January Transfer window

[roverandout]

Another quality player we've missed out on. Just fuck off venkys Waggott suhail

[martonrover]

11 minutes ago, Browjd said:

What the hell are we doing?! Where are the recruitment team???

Still trying to work out which is their arse and which is their elbow.

Park was the one who knew what he was doing.

[rovers11]

12 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

 

 

He's exactly the type of signing we should be making. Young, re-sale value, lowish wages, and bags of talent. Also based in the North West.

Thank you Venkys for rendering us unable to compete financially in the second tier of English football. 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

When you look at the stats of either in terms of contributions/goals then I'd disagree. Whilst Gallagher by no means set the world on fire his stats for goal contributions and goals were in the top 20 in the league year on year. There is admittedly some context to that and we could all see things with our own eyes but stats wise he does well.

I wouldn't say Gueye or Ohashi are classed as competent championship CF's, if they get in double figures this year maybe but we're a long way from that in my opinion.

 

Ohashi's current non penalty xG and xAG is 0.26 and Gueye's is .38, league average is .46. 

Gallagher had a NP xG and xAG for 10.8, 9.6, 8.6, 10.5 and 7.1 whilst at Rovers Gueye is 5.2 (skewed by assists), Ohashi 4.3.

Not trying to say Gallagher is good, but more that as he's considered incompetent, Ohashi and Gueyes stats are inferior so must also currently be classed as incompetent 

 

Lies, damn lies and statistics. 

xG remains a very flawed stat and we all know they get very, very little service.

[islander200]

4 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Wallace "was " a top player at this level. 90% of WBA fans, when we were linked, couldn't wait to get rid. 

I'm unconcerned about West Brom fans opinions he is competing for a place with better players than we have  Fellows and Mikey Johnstone(who hasn't even started for them that much)to name 2 they would walk into our 11 as would Wallace 

Be honest how much have you seen of Kargbo?

Who do you honestly believe Eustace would want out of the 2?

[RevidgeBlue]

21 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Toth bizarrely hasn't been given a chance. 

It's not bizarre at all as Pears has been very good this season.

[smiller14]

All of our recent activity (and inactivity) fully undermine our claims that we'd be a 'trading' club. We've brought in north of £40m, we have a chance (thanks to selling our 30 goal stalwart and our generational midfielder) to really reaffirm these claims and invest and we've done feck all. We've signed a loanee and an old plodder.

If they were serious we'd be spending a few quid on players who can slot into the team but also have resale opportunity. If they wanted to progress short term and abandon the trading angle they could have signed some more established players of ability. They've done neither.

Talks of FFP, attendances and the other excuses don't wash. We have been given this wonderful opportunity to move beyond our current malaise and appear to have blown it. 
 

If the window ends in the same vain, someone needs to hold the powers that be to account. Gestede - what happened to your promises of better communication and why hasn't the manager been helped? What is the truth behind the court cases and why does the evidence contradict the statements? Do they feel Eustace has been suitably supported? What has happened to the £40m and what would have happened funding wise had we not stumbled upon said goldmine? Do they feel a season ticket represents value for money given the inevitability of their inaction undermining our manager and squad in the second half of the season? 

[RevidgeBlue]

12 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

When you look at the stats of either in terms of contributions/goals then I'd disagree. Whilst Gallagher by no means set the world on fire his stats for goal contributions and goals were in the top 20 in the league year on year. There is admittedly some context to that and we could all see things with our own eyes but stats wise he does well.

I wouldn't say Gueye or Ohashi are classed as competent championship CF's, if they get in double figures this year maybe but we're a long way from that in my opinion.

 

Ohashi's current non penalty xG and xAG is 0.26 and Gueye's is .38, league average is .46. 

Gallagher had a NP xG and xAG for 10.8, 9.6, 8.6, 10.5 and 7.1 whilst at Rovers Gueye is 5.2 (skewed by assists), Ohashi 4.3.

Not trying to say Gallagher is good, but more that as he's considered incompetent, Ohashi and Gueyes stats are inferior so must also currently be classed as incompetent 

 

You know what they say - there's lies damn lies and statistics.

There's your proof.

[smiller14]

10 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Lies, damn lies and statistics. 

xG remains a very flawed stat and we all know they get very, very little service.

It is a flawed stat but is interesting. One thing about Gally is he didn't miss many chances - he just never ever got himself in a position to score them. How many times did a good cross come in and he'd be hiding behind a centre half? Or wouldn't read a rebound?

[BankEnd Rover]

15 minutes ago, islander200 said:

I'm unconcerned about West Brom fans opinions he is competing for a place with better players than we have  Fellows and Mikey Johnstone(who hasn't even started for them that much)to name 2 they would walk into our 11 as would Wallace 

Be honest how much have you seen of Kargbo?

Who do you honestly believe Eustace would want out of the 2?

Kargbo has pace, Wallace does not. Kargbo is young (er) Wallace is not - That is my reason as to why i'd choose Kargbo over Wallace.

If we are looking at a winger, he HAS to have some kind of energy and pace about him. Wallace's 'legs have gone' (Like foreshaw)

Not sure who Eustace would pick, he does like his experience but we have plenty of that now...We need energy!

Edited January 28 by BankEnd Rover

[Ricky]

10 minutes ago, islander200 said:

I'm unconcerned about West Brom fans opinions he is competing for a place with better players than we have  Fellows and Mikey Johnstone(who hasn't even started for them that much)to name 2 they would walk into our 11 as would Wallace 

Be honest how much have you seen of Kargbo?

Who do you honestly believe Eustace would want out of the 2?

I’d be asking about a loan for Johnstone 

[smiller14]

2 minutes ago, Ricky said:

I’d be asking about a loan for Johnstone 

No chance they'd loan a player with 25 appearances this year to a potential play off rival sadly

[KentExile]

15 minutes ago, islander200 said:

I'm unconcerned about West Brom fans opinions he is competing for a place with better players than we have  Fellows and Mikey Johnstone(who hasn't even started for them that much)to name 2 they would walk into our 11 as would Wallace 

Be honest how much have you seen of Kargbo?

Who do you honestly believe Eustace would want out of the 2?

 

4 minutes ago, Ricky said:

I’d be asking about a loan for Johnstone 

He has started 15 out of 25 for them including 10 of the the past 11 games

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mikey-johnston/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/297257/wettbewerb/GB2/saison/2024

Edited January 28 by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, Ricky said:

I struggle with the ‘judge at the end of the window’ logic expressed by Chaddy and…. Well just Chaddy really. We’ve wasted too many games in January where we’ve had to stretch a weakened squad to breaking point. If we were a normal team with a decent squad then arguably doing business early is less of an issue. When you’ve lost players to injury and recall then the priorities need to change and the executive team at the club need to be able to react quickly.

thats the main place where we fall down. I’d argue that all of our failed transfers end up coming down to that one point. We’re too slow to react and end up having to rush things through at the end while wading through the mud that is the communication back and forth to the owners. 

It’s not going to get any better any time soon. We know the owners only have interest in keeping the lights on. Nothing they have done in recent years points to anything else.

We have to agree to disagree on your main point whilst I respect your post above and opinion, I know we want quality signings in this winger. The window is hotting up and players are moving. Not seen any links to players in for us. 

Rudy and Eustace should know their budget for the window and Rudy should be allow to authorise signings within that budget. 

If Luton are buying another striker are one of their strikers available to sign. I would take Morris in a heartbeat and Woodrow would be good. 

I will admitted that I thought we would have sign one attacking player by now. We seem to be messing around over small money difference for Kargbo. So do Rovers hierarchy(above Gestede and Eustace level) really want a playoff place or not? Massive doubts there for me.

I would like to one signing at least by Thursday please Rovers. 

25 minutes ago, Craigman said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pete O'Rourke

 

@SportsPeteO

Luton Town are poised to sign Wigan Athletic star Thelo Aasgaard in a deal in excess of £3m. Player is now set for talks and medical with the Championship strugglers. #LTFC #wafc

 

 

 

I'm starting to wonder if we should have signed him instead of Cantwell, would we be better off? Massive debate point and question 

[islander200]

24 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Kargbo has pace, Wallace does not. Kargbo is young, Wallace is not - That is my reason as to why i'd choose Kargbo over Wallace.

If we are looking at a winger, he HAS to have some kind of energy and pace about him. Wallace's 'legs have gone' (Like foreshaw)

Not sure who Eustace would pick, he does like his experience but we have plenty of that now...We need energy!

Loads of players have more pace than Wallace loads of younger players there aswell

The way I look at it is this Kargbo's stats at a lower level than championship imo are not impressive. Our interest has been in the media since summer, he is available for a low fee.Where is the other interest?Why does it seem we have free reign to get him?

If Wallace was available for transfer tomorrow we would have competition and he would get in our side immediately. Pointless talking about it anyway as Mowbray will play him and he will stay at west brom. 

And we will sign Kargbo and the manager will prefer Hedges or others and Kargbo will be seen off the bench 

Eustace said he wanted 2 or 3 brought in and names...he won't be referring to Kargbo 

Edited January 28 by islander200

[Mattyblue]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

So do Rovers hierarchy(above Gestede and Eustace level) really want a playoff place or not?

 

No, they couldn't care less.

[KentExile]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

I'm starting to wonder if we should have signed him instead of Cantwell, would we be better off? Massive debate point and question 

You are discounting that we have probably spent less than £3M in total on all incoming transfers this season,  No chance of them shelling out that much on one player

[BigHoz]

Re the kargbo or Wallace debate, sign them both. Are wingers are shite. 

[Bohinen1983]

53 minutes ago, martonrover said:

I beg to differ, but respect your opinion.

Anyway, are we signing anyone today? 😉☹️

Good man! No, don't be daft! We need a Venkys to sod off.  Sooner they leave the better!

[BankEnd Rover]

Just looking on Coventrys forum...Alot of their fans saying that we've gone in for an improved bid on Assante. Explains why they are going for grimes as they needed to sell before buying.

(If you type in Blackburn on the search bar you can see all the posts)

 

 

Edited January 28 by BankEnd Rover

[JHRover]

I think when people see Luton Town and Plymouth Argyle, both fighting to survive in this division and certainly not what would be described as big or affluent clubs in this league, comfortably outspending and making more effort than us, it might make one or two realise what depths these vile owners are dragging us to. 

Then again maybe not. 'Punching above our weight' in the top 10 of the Championship I keep on reading.

[JHRover]

1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Just looking on Coventrys forum...Alot of their fans saying that we've gone in for an improved bid on Assante. Explains why they are going for grimes as they needed to sell before buying.

 

 

They're pretty daft if they are lining up incomings based on potential money by selling a player to us. They'd be wise to look at the last couple of January windows and learn a lesson - even if we agree to do something we backtrack and it breaks down.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

57 minutes ago, Craigman said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pete O'Rourke

 

@SportsPeteO

Luton Town are poised to sign Wigan Athletic star Thelo Aasgaard in a deal in excess of £3m. Player is now set for talks and medical with the Championship strugglers. #LTFC #wafc

 

 

 

We’ll regret missing out on this lad.

[Lancaster Rover]

39 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Lies, damn lies and statistics. 

xG remains a very flawed stat and we all know they get very, very little service.

The combo of Xg and xAg is a useful stat, if you also look it in tandem with shot contributions and  progression stats they read the same re comparisons of Gallagher and Ohashi and Gueye.

Whilst I agree there are things you can see with your eyes, that stats can’t disprove.  Sats provide very useful context to certain players and situations. Whilst Gallagher was a disappointment, it was largely because he has the tools to do much more. That said his contributions to goals and progression up the pitch is massively underrated on here. 

[roversfan99]

No one show neophox the Aasgaard news.