ben_the_beast Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: "We tried to get a striker in but the January window is very difficult. "We did all we could." To be honest this is probably the main reason we're looking at Kargbo. He's both the quick winger and striker rolled into one. Efficiency (cheap). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jimmy612 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Bohinen1983 said: Surely it was worth keeping hold of Semir to compliment what we have... He always looked very tidy, composed and linked up play well quite well. I guess I am answering own question... We have an obsession with forwards that press.. No us, but running stats seem to dominate the game at the moment... What about two quick wingers to stretch the full backs and a decent attacking cm to support the big man with people breaking into the box.. I think these problems are well document and until resolved most strikers in the mould of Semir will struggle.. I don't think Lewandoski would get double figures in this side.. I actually made a bit of a case for Telalovic last June (post below). I said at the time that I felt like I'd seen flashes of a useful player there in his interchanges and general play, but his confidence looked shot to bits, and he missed one or two great opportunities. The Stoke game just after Eustace's arrival was probably his poorest cameo when we were serverley under the cosh and he gave the all away 2 or 3 times... after that he rarely appeared again - Eustace probably didn't trust him. It'll be interesting to see how his career progresses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Bohinen1983 said: Surely it was worth keeping hold of Semir to compliment what we have... He always looked very tidy, composed and linked up play well quite well. I guess I am answering own question... Sorry, don't understand this. He never looked the part, he was cheap, and he looked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog of the rovers Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Jimmy612 said: I actually made a bit of a case for Telalovic last June (post below). I said at the time that I felt like I'd seen flashes of a useful player there in his interchanges and general play, but his confidence looked shot to bits, and he missed one or two great opportunities. The Stoke game just after Eustace's arrival was probably his poorest cameo when we were serverley under the cosh and he gave the all away 2 or 3 times... after that he rarely appeared again - Eustace probably didn't trust him. It'll be interesting to see how his career progresses. Opinions are opinions and you're entitled to your own. Personally from my point of view Telalovic looked out of his depth in almost every minute of his Rovers career. I was willing him to do well, like everyone else, but he didn't look up to it. Scoring four goals in the German second tier doesn't change that opinion. Like everyone else I'd love to see a slew of new players coming through the door, but they have to be the right ones and be starters or pushing for starting positions when everyone is back fit and available. Is Kargbo going to start in our best XI? Who knows, thats what I hope are the questions being asked. Unfortunately the January window is usually a case of who blinks first (hence why you see such chaos in the last few days) see the likes of Marcus Rashford or Evan Ferguson, both have been destined to leave their clubs since October/November yet both remain in situ. I'd love us to go back in for Poku (even if he's been out injured) and would have been delighted to bring in Louie Barry. But lets face it, its going to be a punt from the European leagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonrover Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Sorry, don't understand this. He never looked the part, he was cheap, and he looked it. When we played Cambridge in the Cup, Telalovic was the worst player on the pitch. All of a sudden, because we are struggling, “We should’ve kept him”. If he’s settled well at his new club, back in his homeland, good luck to the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyB Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 21 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: I actually made a bit of a case for Telalovic last June (post below). I said at the time that I felt like I'd seen flashes of a useful player there in his interchanges and general play, but his confidence looked shot to bits, and he missed one or two great opportunities. The Stoke game just after Eustace's arrival was probably his poorest cameo when we were serverley under the cosh and he gave the all away 2 or 3 times... after that he rarely appeared again - Eustace probably didn't trust him. It'll be interesting to see how his career progresses. I too didn’t think he was that bad - he got himself into decent positions, but just never managed to find the finish. I don’t think he ever really got a proper chance though - it’s very difficult to find form when you’re only getting the odd 5 minutes here and there, or thrown into the lineup for a cup game as a one-off. I still maintain that had he played as many minutes as Gallagher did over the season he would have at least matched his goal return 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost7 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, roversinmyblood said: Starving the team of fresh players to get them at a cheaper price later in the window is a nonsense strategy. Our players are out on their feet and more than likely playing whilst carrying injuries. No wonder mistakes are being made leading to us dropping valuable points. If we miss out on the playoffs by a point or goal difference, like we did two years ago, the £200k or so saved on a player will seem very foolish. If we could pay £1M to get in the playoffs at that point we probably would. Obviously that wouldn’t be possible, but in principle we would, so why not pay the premium to get players in at the start of the window so that our momentum is continued and we don’t drop extremely valuable points. The hierarchy at Rovers are morons without any common sense. In my humble opinion they are merely pretending to care whilst doing and spending the absolute minimum in order to keep the fans from revolting. Even if, by some amazing chance, they spend a lot of money ( by Rovers standards) on a player/players it will still be poor management because we have lost too many points waiting to get them in. Venkies and Rovers management want to do everything on the cheap, they have no passion for Rovers at all, it is just a job to them, which is totally unacceptable. We need people in charge who share the same passion as us fans. Sadly this will never happen whilst Venkies are in charge. Rant over. Great post. You also lose the player pulling power of being a team "heading for promotion". Not once have we capitalised on that under Venky's or Waggott. We're a tougher sell now. It's criminal the amount of times this has happened but the reality is we learned everything we needed to know about the owners the first time. We've been in better positions than this, with the same outcome - Steve should step down on Feb 4th and if he had anything about him he would... so no chance! 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohinen1983 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 7 minutes ago, martonrover said: When we played Cambridge in the Cup, Telalovic was the worst player on the pitch. All of a sudden, because we are struggling, “We should’ve kept him”. If he’s settled well at his new club, back in his homeland, good luck to the lad. Thats not the case at all though.. I liked him and thought he had potential when we had him. I've taken a screenshot for you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonrover Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said: Thats not the case at all though.. I liked him and thought he had potential when we had him. I've taken a screenshot for you.. I beg to differ, but respect your opinion. Anyway, are we signing anyone today? 😉☹️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, martonrover said: I beg to differ, but respect your opinion. Anyway, are we signing anyone today? 😉☹️ No today, that would be stupid. We need to wait until the last minute at 10.59pm next Monday, they are almost paying us at that point to take them off them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled_Rover Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Lancaster Rover said: The recent purchases of unknown names from overseas that have been suggested have in the main been very poor. Telelovic and Wahlstedt a disaster, Ohashi and Gueye the jury is very much out, Toth hasn't played enough to form a proper opinion. Tronstad being the only success, however playing in the Eridvisie for Vitesse he's played at the highest level of all our European imports so you'd expect him to do relatively well. Ohashi and Gueye are both much better than Gallagher, Ennis and co. I wouldn't say the jury is out on them - they're competent Championship CFs. Toth bizarrely hasn't been given a chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Pete O'Rourke @SportsPeteO Luton Town are poised to sign Wigan Athletic star Thelo Aasgaard in a deal in excess of £3m. Player is now set for talks and medical with the Championship strugglers. #LTFC #wafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Exiled_Rover Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, islander200 said: No way would Jed Wallace be cheaper It might be a similar fee if west brom wanted him away but Wallace will be on much more money. 100% I'd be signing Wallace if given the choice. Wallace won't be leaving now,Mowbray brought him back into the team and he was captain at the weekend He's 30, about to turn 31. We need youth (and pace) not experienced players on the downside of their career. We have enough of those in the squad now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browjd Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 What the hell are we doing?! Where are the recruitment team??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: You can’t keep just treading water. Other teams aren’t. You either go up or you go down. But that's what we have been doing since we were promoted. It seems to suit them lot fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blow-in Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I think its highly unlikely that we squeek into the Playoff but if it happened and we went up. I believe we would spend 5-10 million on players, tie up a few contracts. Get relegated with a record or close to record low points tally, lose any players who look like they can sort of cut it in the PL, and we then see the parachute payments disappear into thin air. I am not sure I could handle that, I am starting to think I'd rather continue as nearly men, at least now we are an massive albatros on our owners. The toughts of them recouping their investment with share dividends would probably kill me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 35 minutes ago, rog of the rovers said: Opinions are opinions and you're entitled to your own. Personally from my point of view Telalovic looked out of his depth in almost every minute of his Rovers career. I was willing him to do well, like everyone else, but he didn't look up to it. Scoring four goals in the German second tier doesn't change that opinion. Like everyone else I'd love to see a slew of new players coming through the door, but they have to be the right ones and be starters or pushing for starting positions when everyone is back fit and available. Is Kargbo going to start in our best XI? Who knows, thats what I hope are the questions being asked. Unfortunately the January window is usually a case of who blinks first (hence why you see such chaos in the last few days) see the likes of Marcus Rashford or Evan Ferguson, both have been destined to leave their clubs since October/November yet both remain in situ. I'd love us to go back in for Poku (even if he's been out injured) and would have been delighted to bring in Louie Barry. But lets face it, its going to be a punt from the European leagues I'd start Kargbo on the left from the off. In at the deep end, welcome to the championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said: He's 30, about to turn 31. We need youth (and pace) not experienced players on the downside of their career. We have enough of those in the squad now. Wallace would be a better bet of getting us into the top 6 this season.End of Wallace is a top player at this level amd chalk n cheese if comparing him to say Hedges.Him or Karbgo there isn't a choice to make 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Blow-in said: I think its highly unlikely that we squeek into the Playoff but if it happened and we went up. I believe we would spend 5-10 million on players, tie up a few contracts. Get relegated with a record or close to record low points tally, lose any players who look like they can sort of cut it in the PL, and we then see the parachute payments disappear into thin air. I am not sure I could handle that, I am starting to think I'd rather continue as nearly men, at least now we are an massive albatros on our owners. The toughts of them recouping their investment with share dividends would probably kill me. If we did tie up a few contracts depending on who, atleast it's a basis to go forward and liken our chances of staying up for future seasons so I'd take that move depending on who Edited January 28 by ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnradfordsubbuteo2 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 You've got to laugh in a gallows fashion. 300 pages of sound and fury signifying nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, Browjd said: What the hell are we doing?! Where are the recruitment team??? All round at Waggots playing Kerplunk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Rover Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said: Ohashi and Gueye are both much better than Gallagher, Ennis and co. I wouldn't say the jury is out on them - they're competent Championship CFs. Toth bizarrely hasn't been given a chance. When you look at the stats of either in terms of contributions/goals then I'd disagree. Whilst Gallagher by no means set the world on fire his stats for goal contributions and goals were in the top 20 in the league year on year. There is admittedly some context to that and we could all see things with our own eyes but stats wise he does well. I wouldn't say Gueye or Ohashi are classed as competent championship CF's, if they get in double figures this year maybe but we're a long way from that in my opinion. Ohashi's current non penalty xG and xAG is 0.26 and Gueye's is .38, league average is .46. Gallagher had a NP xG and xAG for 10.8, 9.6, 8.6, 10.5 and 7.1 whilst at Rovers Gueye is 5.2 (skewed by assists), Ohashi 4.3. Not trying to say Gallagher is good, but more that as he's considered incompetent, Ohashi and Gueyes stats are inferior so must also currently be classed as incompetent 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 You know what wouldn't surprise me. If for some nuts reason we get playoffs. In my opinion they'd get rid of Eustace. Again in my opinion no chance they want promotion. January window proves this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankEnd Rover Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, islander200 said: Wallace would be a better bet of getting us into the top 6 this season.End of Wallace is a top player at this level amd chalk n cheese if comparing him to say Hedges.Him or Karbgo there isn't a choice to make Wallace "was " a top player at this level. 90% of WBA fans, when we were linked, couldn't wait to get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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