January Transfer window

[BankEnd Rover]

10 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Kargbo close to signing! Another underwhelming signing. Bargain basement too!

I've had it from a decent enough source that nothing is close yet....We're pissing around...Again!!!! 
 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:13 by BankEnd Rover

[MarkBRFC]

Would Karbo have to take one of the ESC slots or is Serie B a sufficient enough level?

[Rogerb]

10 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

I think he's been helped by having a much more solid back 4 in front of him as well.

A back four that is blocking shots so Pears doesn't have to try to make a save as opposed to virtually every shot getting through 

[bluebruce]

13 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Would Karbo have to take one of the ESC slots or is Serie B a sufficient enough level?

Nah he only gets 7 points. I don't think any second tiers are capable of putting the points together for it. Quite a few top flights aren't, without sufficient points from European competition etc.

Edited yesterday at 11:26 by bluebruce

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

23 minutes ago, Rogerb said:

A back four that is blocking shots so Pears doesn't have to try to make a save as opposed to virtually every shot getting through 

Back four plus Travis, and especially Tronstad. The number of shots Pears, and Toth , have had to face from outside the box is remarkably low.

[Exiled_Rover]

57 minutes ago, Madon said:

Raya also through the ball into the back of the net for us on many occasions, he's now arguably the best GK in world football. 

(I'm not saying Pears will ever get close to this for the record!)

Who's making that argument, cos he's categorically not!

[TheRevAshton]

Personally, I think playoffs are just well out of sight now.

I'd guess that 74 points does it in this particular season, we'd need 32 points from our remaining 17 games to reach that tally.

That's 1.88 points per game on average, 10 wins and 2 draws required.

The teams around us have all strengthened, some significantly - whilst we've actually weakened. Realistically, it's just not happening.

Absolute sickener after all the hard work from Eustace and the lads.

It's genuinely criminal that they haven't backed the gaffer, he worked an actual miracle getting us to where we was... they must forget that we almost got relegated last season, and lost a 33 goal attacker (Szmodics) without adequately replacing him.

Edited yesterday at 11:59 by TheRevAshton

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, TheRevAshton said:

Personally, I think playoffs are just well out of sight now.

I'd guess that 74 points does it in this particular season, we'd need 32 points from our remaining 17 games to reach that tally.

That's 1.88 points per game on average, 10 wins and 2 draws required.

The teams around us have all strengthened, some significantly - whilst we've actually weakened. Realistically, it's just not happening.

Absolute sickener after all the hard work from Eustace and the lads.

It's genuinely criminal that they haven't backed the gaffer, he's worked an actual miracle getting us to where we was... they must forget that we almost got relegated last season, and lost a 33 goal attacker (Szmodics) without adequately replacing him.

Pears is way down the list  of Rovers goalkeepers in my time. We had much better keepers than him back when we were in the old third division.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

6 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Personally, I think playoffs are just well out of sight now.

I'd guess that 74 points does it in this particular season, we'd need 32 points from our remaining 17 games to reach that tally.

That's 1.88 points per game on average, 10 wins and 2 draws required.

The teams around us have all strengthened, some significantly - whilst we've actually weakened. Realistically, it's just not happening.

Absolute sickener after all the hard work from Eustace and the lads.

It's genuinely criminal that they haven't backed the gaffer, he worked an actual miracle getting us to where we was... they must forget that we almost got relegated last season, and lost a 33 goal attacker (Szmodics) without adequately replacing him.

We blew it losing all those “ winnable “ game in the lost month. We lost them because the powers that be didn’t get their finger out to support the manager.

[Atko's Engine]

7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

We blew it losing all those “ winnable “ game in the lost month. We lost them because the powers that be didn’t get their finger out to support the manager.

Good Freudian slip there.

[onlyonejackwalker]

7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

We blew it losing all those “ winnable “ game in the lost month. We lost them because the powers that be didn’t get their finger out to support the manager.

Mmmmm. We also lost to Hull, Stoke, Plymouth, Coventry, Millwall, Watford etc in very winnable games long before January.

Our failure to replace Szmodics adequately has been the major problem all season.

[lraC]

1 minute ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Mmmmm. We also lost to Hull, Stoke, Plymouth, Coventry, Millwall, Watford etc in very winnable games long before January.

Our failure to replace Szmodics adequately has been the major problem all season.

Like every other club, we will lose some games, not matter what, but it feels like the lack of action has cost us at least 9 points this month and that would have at least kept us in with a very good chance, rather that the doom and gloom now around, after not only the damaging defeats, but the failure to make, even one decent signing.

[rovers11]

I think Kargbo would have been a decent signing if he had signed a couple of proven attacking players to complement him. 

Taking gambles from abroad is something we do need to do, but we have to balance that up with proven quality too. 

[ben_the_beast]

3 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Mmmmm. We also lost to Hull, Stoke, Plymouth, Coventry, Millwall, Watford etc in very winnable games long before January.

Our failure to replace Szmodics adequately has been the major problem all season.

Imagine if we still had Szmodics. There should have been no reason to sell unless an exceptional bid came in, after the Wharton sale in January. 

We did not sell him for exceptional money. Once again, it was just to keep the lights on because Venkys don't want a penny of their money going into the club if it can be avoided. 

Sure he'd have been a bit disgruntled, but another £5m ontop of what we got wasn't unreasonable. The price we sold him for was only appropriate for a 'selling club'. 

[martonrover]

8 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Mmmmm. We also lost to Hull, Stoke, Plymouth, Coventry, Millwall, Watford etc in very winnable games long before January.

Our failure to replace Szmodics adequately has been the major problem all season.

Millwall and Hull were towards the end of December, ie at the beginning of the slump.

Watford are also near the top end, so not sure that can be described as “very winnable”.

It’s not so much about who you lose to , but whether those defeats are isolated or not.

[chaddyrovers]

12 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Maybe I misunderstood then - what did you mean by this? Were you saying that's the budget you believe we should have, but you know we don't? Are you upset with the club about this? I know I am.

You have completely misunderstood 

The £5m budget point was what I wanted us to spend NOT what is available. 

Lets wait for Tuesday 4th of February to see what we actually do.   

2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I would happily hire a limo and drive him there myself.

Did you not watch him throw two into the back of his own net on Saturday?

The second goal was a deflection of Batth How is that Pears's fault? 

isn't Pears the second best in terms of percentage of saved this season? 

[Ghost7]

3 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

Imagine if we still had Szmodics. There should have been no reason to sell unless an exceptional bid came in, after the Wharton sale in January. 

We did not sell him for exceptional money. Once again, it was just to keep the lights on because Venkys don't want a penny of their money going into the club if it can be avoided. 

Sure he'd have been a bit disgruntled, but another £5m ontop of what we got wasn't unreasonable. The price we sold him for was only appropriate for a 'selling club'. 

Yep... it was wholesale and again not reinvested in the team in any way.

[Ghost7]

The Sam Gallagher, Ennis, Telalovic and Wahlstedt fees cover most of our transfer business in the past 12 months.

Let that sink in.

[RoversClitheroe]

1 minute ago, Ghost7 said:

The Sam Gallagher, Ennis, Telalovic and Wahlstedt fees cover most of our transfer business in the past 12 months.

Let that sink in.

York City of the National League have spent more than us this January.

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Yous re missing the point it’s not about agreeing or disagreeing - if you think we haven’t failed in this window already that’s on you played 4 games (1 was a refix they wouldn’t have been prepared for) 3/12 points with a depleted squad 

no we haven't failed this window at all. 

lets await and see who we bring in. 8 days to go

5 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

ACD certainly hasn’t been breathtaking but he still adds more than most other players in that position that we have and as pointed out has done more than hedges

not for me. 

5 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

didnt say the fella was a novice I said Eustace wanted experience something you have on numerous times relayed in this forum - and to add to this the main part was we aren’t competing with Leeds Luton etc a point you conveniently dismissed

Yes Eustace did, but if we can't bring those experience players Eustace wanted then we can still bring in quality players.. 

Eustace's comments at the weekend mentioned quality players signings 

5 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

and we do know why there’s no money being provided the answers are there for all to see - complete lack of ambition or care from the club it isn’t a coincidence that each of the last 3 seasons or so when we have been in a really good position come Jan everything just stops

Lets see what we do in the transfer market and lets the next 8 days play out. 

 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

no we haven't failed this window at all. 

lets await and see who we bring in. 8 days to go

not for me. 

Yes Eustace did, but if we can't bring those experience players Eustace wanted then we can still bring in quality players.. 

Eustace's comments at the weekend mentioned quality players signings 

Lets see what we do in the transfer market and lets the next 8 days play out. 

 

Do you not think it was important to strengthen earlier? We have lost 3 winnable games on the bounce and our squad is falling apart. We also have the Preston game likely with no signings and then any deadline day deals will probably miss QPR. You cant just essentialy forfeit chunks of games and it has made our play off push at best unlikely even if we do strengthen.

[arbitro]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

no we haven't failed this window at all. 

lets await and see who we bring in. 8 days to go

not for me. 

Yes Eustace did, but if we can't bring those experience players Eustace wanted then we can still bring in quality players.. 

Eustace's comments at the weekend mentioned quality players signings 

Lets see what we do in the transfer market and lets the next 8 days play out. 

 

Let's assume we sign three players between now and the end of the window. Had we signed them before the Burnley game on January 4th do you think we might have more points than we do now? I think I know your answer but I'm asking anyway. In my view if we had added some quality to the squad and had them for the five league games we would have had more points. And from that perspective the window has been a failure.

[Penwortham Blue]

50 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Pears is way down the list  of Rovers goalkeepers in my time. We had much better keepers than him back when we were in the old third division.

Sir Roger, Jim Arnold, Terry Gennoe, all a class apart from a lot of the modern keepers.

[Rover1984]

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Do you not think it was important to strengthen earlier? We have lost 3 winnable games on the bounce and our squad is falling apart. We also have the Preston game likely with no signings and then any deadline day deals will probably miss QPR. You cant just essentialy forfeit chunks of games and it has made our play off push at best unlikely even if we do strengthen.

Agree, We could have bridged a gap in the playoffs if we had acted sooner. Results went our way as well. I can’t believe some would be happy if 2-3 players come in. Damage has already been done, too slow to react and the latest bunch of results they should be accountable for

[BigHoz]

Windows a massive failure so far 😂 the clubs left the players and managers out to dry for nearly 4 weeks when reinforcements were needed. We’ve now been bunched up to all the mid table teams when the club could have been pro active at the beginning and we could have easily been +12 points up. 40million in sales and we’re allegedly fighting over 200k for bloody karbo, cargo whatever his name is. People must be on wind up.