January Transfer window

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Lower wage quality players? 👀 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We know that Gestede as head of football operations so of course he would be leading the search and working with Adam Owen to bring in players even if we had a chief Scout(who wouldn't be involved transfer negotiations)

Eustace wants championship experience signings but unless we spent the players on getting them and pay higher wages for players like Wallace, Bamford and Schlupp, we can't pay those wages on our budget. So we have be smarter and clever in our transfers and still bring in experience championship like we did with Hyam or Brittain or Batth or Weimann but also look for lower wage quality players like Ohashi. 

Eustace has been involve in the final choice of who we sign but also he is having to compromise on just looking at championship players and look further field and into the European leagues. 

 

 

That’s a fair u turn chaddy 2/3 weeks ago you were adamant JE has the final say 

we now know after his comments today Kargbo isn’t his pick - but we or most of us knew that before as in a previous interview he said the club know who I want and they have their targets too

this is the problem with this set up it’s something Iv never liked if the manager can’t get to pick I just don’t understand why when he’s the coach and doing all the work on the pitch with the players 

it makes no sense to me at all

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Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

That’s a fair u turn chaddy 2/3 weeks ago you were adamant JE has the final say 

we now know after his comments today Kargbo isn’t his pick - but we or most of us knew that before as in a previous interview he said the club know who I want and they have their targets too

this is the problem with this set up it’s something Iv never liked if the manager can’t get to pick I just don’t understand why when he’s the coach and doing all the work on the pitch with the players 

it makes no sense to me at all

It's almost like the ultimate control "it was all me"

 

[neophox]

18 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

His stand out performance by a mile came against Luton when he started. Got a goal and man of the match.

Yes and against an former Prem League team.

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Youve been keen to stress throughout the last month that we need Championship experience and have always echoed Eustace who has regularly asked for that.

Are you concerned that we seemingly are not going to get that? Are you concerned that there is a chance that Eustace is not the one who is picking the signings? He described Kargbo as "one the club likes."

You also said Kargbo and that striker at St  Johnstone would not be a good enough window and you seemed uncharacteristically irritated by the club. Are you still as unimpressed by us signing Kargbo?

And you wanted "assets on the balance sheet" having heard Elliott Jackson say it. Would a window of Kargbo and 3 short term deals concern you regarding that.

Yes it would be great to sign quality championship striker but if we can't agree a deal or the higher price is too high then rightly we look for similar quality in the overseas market but lower wages. 

I am more concerned about not signing a striker on all or signing a young PL player on loan as our striker signing instead of going for someone who has played first team football more and has a record of goals. 

on Kargbo, I have no idea on his quality. 

Signing that striker from St. Johnstone as main striker signing s what I slammed and I stand by that. 

Also just to correct you here that my comments on having assets on the balance sheet did not come from Elliott Jackson but from my own view on focusing on the short term whilst having one eye on the future. 

I will give my view on the window at the end of the window and who we signed. 

 

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

His stand out performance by a mile came against Luton when he started. Got a goal and man of the match.

Apart from that one game, he hasn't impressed me so much 

[roversfan99]

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We know that Gestede as head of football operations so of course he would be leading the search and working with Adam Owen to bring in players even if we had a chief Scout(who wouldn't be involved transfer negotiations)

Eustace wants championship experience signings but unless we spent the players on getting them and pay higher wages for players like Wallace, Bamford and Schlupp, we can't pay those wages on our budget. So we have be smarter and clever in our transfers and still bring in experience championship like we did with Hyam or Brittain or Batth or Weimann but also look for lower wage quality players like Ohashi. 

Eustace has been involve in the final choice of who we sign but also he is having to compromise on just looking at championship players and look further field and into the European leagues. 

 

 

But it seems like the signings are not what he asked for and his comments today saying "the club" like him dont suggest that he is totally happy with the route we are going down.

Considering you wanted Championship experience and you wanted us to buy a main striker. IF we sign Kargbo permanently (who you didnt seem too happy about) and say this Egyptian on loan, rather than someone like Thomas Asante. Would you be disappointed with the window baring in mind your previous comments? Would you be confident of a top 6 finish?

Based on your previous comments, its certainly not what you wanted. So my natural assumption would be that you wouldnt be too happy. But you seem to be doing somewhat of a u turn. Its gone from Championship experience to first team experience. And you dont seem to be willing to concede that it isnt what Eustace asked for.

Edited Thursday at 21:19 by roversfan99

[London blue]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

I will give my view on the window at the end of the window and who we signed. 

Something to look forward to at least.

[neophox]

Rovers are pissing this window as usual...

[martonrover]

53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

wrong again Ian

Only because the site was down, Chris 😉

You’re now making up for lost time 🙂

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Torgeir said:

ACD has offered something off the bench at times, but has looked totally lost when starting. Good at pressing and has shown glimpses - I think it's a player there and wouldn't mind us signing him on a permanent in the summer. 

You're mad. 

He absolutely doesn't suit our style of football. He'd look ok in a team that's well on top - he plays his best football in the final third where he can shift the ball and do something with that half a yard. Getting up and down the pitch and beating his man for pace / in behind (which is what we desperately need) is beyond him in the senior game. He's far too unathletic. 

[booth]

4 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

What’s the point here? We’re after a striker and a winger 

aasgard looks a player but wasn’t a position we were desperate for 

The point is he's been "okay" in the Swiss league scoring 7 so far, and spending our last £3.3m on someone merely "okay" seems a bit crazy to me. It's not like he's a 30 goal striker. The top scorer in the Swiss Super League has 11.

[Tom]

Feel for Kyle McFadz - moved on to play football and within 10 minutes gets a season ending injury 

Hope he can at least go out on his own terms and get a couple games 

[booth]

2 hours ago, Nipper1875 said:

Mind boggles as to what a scout as seen ??? i cant see no championship player in them clips 

He's still an upgrade on Hedges 😄

[booth]

4 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Is he a CF or a Winger?

Centre forward apparently.

[JHRover]

So the bloke who kept up a sinking ship last season and on buttons has turned it into a play-off chasing team in the space of 6 months, who has worked in professional football and coaching for the last decade and earned acclaim for jobs done here and at Birmingham has to play second fiddle in selecting his transfer targets to Rudy 'work experience' Gestede who has never occupied a similar position before in his life (and wouldn't have got this job at any other Championship club), and Adam Owen, whoever the hell he is. 

Make it make sense. 

Still when Eustace jacks it in and moves elsewhere at least the immovable ones will be further entrenched in their positions

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, booth said:

The point is he's been "okay" in the Swiss league scoring 7 so far, and spending our last £3.3m on someone merely "okay" seems a bit crazy to me. It's not like he's a 30 goal striker. The top scorer in the Swiss Super League has 11.

Latth scored 14 in 31 there and was in seria b with not a great record before thst and has gone on to be excellent here. Granted boro when they signed him brought others in with him so was a gamble they could take. If spending 3.3 million on a single player then I'm sure Eustace would want it spending on a player more proven 

We won't spend that on a player anyway. It will be Kargbo for under £1 million and 1 or 2 loans 

[booth]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

I will give my view on the window at the end of the window and who we signed.

 

1 hour ago, London blue said:

Something to look forward to at least.

Sneak preview...

Edited Thursday at 22:59 by booth

[Torgeir]

7 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

You're mad. 

He absolutely doesn't suit our style of football. He'd look ok in a team that's well on top - he plays his best football in the final third where he can shift the ball and do something with that half a yard. Getting up and down the pitch and beating his man for pace / in behind (which is what we desperately need) is beyond him in the senior game. He's far too unathletic. 

You’re mad.

He’s very raw but is hard-working and I see some potential there. Only interesting if the price is right. 
 

[Eddie]

I don't really care if Eustace is involved in the decision-making on signings or not.

He should consult the scouting team and DoF (or whatever we call them) and tell them what he thinks he needs and the type of player, but the individual assessment and sign-off shouldn't really involve him. He doesn't have time to go through the proper scouting or analysis and we should put knowledgeable people in place for those purposes (again, this rasies questions about Gested et al).

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, booth said:

The point is he's been "okay" in the Swiss league scoring 7 so far, and spending our last £3.3m on someone merely "okay" seems a bit crazy to me. It's not like he's a 30 goal striker. The top scorer in the Swiss Super League has 11.

‘Okay’ he’s 9 goal contributions in 14 games due to injury and suspension 

his form and progression seems to be on the up Given the interest in him and the substantial offers already in for him 

23 years old fantastic resale value if he continues progressing 

was bought for 20million (price tag at his young age could easily have got him and it looks to have)

but yea we shouldn’t go for him - strange

anyhow never in a million years going to happen 

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, neophox said:

Rovers are pissing this window as usual...

I was pissing by your window

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I don't really care if Eustace is involved in the decision-making on signings or not.

He should consult the scouting team and DoF (or whatever we call them) and tell them what he thinks he needs and the type of player, but the individual assessment and sign-off shouldn't really involve him. He doesn't have time to go through the proper scouting or analysis and we should put knowledgeable people in place for those purposes (again, this rasies questions about Gested et al).

 

Nonsense - the individual assessment should directly involve the coach/manager to make sure their the right fit for the club

[islander200]

Wonder what we have seen in Kargbo that other clubs have missed. 

Eustace must be fuming behind the scenes  he has repeatedly mentioned "experience " and "names" and players like Schlupp, Wallace, Bamford,Asante being mentioned.

He wouldn't have kept mentioning "names " etc if he wasn't under the impression we had the budget for it 

Hope it works out for Kargbo but it's not a signing a promotion chasing team is making unless alongside others and he is given time to bed in

[M_B]

3 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

i won`t believe till i actually see him in a rovers shirt,dealing with our lot must be a nightmare

Aye, must be happening though if Lancs are reporting it.

As you say, actually signing him is a different matter.

[Bohinen1983]

29 minutes ago, Tom said:

Feel for Kyle McFadz - moved on to play football and within 10 minutes gets a season ending injury 

Hope he can at least go out on his own terms and get a couple games 

Season ending? I can't see anything regarding the severity of the injury..