January Transfer window

[TheRevAshton]

6 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Apparently has a terrible attitude. Doesn't appear to have pulled up any trees in any of his previous loan spells either, including one last season at Gueye's previous club in Belgium.

Oh yeah I definitely wouldn't recommend signing him - but can see him coming on our radar very soon.

Everything you mentioned there points to him being available on the cheap, which is the only criteria that matters to our lot.

Edited 18 hours ago by TheRevAshton

[Rover down South]

Few posters on 'X' again this morning linking us with a loan move for Danns. Preston & Stoke linked too. Looks like this is coming from Liverpool's end too so maybe formal interest gone in?

I'd be absolutely delighted to bring him here. Liverpool fans reluctant to see him go and really rate him.

[BankEnd Rover]

Not seen enough of Danns really to judge but if he's on the same level as Beck then we should be looking to bring him in.

We do need to bring a permanent in though - Hopefully Kargbo. We need cover at LB which will most likely be a loan and then a CM. 

Edited 18 hours ago by BankEnd Rover

[TheRevAshton]

10 minutes ago, Rover down South said:

Few posters on 'X' again this morning linking us with a loan move for Danns. Preston & Stoke linked too. Looks like this is coming from Liverpool's end too so maybe formal interest gone in?

I'd be absolutely delighted to bring him here. Liverpool fans reluctant to see him go and really rate him.

He can play on the LW or as a ST, he's exactly what we need; big, strong, quick and hungry to prove himself... they need to make this one happen!

The ideal end to this window for me looks something like;

LB - Harry Toffolo (Loan)
CM - Lewis O'brien (Loan)
LW - Thelo Aasgaard (Perm)
ST - Jayden Danns (Loan)
ST - Richard Kone (Perm)

Before anyone says it; I fully agree and acknowledge that this is incredibly unlikely, wishful thinking, never gonna happen under these owners etc.

However, this is what a Club in our position should be doing - and what i'd consider to be an ideal bit of business in this window.

What we're actually going to end up with, looks nothing like the above.

Edited 18 hours ago by TheRevAshton

[BankEnd Rover]

1 minute ago, TheRevAshton said:

He can play on the LW or as a ST, he's exactly what we need; big, strong, quick and hungry to prove himself... they need to make this one happen!

The ideal end to this window for me looks something like;

LB - Harry Toffolo (Loan)
CM - Lewis O'brien (Loan)
LW - Thelo Aasgaard (Perm)
ST - Jayden Danns (Loan)
ST - Richard Kone (Perm)

Before anyone says it; I know this is incredibly unlikely, wishful thinking, never gonna happen under these owners etc.

However, this is what a Club in our position should be doing - and what i'd consider an ideal bit of business in this window given our position.

What we're actually going to end up with, looks nothing like the above.

Is that Aasgaard actually a LW? Doesn't strike me as one and seems to be more a Cantwell player.

I think Cantwell will be sold in summer so he'll be an ideal replacement.
We'll get out muscled though so, I don't think we stand a chance getting him.

[Exiled_Rover]

5 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

He can play on the LW or as a ST, he's exactly what we need; big, strong, quick and hungry to prove himself... they need to make this one happen!

The ideal end to this window for me looks something like;

LB - Harry Toffolo (Loan)
CM - Lewis O'brien (Loan)
LW - Thelo Aasgaard (Perm)
ST - Jayden Danns (Loan)
ST - Richard Kone (Perm)

Before anyone says it; I fully agree and acknowledge that this is incredibly unlikely, wishful thinking, never gonna happen under these owners etc.

However, this is what a Club in our position should be doing - and what i'd consider to be an ideal bit of business in this window.

What we're actually going to end up with, looks nothing like the above.

So the club should be spaffing this £40m transfer windfall on loans? Seems sustainable. 

[roversfan99]

You can only have 5 in a matchday squad and we already have 3.

[rob_of_the_rovers]

5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So the club should be spaffing this £40m transfer windfall on loans? Seems sustainable. 

Don't forget the stop gap 30-odd year olds on 6 month deals

[LeftWinger]

3 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Possibly, I expect the physicality and intensity of the English game has come as a huge shock to him. I wouldn’t raise your hopes though, at his age he’ll find it hard to adapt and I’m not sure he has the attributes to be a success. 

The club were a bit concerned burnout with Ohashi in early December. He'd come straight from finishing his season in Japan to starting this one. I think he will be OK at this level, but not more than that.

[Ricceh]

Lads we will get 2 in maximum, let's be honest. I hope it's a striker and a winger, but I have a feeling it'll be two aging defenders and we'll be told to get lost.

[TheRevAshton]

34 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So the club should be spaffing this £40m transfer windfall on loans? Seems sustainable. 

I've mentioned 3 very good loans there that would massively increase our chances of promotion to the Premier League.

Most of the Clubs that go up do so by loaning top players from higher up, who they wouldn't be able to afford to sign permanently.

4 months of wage contributions, for a couple of top players, isn't going to spaff away £40m.

Edited 17 hours ago by TheRevAshton

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

41 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

He can play on the LW or as a ST, he's exactly what we need; big, strong, quick and hungry to prove himself... they need to make this one happen!

The ideal end to this window for me looks something like;

LB - Harry Toffolo (Loan)
CM - Lewis O'brien (Loan)
LW - Thelo Aasgaard (Perm)
ST - Jayden Danns (Loan)
ST - Richard Kone (Perm)

Before anyone says it; I fully agree and acknowledge that this is incredibly unlikely, wishful thinking, never gonna happen under these owners etc.

However, this is what a Club in our position should be doing - and what i'd consider to be an ideal bit of business in this window.

What we're actually going to end up with, looks nothing like the above.

I’d be really surprised if just one of those players will be playing for us in February.

[FE123]

West Brom about to sign Al-Hamadi on loan. 
 

That’s a decent pick up for them

[AVE1875]

13 days of the window left with it apparently closing on the 3rd of Feb... 

13 days to get some deals done and we're hearing that one bid has been put in and had various links from the likes of Nixon... 

 

[AJW]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

I don't think any of our current crop can be considered 'investments'. Even those still at a good age for potential resale - basically Carter, Travis, maybe Brittain, are in positions that don't usually attract large bids and even if they could their contract situations are such that come the summer we are going to be in a weak negotiating position anyway.

It's up the top end where the money is to be made as we saw with Armstrong, Diaz, Dack, Szmodics and we sadly know that we are now woefully short in those areas after stripping the cupboard bare and spending nothing replacing them. 

Adam Wharton a slight outlier but an exceptional case based on his age, quality and being English. You'll find one of him once a decade if you are lucky. Could and should have been a game changing sale equipping the club with the resources to build a really strong squad of assets but they won't allow that.

So thanks to Venkys not only have we sold most people of value, failed to reinvest properly but we've also neglected contract renewals. 

It's a ticking time bomb and the only consolation I'm clinging to is that once the assets are all gone and they are back to needing to find £15 million a year from their own reserves this is the final push needed to get rid of them. They've had it relatively easy the last couple of years by wrecking our squad and promotion prospects to pay their bills, that can't and won't carry on much longer. Tick tock.

Which is why a move for Aasgaard makes so much sense if the reported £2.5m fee is true , yes it means it costs Venkys 5m but potentially he could be worth 15-20m after a good season or 2 in the championship 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, TheRevAshton said:

I've mentioned 3 very good loans there that would give us a fantastic shot at promotion to the Premier League.

Most of the Clubs that go up do so by loaning top players from higher up, who they wouldn't be able to afford to sign permanently.

4 months of wage contributions, for a couple of top players, isn't going to spaff away £40m.

It's 4 months of wage contributions + loan fees for players that won't be here next year. That'll be a significant outlay. 

The automatics are locked up and Sunderland and Burnley look very, very good. Rather than chasing a pipe dream of promotion we should be building for the future - both continued success on the field and financial success off it i.e. prospects that we can sell on.

I'd still fancy us to finish 5th or 6th with the right permanent signings - we're never catching the automatic teams - and then it's a lottery in the Playoffs. Only it's a lottery where you're playing with your own players and aren't back at square one in August 2025. 

[TheRevAshton]

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’d be really surprised if just one of those players will be playing for us in February.

Same, unfortunately.

If only our Billionaire owners had a bit of ambition/interest!

[islander200]

38 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Is that Aasgaard actually a LW? Doesn't strike me as one and seems to be more a Cantwell player.

I think Cantwell will be sold in summer so he'll be an ideal replacement.
We'll get out muscled though so, I don't think we stand a chance getting him.

Cantwell will need a buyer.

He was available in the summer for next to nothing and I didn't see teams lining up to buy him.

So far his performances not been worthy of a lot of interest so if he does go in the summer it will be for a similar fee we bought him for or for nothing getting his wage off the books 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Cantwell will need a buyer.

He was available in the summer for next to nothing and I didn't see teams lining up to buy him.

So far his performances not been worthy of a lot of interest so if he does go in the summer it will be for a similar fee we bought him for or for nothing getting his wage off the books 

Nobody scouting him so far will have been sending back glowing reports.

[joey_big_nose]

47 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Is that Aasgaard actually a LW? Doesn't strike me as one and seems to be more a Cantwell player.

I think Cantwell will be sold in summer so he'll be an ideal replacement.
We'll get out muscled though so, I don't think we stand a chance getting him.

On current form no one is buying Cantwell.  To generate any interest he is going to need put together a run of 10 good performances and I hope he does as we really need him to help get results.

The players who will generate interest will be Travis, Tronstad and Brittain.

[BankEnd Rover]

8 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Cantwell will need a buyer.

He was available in the summer for next to nothing and I didn't see teams lining up to buy him.

So far his performances not been worthy of a lot of interest so if he does go in the summer it will be for a similar fee we bought him for or for nothing getting his wage off the books 

He will find somewhere, he's got the ability and even if it's what we paid for him, his wages for us is the biggest killer.

He doesn't strike me as someone who wants to hang around Ewood for very long. We could get Aasgaard on half of his wages probably. 

[Exiled_Rover]

5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Nobody scouting him so far will have been sending back glowing reports.

I suspect those scouting him, if they know football, will simply send back an incomplete report. "He has nobody to pass to in advanced positions".

[BankEnd Rover]

1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said:

On current form no one is buying Cantwell.  To generate any interest he is going to need put together a run of 10 good performances and I hope he does as we really need him to help get results.

The players who will generate interest will be Travis, Tronstad and Brittain.

Irrespective of how his current form is, he's still a good player - He will go abroad I reckon. 

[islander200]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I suspect those scouting him, if they know football, will simply send back an incomplete report. "He has nobody to pass to in advanced positions".

Or he keeps losing possession. Cantwell being poor isn't just down to the players around him .I expected much better 

The players around him didn't miss the easy chance v Hull

[joey_big_nose]

2 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Irrespective of how his current form is, he's still a good player - He will go abroad I reckon. 

I doubt anyone will offer enough to make it worth our while to sell him.