January Transfer window

[BankEnd Rover]

Just looking at CDMs, weren't we linked with Michal Rosiak at one stage last year? 

[davulsukur]

27 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

I actually think Aasgaard and Cantwell being similar types of players could easily benefit the both of them. Class players want others on their wave length. At the same time, it's easy for the opposition to nullify Cantwell. It's not as though they need to worry about Ryan Hedges doing a pirouette past a couple of players. Cantwell needs help badly. 

Pretty sure Cantwell would have no problems operating on the left hand side of the attacking 3. He's played there in the past. He'd have licence to drift centrally when needed as well.

[Bohinen1983]

Neale used to love Roofe and Dacky!! 

Doubt we will spend anything.  But in ideal world:

 

CM: Lewis O'Brien would compliment what we have really well.. 

AML: Poku. 

AMR: Asgaard 

ST: Louie Barry and Kone

I expect an obsure loan or two on deadline day.. If that. Clubs rotten. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bohinen1983]

6 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Pretty sure Cantwell would have no problems operating on the left hand side of the attacking 3. He's played there in the past. He'd have licence to drift centrally when needed as well.

Cantwell is like a slug! I'd love to play against him. Think he's massively over rated.. 

[Savory]

2 hours ago, rob_of_the_rovers said:

Brandon Thomas-Asante

3 goals in 23 apps 😬

[B16Rover]

Cantwell carries the ball (and does so better than most in the division) but he isn't direct with it.  You can put an element of that on what's in front of him, but his goal scoring efforts lead a lot to be desired. 

Aasgard I think suffers a bit from looking a bit like Cantwell, but he's more physical and more direct with the ball - at least in league one.  

 

The goal posts haven't changed for what we need.  A quick (over a sprint) winger.   A striker who can support/overtake Ohashi to allow Gueye to continue being a chaos merchant in 20 minute intervals.  The only addition now is a centre back and maybe a left winger - what's Callum Styles up to?

[EgyptianPete]

30 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

Cantwell is like a slug! I'd love to play against him. Think he's massively over rated.. 

Utter tripe

 

[ABRAM ROVER]

West Brom acting quick to replace Maja and they haven't even had a manager in place!

[MB Rover]

2 minutes ago, ABRAM ROVER said:

West Brom acting quick to replace Maja and they haven't even had a manager in place!

Doesn’t really matter as it’s only a good signing if your manager, DoF and Head of recruitment all agree on it!

[Lucimo]

47 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

No, we need to clear out the mammoth wages of McFadzean, Markanday, Garrett and O'Riordan before we can possibly afford anyone. 

3 down, 1 to go. A signing on the horizon....not that it'll be anyone to get excited about.

[Lancaster Rover]

I've just looked it up the stats in terms of forward actions for Cantwell to run a statistical view against my own visual and personal opinion.

Cantwell is 19th in the league for shot creating actions per 90, virtually every club in the league has a more effective creator at this moment in time. In terms of actions that lead directly to a goal he's 51st with Dolan our highest ranked player at 15th and Gueye at 31.

Hedges and Dolan have the most progressive carries at 41 and 49 respectively with Cantwell 68th.

Progressive passes wise we've got Tronstad and Travis at 31 and 47 Cantwell at 62.

He is our highest ranked non penalty XG and assist XG ranked player at 6.7 over the season, made up of 1.9 non pen XG and 4.8 assist XG.

Edited January 21 by Lancaster Rover

[RevidgeBlue]

56 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

No, we need to clear out the mammoth wages of McFadzean, Markanday, Garrett and O'Riordan before we can possibly afford anyone. 

As always, we're pretty darned efficient and proactive in shipping people out.

Bringing anyone in for a worthwhile fee on  reasonable wages however...........

[RevidgeBlue]

19 minutes ago, EgyptianPete said:

Utter tripe

 

Cantwell certainly is, or at least has been thus far.

[RevidgeBlue]

12 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

He is our highest ranked non penalty XG and assist XG ranked player at 6.7 over the season, made up of 1.9 non pen XG and 4.8 assist XG.

What does that mean, is it decent or below what should  be expected?

[BankEnd Rover]

A report saying we looked at Timoth Fosu-Mensah but turned it down due to injury records.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/free-agent-man-utd-product-30830266

[JHRover]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

As always, we're pretty darned efficient and proactive in shipping people out.

Bringing anyone in for a worthwhile fee on  reasonable wages however...........

Admin errors suddenly a thing of the past when its getting people off the wage bill and money in. Funny that.

[Lancaster Rover]

26 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What does that mean, is it decent or below what should  be expected?

Josh Maja is 12.7, Finn Azzaz 13.3, Josh Windass 9, in terms of being a creative player of the so called quality of Cantwell it's not great IMO. Breaks down at he's expected to score 2 goals and create 5 over the course of the season. 

As a 'direct' comparison - Dack was 23.5 before his ACL and in the 20 games he played when he returned it was up at 8.4, which when you consider how many of them were him working his way back it says a lot IMO.

For comparison against other 'talismanic players' (excluding SS as he was a freak) and so called crap players, in 22-23 BBD was 15.1, the season before that it was 19, with Rothwell and Gallagher both with scores of 10, in that season Josh Bowler was on 11. Armstrong 27, BBD 15, Rothwell on 9 again and Gallagher on 8 in the season prior to that.

So all in all I think it's a really poor return for a player of his supposed quality especially when compared with others, some of which were largely considered to be crap.

Edited January 21 by Lancaster Rover

[booth]

28 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

A report saying we looked at Timoth Fosu-Mensah but turned it down due to injury records.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/free-agent-man-utd-product-30830266

Yet we signed Fleck!

[TheRevAshton]

30 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Admin errors suddenly a thing of the past when its getting people off the wage bill and money in. Funny that.

Oh yeah, we are literally the best in the business at selling players.

We could have Todd Cantwell land in America by tonight if a team was after him, he'd even have time to swing by France for a Coffee on his way over (at his own expense of course).

Yet, when it comes to us signing a free-agent from a Club nearby, who's happy to sign for £7k a week and a tube of Pringles, it takes absolutely yonks... then collapses.

Edited January 21 by TheRevAshton

[aletheia]

15 hours ago, JBiz said:

That either needs huge crowds or regular sales and modest investment.

We have had that (the latter part of the sentence obviously) for several years. How does that get rid?

Edited January 21 by aletheia

[aletheia]

14 hours ago, JBiz said:

A Club that doesn’t lose money every season doesn’t need absent billionaires.

The whole of that post is full of contradictions. So you suggesting that if we were to wash our face, the owners are more likely to go?

[davulsukur]

36 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

A report saying we looked at Timoth Fosu-Mensah but turned it down due to injury records.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/free-agent-man-utd-product-30830266

John Fleck just hobbled in on 1 leg no problems though 🤷‍♂️

[RevidgeBlue]

16 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

Josh Maja is 12.7, Finn Azzaz 13.3, Josh Windass 9, in terms of being a creative player of the so called quality of Cantwell it's not great IMO. Breaks down at he's expected to score 2 goals and create 5 over the course of the season. 

As a 'direct' comparison - Dack was 23.5 before his ACL and in the 20 games he played when he returned it was up at 8.4, which when you consider how many of them were him working his way back it says a lot IMO.

For comparison against other 'talismanic players' (excluding SS as he was a freak) and so called crap players, in 22-23 BBD was 15.1, the season before that it was 19, with Rothwell and Gallagher both with scores of 10, in that season Josh Bowler was on 11. Armstrong 27, BBD 15, Rothwell on 9 again and Gallagher on 8 in the season prior to that.

So all in all I think it's a really poor return for a player of his supposed quality especially when compared with others, some of which were largely considered to be crap.

Thanks. Means nothing to me really  but from what you say, tends to confirm the eye test in that he's been crap.

Mind you you don't really need complicated and obscure stats to confirm it when his only goal has been a penalty and I'm guessing his direct assist count is negligible.

[Lancaster Rover]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Thanks. Means nothing to me really  but from what you say, tends to confirm the eye test in that he's been crap.

Mind you you don't really need complicated and obscure stats to confirm it when his only goal has been a penalty and I'm guessing his direct assist count is negligible.

Absolutely, my point was more disproving this idea that he's effective and it's the fault of what's in front of him rather than him. I think he's currently on exactly the same number of goals and direct assists as Brittain

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, aletheia said:

The whole of that post is full of contradictions. So you suggesting that if we were to wash our face, the owners are more likely to go?

The suggestion from Nixon (I know) is that they would only consider going once they'd returned us from whence we came I.e. The Premier League.

Not easy to do when you're selling your best players and spending nothing on replacements.