.

Think they got him for around £800k.

For context; We paid £500k for Connor O'Riordan, £750k for Dilan Markanday and over £1.5m for Makhtar Gueye.

The bottom line is; Eustace really wanted him, he's better than any of our wingers, and he was going for a modest fee (considering his experience and age). We should have got him.

Edited Monday at 10:07 by TheRevAshton

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said:

Question: Would you keep Garret on for the season over Forshaw after the 60 minutes we witnessed?

I know its only 60 minutes, but he got turned alot in midfield, easy to pop it around and struggled to keep up. He tried Il give him that, but looked off the pace, put a couple challenges in when he was close, but overall looked past it, but again was only one 60 mins. 
For all Garretts inexperience, least he can get around a pitch... Just wondered what people would pick. From what I have seen hes no better than a current Garrett or JRC. I can see why theye got him in for peanuts, but not sure we can be asking him to start games.

I’d have to see what Garrett is like in training. One thing - at least he’ll be fresh as a daisy. He’s hardly played at all for two months.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Do we currently have a better winger than him though? Absolutely not.

Think they got him for around £800k.

For context; We paid £500k for Connor O'Riordan, £750k for Dilan Markanday and over £1.5m for Makhtar Gueye.

The bottom line is; Eustace really wanted him, he's better than our other wingers, and he was going for a modest fee (considering his experience and age). We should have got him.

Eustace will know what he’s capable of better than any of us. We either trust his judgement or we don’t.

[islander200]

1 minute ago, TheRevAshton said:

Do we currently have a better winger than him though? Absolutely not.

Think they got him for around £800k. For context, we paid £500k for Connor O'Riordan and £750k for Dilan Markanday.

The bottom line is; Eustace really wanted him, he's better than our other wingers, and he was going for a modest fee (considering his experience and age) - we should have got him.

How much of a wage js he on?

I'm not convinced by him and being better than Hedges isn't big enough reason for me to sign him.

Have you watched much of him?Having a good game against us doesn't make him the answer to our problems.

The evidence is he loses his place at nearly every team,even Peterborough he spent time on their bench

I also bet he will be on decent money wages wise, more money than the value he would bring to the 11

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

57 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

The first championship vacancy that comes up .

If he’s here this time next year I’ll be amazed.

[Rover down South]

I’ll throw the name Harvey Vale in again. Contract up in summer, but Chelsea have said he can go for nothing this window, but they want a sell on clause inserted into any deal.

Versatile player who can play left back and anywhere across the midfield.

Had a loan spell at Hull a few seasons back which was hampered by an injury and manager changes. Last season was at Bristol Rovers and they raved about him. Captained England U19’s when they won U19 euros in 2022. Can ping a good pass, works hard and knows how to finish.

Plenty of championship clubs interested including Sunderland & Stoke and I’d rather take a punt on someone like him than another Adam Forshaw.

Edit: Think his current wages might be a stumbling block as they are ‘Chelsea’ wages, but if he wants to kick start his career?

Edited Monday at 09:39 by Rover down South

[Emerald Isle Rover]

13 minutes ago, islander200 said:

How much of a wage js he on?

I'm not convinced by him and being better than Hedges isn't big enough reason for me to sign him.

Have you watched much of him?Having a good game against us doesn't make him the answer to our problems.

The evidence is he loses his place at nearly every team,even Peterborough he spent time on their bench

I also bet he will be on decent money wages wise, more money than the value he would bring to the 11

15k per week

[TheRevAshton]

5 minutes ago, Rover down South said:

I’ll throw the name Harvey Vale in again. Contract up in summer, but Chelsea have said he can go for nothing this window, but they want a sell on clause inserted into any deal.

Versatile player who can play left back and anywhere across the midfield.

Had a loan spell at Hull a few seasons back which was hampered by an injury and manager changes. Last season was at Bristol Rovers and they raved about him. Captained England U19’s when they won U19 euros in 2022. Can ping a good pass, works hard and knows how to finish.

Plenty of championship clubs interested including Sunderland & Stoke and I’d rather take a punt on someone like him than another Adam Forshaw.

Edit: Think his current wages might be a stumbling block as they are ‘Chelsea’ wages, but if he wants to kick start his career?

Would be a smart bit of business, though like you said the wages would be an issue - he'd have to take a big pay-cut to come here.

Massive resale potential if he could find his groove.

[joey_big_nose]

1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

15k per week

Thought that seemed a lot for a player moving from a league one side to a newly promoted championship side. But as he went to Bournemouth first then Birmingham it seems reasonable. Surprised Oxford can afford it though.

Is there a source on that?

[roverblue]

Iv reached the point of desperation where I would largely take any attacking signings at this point just to freshen things up. I can't face another half season of Dolan and Hedges on the wings!

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said:

Thought that seemed a lot for a player moving from a league one side to a newly promoted championship side. But as he went to Bournemouth first then Birmingham it seems reasonable. Surprised Oxford can afford it though.

Is there a source on that?

C apology and salary report - how reliable not sure but both have the same figures 

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1 minute ago, roverblue said:

Iv reached the point of desperation where I would largely take any attacking signings at this point just to freshen things up. I can't face another half season of Dolan and Hedges on the wings!

their just tired of waiting now, watching us slowly become depleted then put out of contention.

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

C apology and salary report - how reliable not sure but both have the same figures 

Actually salary sport have it as 9k per week 

[islander200]

8 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Thought that seemed a lot for a player moving from a league one side to a newly promoted championship side. But as he went to Bournemouth first then Birmingham it seems reasonable. Surprised Oxford can afford it though.

Is there a source on that?

He was probably on 20k+ at Brum

His career stats certainly don't suggest he is worthy of that contract.

I suppose its a sign of where Venkys have taken us that people are acting distraught that we didn't sign him in the summer, and such a talent ended up at newly promoted Oxford instead 

[jim mk2]

11 hours ago, unleaded said:

Looking like Conner O ‘Riordon heading back to Crewe .… loan…Was in the dug out on Saturday…. Another one of Greg’s 500K bad eggs …..will save a 2k … They have been ringing around desperately trying to give the deadwood away just to save every little bit ……

Depressing post

This chap tends to have his ear close to the ground.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

He was probably on 20k+ at Brum

His career stats certainly don't suggest he is worthy of that contract.

I suppose its a sign of where Venkys have taken us that people are acting distraught that we didn't sign him in the summer, and such a talent ended up at newly promoted Oxford instead 

There’s actually 4/5 players at Oxford I’d happily take without question so not sure why you keep referencing ‘newly promoted Oxford’ that’s irrelevant 

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

There’s actually 4/5 players at Oxford I’d happily take without question so not sure why you keep referencing ‘newly promoted Oxford’ that’s irrelevant 

Rowett's made them into a very solid outfit. We seem to struggle against his teams and we were second best most of the 90. I'd take their No 8 and the left winger all day long. 

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, TheRevAshton said:

Eustace paints a frustrated figure in the latest LET article, again reiterating how he needs reinforcements - along with the classic 'nothing imminent' message.

It couldn't be more clear that we're lacking quality in attack, we'd have possibly won the Oxford game had they brought in a decent winger and a striker in the last 20 days of the window...

We're very fortunate that other results went our way over the weekend, we'd be down to about 8th right now had they not.

There are now 14 days left of the window, with 3 games plotted in during that period... they need to stop pissing around now and put their hands in their pockets for the gaffer. He'll be gone at the end of the season if he isn't backed in this window, I feel sure of that - and he isn't short of admirers.

Waggott and the shadow dweller are close to meeting their objectives for the season and we aren't even through January yet. 

Almost certain to survive as even an implosion like last year would still likely see us limp to 50 points.

Increased TV deal

Still getting the Szmodics and Wharton instalments.

Still counting the cash from the Boxing Day and Dingle games.

Extra cash for the Wolves home game

Fans happy and many ready to lap up the 'unlucky' line as injuries begin to take hold. 

We need to recognise that the owners don't know or care what happens. The only two people who are in any sort of position to influence the owners in any way are not employed to try and get us promoted or win games. They are here to reduce cost and hassle to the owners and to keep themselves in well paid employment.

There is absolutely no reason that I can think of why either of them would attempt to seriously back Eustace in January. Their only concern will be doing just enough to prevent Eustace from throwing his toys out of the pram a la Tomasson last year, as mid-season managerial departures are extra hassle and expense that they don't want or need. So they'll have to bring in a few just to try and keep Eustace content for the next few months. 

That's about it. 

 

[islander200]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

There’s actually 4/5 players at Oxford I’d happily take without question so not sure why you keep referencing ‘newly promoted Oxford’ that’s irrelevant 

It's relevant in the fact Dembele was available for a reasonable fee but no established championship club took him.

I don't know maybe it was the fact he couldn't get his place in a team relegated last season that put them off.

Or maybe it was Mowbrays words about him not tracking back that put them off 

Just isn't a player worth being disappointed over not signing him imo

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, TheRevAshton said:

Current status of the squad;

4 of our main starters (Carter, Pickering, Travis and Ohashi), and now our best player (Tronstad) all injured.

We already had nothing up top, now we have nothing in the middle either... these simpletons need to act now and help Eustace out.

I honestly had a feint bit of hope that they wouldn't pull this shit again, and that they'd back the gaffer at least a little - how foolish of me.

Laid out bare, for all to see there.

What an utter disgrace this ownership is.

I reckon, that whole squad cost like what £6.5m? 

Pears - £500k

Toth - £750k

Brittain - £1m

Hyam - £1.5m

Pickering - £750k

Cantwell - £500k

Ohashi - £250k (rumored to be less)

Hedges - £250k

Gueye - £1m

All the rest are either academy graduates, loans or free transfers.

The lack of investment in this squad is absolutely shocking.

Once again, we reiterate that we've raked in £40m in transfer fees in 18months. 

#VenkysOut 

[ABRAM ROVER]

5 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Laid out bare, for all to see there.

What an utter disgrace this ownership is.

I reckon, that whole squad cost like what £6.5m? 

Pears - £500k

Toth - £750k

Brittain - £1m

Hyam - £1.5m

Pickering - £750k

Cantwell - £500k

Ohashi - £250k (rumored to be less)

Hedges - £250k

Gueye - £1m

All the rest are either academy graduates, loans or free transfers.

The lack of investment in this squad is absolutely shocking.

Once again, we reiterate that we've raked in £40m in transfer fees in 18months. 

#VenkysOut 

Spot on couldn't agree more. When we spend F all again on cheap options and loans WATR trust can copy and paste this in the no confidence announcement and protest announcement. 

[MB Rover]

21 minutes ago, islander200 said:

It's relevant in the fact Dembele was available for a reasonable fee but no established championship club took him.

I don't know maybe it was the fact he couldn't get his place in a team relegated last season that put them off.

Or maybe it was Mowbrays words about him not tracking back that put them off 

Just isn't a player worth being disappointed over not signing him imo

We’ve just signed a man from the same team that went down and been told to be happy cos it’s a Eustace player 😭