January Transfer window

[roversfan99]

26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You are getting obsessed with this fixation about whether Eustace is happy or not about transfers..

I'm sure there is some compromise over targets and what our budget. That's sadly how football works

He knew Szmodics was going all summer. Ipswich messed us around all summer. 

He keep saying he wants. He is the head coach and to be honest you are against his player shortlist of Bamford, Wallace and Schlupp. You were against Dembele coming here. 

Eustace picks the target from the shortlist provided from the club recruitment team shortlist. That's how this set up works. 

Travis is backing his own team mates to get a playoff place. Why aren't you? 

Eustace has massively overachieved for me already this season. If a Southampton came in for him this season and he would have my thanks. 

Very different reasons to the previous 2 head coaches and why didn't make the playoffs. 

The point isnt about my opinion on those specific players. I am just saying that I dont think that Eustace is getting what he wants. He asked for one thing and seemingly is getting another and he said "the club" likes him which is as clear as you can get to suggest that its not the signing he had in mind.

We dont need this superfan get behind the lads FFS rhetoric. Obviously all of the soundbites from players and manager will be saying they think we can. We are all desperate to make the play offs but we are discussing whether we a fans think we can and will, without the blue and white glasses on. I personally think that we dont have the squad for a top 6 push, the creaks in our squad are already showing hence a terrible January and we wont strengthen sufficiently to avoid a 4th successive season where we are unable to sustain first half of the season form across 46 games to get over the line.

You said the same about those managers when in employment and "after a think" turned 180 degrees 

Edited Friday at 10:02 by roversfan99

[roversfan99]

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Clearly trying to sign players but the January transfer window is always slow at the start. Every year. Nothing changes. 

Fans angry? We might buy a striker for a few million pounds and would you be angry about that really? Why can't you wait and see who we sign and what deal is involved? 

What wrong with targets players from overseas? @unleadedspeaks highly of this player. can you disagree with him? 

If we buy a striker for a few million pounds then obviously it will change the reaction, depending on who it is.

There is nothing wrong with players from overseas. But its you echoing Eustace who said you wanted domestic players with Championship experience. Ive always said personally that you can often find better value on the continent but the standard at which Kargbo has been playing is a bit concerning. 

[Glosrover]

3 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Because its too late now Chaddy...our play off hopes are all but gone.  The window is going/ has gone how most predicted.

After being promised championship quality, out 2 yr plus search for a 'quality striker' and 'winger with pace' looks like ending with a lad from the Italian 3rd tier and maybe a loan from the SPL.  These standard of payers could have been brought in week 1 in Jan. i

I have no doubt we will off load somebody else by Monday also. 

It's going to be carnage in the summer with  the amount of players we have coming out of contract. 

 

It’s carnage most summers with players out of contract………

[Dan]

Just seen this guy in Samlesbury. Think he’s probably off to Preston though, they like players with a bit of bite. 

[rigger]

1 hour ago, roverandout said:

I wouldn't mind mikey Moore as a star winger 

Or even Mickey Mouse.

[chaddyrovers]

13 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Yeah I can disagree with unleaded. Kargbos stats are poor in Seria B.He is available cheap and nobody else is bidding.

And? Does that really matter? Did anyone bid for Ohashi or other players we signed over the years..

13 minutes ago, islander200 said:

No point Even trying to debate with you. 

Ok. Cos I won't agree with you. You are the one getting angry over what might not be case. 

13 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Other clubs have signed players chaddy

So have we..

13 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Kargbo at £1 million could have been done weeks ago 

Yes maybe, but maybe we tried and failed on other players. 

[BlackburnEnd75]

Tbf to Travis its exactly the reaction I'd expect from him. Every interview with him he always says we should be getting in the top 6 regardless of quality.

He's got quite a belligerent character, he likely knows that we need more quality but he's likely riled up having not got it and wants to prove that they can make it anyway. Proper captains attitude and I don't buy it that he's spamming the party line

On a separate note i've no faith in the work experience boy to pick the signings. Hope I'm wrong as I've previously backed a DoF model but I'd rather have let eustace make the decision on incomings.

[TheRevAshton]

I've been seeing loads of "Happy Kargbo day" shit on X...

Is it just me who isn't excited in the slightest for this signing? Feels very underwhelming, especially given our position and the money brought in.

We need proven quality, this seems like more of a shot in the dark.

Don't get me wrong, he looks like he has some solid attributes of which we're missing - but it's a gamble, he might absolutely crumble at this level.

Really hope there are some more ambitious targets in the pipeline, would make for a pleasant surprise... though this would be very much against the grain, going off the last 4 windows.

Edited Friday at 10:12 by TheRevAshton

[Dan]

1 minute ago, TheRevAshton said:

I've been seeing loads of "Happy Kargbo day" shit on X...

Is it just me who isn't excited in the slightest for this signing? Feels very underwhelming, especially given our position and the money brought in.

We need proven quality, this seems like more of a shot in the dark.

Don't get me wrong, he looks like he has some solid attributes of which we're missing - but it's a gamble, he might absolutely crumble at this level.

Really hope there are some more ambitious targets in the pipeline, would make for a pleasant surprise... though this would be very much against the grain, going off the last 4 windows.

It’s not the 90’s mate, we can’t afford to buy quality players anymore because our attendances aren’t high enough. We should be grateful Venky’s are routing down the back of their presumably hideously patterned sofas for spare change for a few players. /s

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

And? Does that really matter? Did anyone bid for Ohashi or other players we signed over the years..

Ok. Cos I won't agree with you. You are the one getting angry over what might not be case. 

So have we..

Yes maybe, but maybe we tried and failed on other players. 

What I dont get is you clearly think we tried and wanted to get better players.

You acknowledge that we couldnt. But it doesnt in any way make you say things like, we arent getting what we wanted. We arent getting what we need. The manager might not be too pleased. You dont criticise the fact that again we arent spending much money.

You just double down, regardless of what youve said before. Your belief that we will make the play offs doesnt seem to change in any way, even though youve said in the past that our play off hopes depended on something we seem unlikely to get.

[chaddyrovers]

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The point isnt about my opinion on those specific players. I am just saying that I dont think that Eustace is getting what he wants. He asked for one thing and seemingly is getting another and he said "the club" likes him which is as clear as you can get to suggest that its not the signing he had in mind.

If we can get the players he wants, should we not sign anyone then.

Take for Wallace, a transfer for him might have been possible but no chance now cos Mowbray rates him and starting him last game. Hence we moved onto other possible targets  

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We dont need this superfan get behind the lads FFS rhetoric. 

Same nonsense just assume different day from yourself 

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You said the same about those managers when in employment and "after a think" turned 180 degrees 

Wrong but I'm not doing this pointless debate with you..

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If we buy a striker for a few million pounds then obviously it will change the reaction, depending on who it is.

Then wait and see

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

There is nothing wrong with players from overseas. But its you echoing Eustace who said you wanted domestic players with Championship experience. Ive always said personally that you can often find better value on the continent but the standard at which Kargbo has been playing is a bit concerning. 

So why don't you wait and see on him.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, OnionBalaji said:

Travis interview with the LET setting the groundwork for underwhelming window / possibly no additions

 

“I was speaking to the gaffer, even if nobody comes in, we've got enough. I believe we've got enough in the dressing room to finish in that top six, so it doesn't really matter to us, to be honest.”

Narrator: They did not have enough.

[islander200]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

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Ok. Cos I won't agree with you. You are the one getting angry over what might not be 

You agree with whatever the club does 

Earlier in the window you said you wanted what Eustace wanted 

Foreshaw,Sanderson and Kargbo are not signings ambitious promotion chasing clubs make...fact.They are cheap signings and that's why they are being signed not because they are quality 

Why did Eustace say Kargbo is a player the "club" likes?

Why didn't he say he is a player "we" like.He is clearly trying to distance himself from the signing 

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

What I dont get is you clearly think we tried and wanted to get better players.

You acknowledge that we couldnt. But it doesnt in any way make you say things like, we arent getting what we wanted. We arent getting what we need. The manager might not be too pleased. You dont criticise the fact that again we arent spending much money.

We wanted wide left attacking player and its looks like we signing. It might not be Eustace's first choice but the club recruitment team seems to rate him. Similarly to Ohashi and Gueye..

 

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

You just double down, regardless of what youve said before. Your belief that we will make the play offs doesnt seem to change in any way, even though youve said in the past that our play off hopes depended on something we seem unlikely to get.

Let's see who we sign first. 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, roverblue said:

Criminal the club didn’t reinvest £10m at least of all the sales in the summer window. We are being run like we are in administration rather than a functioning football club.

We're being run like they're trying to stave off administration as long as possible - mainly because they're unwilling to put any money in themselves.

[Dan]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

What I dont get is you clearly think we tried and wanted to get better players.

You acknowledge that we couldnt. But it doesnt in any way make you say things like, we arent getting what we wanted. We arent getting what we need. The manager might not be too pleased. You dont criticise the fact that again we arent spending much money.

You just double down, regardless of what youve said before. Your belief that we will make the play offs doesnt seem to change in any way, even though youve said in the past that our play off hopes depended on something we seem unlikely to get.

 

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

You agree with whatever the club does 

Same old boring comments just a different day. 

You are getting angry over what might not happens.

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

Earlier in the window you said you wanted what Eustace wanted 

If we cant our first choice targets then surely you moved on to other targets. That's how football recruitment works. 

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

Foreshaw,Sanderson and Kargbo are not signings ambitious promotion chasing clubs make...fact.They are cheap signings and that's why they are being signed not because they are quality 

Sanderson one is logical to me 

On Kargbo, why can't you judge him in Rovers shirt not before he signed here given you never seen him play live. Take it you had similar opinions on Samba and Nelsen when Hughes signed there from B Team at Hertha Berlin and DC united. 

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

Why did Eustace say Kargbo is a player the "club" likes?

Clearly Eustace hasn't personally scouted just like Ohashi signing  

[RoversClitheroe]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Same old boring comments just a different day. 

It's true. 

Anything the club do you seem to think is amazing.

[roversfan99]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

If we can get the players he wants, should we not sign anyone then.

Take for Wallace, a transfer for him might have been possible but no chance now cos Mowbray rates him and starting him last game. Hence we moved onto other possible targets  

Same nonsense just assume different day from yourself 

Wrong but I'm not doing this pointless debate with you..

Then wait and see

So why don't you wait and see on him.

I think people would take you seriously if you stood by your opinions even if what happens doesnt follow suit.

Now you are just resorting to "well shall we not sign anyone then." A petulant counter argument knowing that the window is not going how you wanted it to but you cant bring yourself to admit it.

[Armchair supporter supremo]

Me trying to catch up on this thread a few times a day and slalom around a certain village eediots many many many many tedious posts. 

[islander200]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Same old boring comments just a different day. 

You are getting angry over what might not happens

I'm getting angry over what is happening.

We are spending a pittance again...we have waited all window to bring in "quality" only to find our only current cash bid on the table is for a player nobody else wants 

It's not good enough with the injuries we have to not have made signings sooner ,if the signings are cheap like Kargbo will be.

We are a joke club under this ownership fact.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

To be honest it’s pointless debating with chaddy because he changes the wording all the time to suit his own narrative can never admit he has been wrong or the club is wrong (not sure why Iv been wrong loads of times nothing wrong with it)

It began with Eustace wants experience il trust whoever we get in as Eustace would have given the ok to it 

to now saying well we can’t get that experience (which plenty on here said due to clubs lack of ambition) so we’re looking overseas and Eustace will have some sort of say but not the final say now

to then for 2/3 days agreeing with most on here about how poor it’s been that we haven’t even got one player in (priority position) and how we haven’t spent any money and not even a contract renewal

to now going back again to say let’s judge come the 3rd

all angles are covered - he can never be wrong when he agrees/disagrees with everything on here 

[roversfan99]

The Samba and Nelsen argument is a weak one too. Obviously people will judge players on how they do in a Rovers shirt. But there have also been a lot of players plucked from obscurity that have ended up as duds. Sasha Petshi, Fode Koita, Herold Goulon, Elrio Van Heerden, and other forgettable names. 

Kargbo may well turn into a very shrewd bit of business but if our window ends up with a League 1 defender on loan, a Plymouth reject on a short term deal, a player who has only really thrived at Serie C level and potentially a striker on loan, its clearly not what a reasonable club considering the sales made should have expected considering our league position and I am sure that Eustace wont be too happy.

Lets hope a striker signs for a decent fee and comes out of nowhere and we also get a midfielder and left back. But I am not confident.

[Inferi]

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

If we can get the players he wants, should we not sign anyone then.

Take for Wallace, a transfer for him might have been possible but no chance now cos Mowbray rates him and starting him last game. Hence we moved onto other possible targets.

When Mowbray was appointed as WBA manager half of the transfer window had already passed. Even if what you said is true there was plenty of time to complete a transfer if the club had any ambition. 

[rigger]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The Samba and Nelsen argument is a weak one too. Obviously people will judge players on how they do in a Rovers shirt. But there have also been a lot of players plucked from obscurity that have ended up as duds. Sasha Petshi, Fode Koita, Herold Goulon, Elrio Van Heerden, and other forgettable names. 

Kargbo may well turn into a very shrewd bit of business but if our window ends up with a League 1 defender on loan, a Plymouth reject on a short term deal, a player who has only really thrived at Serie C level and potentially a striker on loan, its clearly not what a reasonable club considering the sales made should have expected considering our league position and I am sure that Eustace wont be too happy.

Lets hope a striker signs for a decent fee and comes out of nowhere and we also get a midfielder and left back. But I am not confident.

I'm confident, your hopes will be dashed.