January Transfer window

[Rover down South]

13 minutes ago, Rover1984 said:

Nixon reckons O Brien will go to the wire. And that we are the highest positioned team in for him. If he chooses anyone else goes to show what he thinks of us…….could you blame him though

Imagine they'll be looking for who will contribute most towards his wages, so that'll rule us out.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, FE123 said:

Looks like we are after Youan as well if Scottish newspapers are anything to go by. Eustace must want 2 wingers.

 

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-reject-bid-for-elie-youan-but-braced-for-further-offers-as-efl-suitors-circle-4969260

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Or God help us, thinking of playing Kargbo as a striker ?

Or most likely, seeing as a bid was apparently earlier in the week. That we bid on both him and Kargbo and the latter is the one who we had a bid accepted for first.

[Eddie]

35 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Yeah thank the lord for signings like Wahlsted, Hirst, Ennis, Telalovic, O'Riordan, Fleck, O Riordan and the deadline day debacles for O Brien, the lad from Rochdale and Mcguire.

Where would we have been without them?

Do you only want to mention the bad ones? Is that how the evaluation works? Also forgot we signed O'Riordan twice. 

What about Tronstad? Hill? Hyam? Szmodics? Brittain? 

Nevermind the fairly long list of players we've brought in who didn't set the world alight here, but who were clearly very talented players and have done well since. 

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Yeah but do you not counter that with the good signings?

Szmodic,Hyam,Brittain,Tronstad 

With a small budget even the best recruitment team in the world wouldn't be getting every one right 

To be fair despite being one of the lowest spending teams in the league we have finished 8th , 7th, poor season ,and are currently 7th in the league now with over half the season gone 

So overall recruitment have done OK it comes back to budget or an unwillingness to spend significant money to push us on that's the issue 

Good signings, obviously. 

And (gulp) you have to give kudos to the Ewood management for picking Tomasson and Eustace and the job they did / are doing in difficult circumstances

I bet both would say they were lied to though about the backing they would receive in the transfer market

The point is, we've signed more than our fair share of duds, and when money is tight (apparently) you cannot afford to make mistakes. And there's been plenty

[booth]

4 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Or God help us, thinking of playing Kargbo as a striker ?

I was just going to post this. hope we're not looking at using either of those as a striker and we're also signing a proper CF.

[TheRevAshton]

@unleaded - is there anything you can chip in on the Lewis O'brien and Mostafa Mohamed links?

(Or any other players!)

Edited Friday at 13:45 by TheRevAshton

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, 47er said:

Here's a new thought----in his recent matches Guaye has improved and Ohashi will soon be back-----so we don't need another striker! 😭

I'd like to see how they both do with some actual service.

[Fraserkirky]

Being a hibs fan also, I have always been of the opinion that Youan is better as a 9, he is lighting fast and surprising decent in the air. Left wing he be isolated. Would imagine he is viewed more as a striker than Kargbo.

[islander200]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Would you not say that is good management as opposed to like great players. As the second half season fall off happens every year because we can’t help or progress the team

the above have been good signings but if we tally the amount of incomings all together the majority have been poor 

Yeah but we got our money back for them more or less.Managers can also make shit signings 

In Broughtons defence when a little money was spent Hyam,Brittain, Szmodic where signed nobody could argue they haven't all proven excellent value. 

Even in the January Broughton wanted O'Brien and Undav and was hoodwinked like the rest of us that the club could do those deals 

Following summer it started OK, Tronstad long term target secured ,Sigurdsson a player with champions league experience, close with Batth then the budget was pulled from under him and Lower cost players brought in that weren't anywhere near the standard required 

My biggest issue with Broughton was how he talked up the signings but I think he was as let down as jdt was 

Do I think the club are in a better place now Broughton has gone?

Probably not ,no players have signed new deals since he left and no sign we are even talking with the likes of Brittain and Travis. 

Plus that podcast Broughton did before he left, and he spoke on the Wharton fee and his recommendations on how the budget should be used aligned exactly how I felt it should be used.

Just another fella in a long list of fall guys 

 

[islander200]

8 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

 

The point is, we've signed more than our fair share of duds, and when money is tight (apparently) you cannot afford to make mistakes. And there's been plenty

We have signed our share of duds undeniable 

But when you have such a small budget it's inevitable 

If you could build a promotion team out of freebies, loans, and transfers not costing more than £1 million then every club would be doing it.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Lancaster Rover said:

Garrett going to 4th from bottom in League 2 says a lot about where he's currently thought of being at standard wise

The Bristol Rovers fans liked him when he was allowed to play and I don't think he's looked out of place in the Championship.

I guess it's just us finding a club that will guarantee him playing time, cos much like Leonard that's what he desperately needs right now.

[BankEnd Rover]

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 

Or most likely, seeing as a bid was apparently earlier in the week. That we bid on both him and Kargbo and the latter is the one who we had a bid accepted for first.

Yep agreed...No way we go for him now, and all this talk of putting another bid in will all be smoke, like the rubbish of us bidding 3million on that other player. 

Next 1/2 incomings will be loans.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

We have, but the majority of our good signings have all come from our DoF. 

Over the last 5 years, our signings from managers have almost exclusively been mediocre players from their former clubs. I can't remember the last time it felt like a manager was part of spotting a good talent? Hughes?

And I never claimed that we were like Brentford, but you only make improvements by aiming for something and putting structure in place. We desperately need structure. 

You're also completely delusional if you think that Eustace has shown an eye for spotting talent in the transfer market. It works both ways. 

Bowyer's dad.

[booth]

15 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

Being a hibs fan also, I have always been of the opinion that Youan is better as a 9, he is lighting fast and surprising decent in the air. Left wing he be isolated. Would imagine he is viewed more as a striker than Kargbo.

Does he score enough?

[MarkBRFC]

34 minutes ago, FE123 said:

Looks like we are after Youan as well if Scottish newspapers are anything to go by. Eustace must want 2 wingers.

 

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-reject-bid-for-elie-youan-but-braced-for-further-offers-as-efl-suitors-circle-4969260

 

 

Unlikely if Kargbo is coming in.

Plus, 2 cash signings in a January windows?! Ha!

[booth]

1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said:

Unlikely if Kargbo is coming in.

Plus, 2 cash signings in a January windows?! Ha!

One is left footed, the other is right sided. It would make sense so for that reason it won't happen.

[Fraserkirky]

10 minutes ago, booth said:

Does he score enough?

Yeah, when he wants mate.

[AVE1875]

Just now, Fraserkirky said:

Yeah, when he wants mate.

Made me laugh this, such a crap chant ...

"He scores when he wants..." So what we're saying is players only score when they REALLY want to. 

[KentExile]

8 minutes ago, booth said:

One is left footed, the other is right sided. It would make sense so for that reason it won't happen.

both Kargbo and Youan are right footed, and both have predominantly played on the left side (when they have been played wide rather than central)

Kargbo -https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/augustus-kargbo/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/549791/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

Youan - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/elie-youan/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/465715/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

Edited Friday at 14:19 by KentExile

[RevidgeBlue]

22 minutes ago, islander200 said:

In Broughtons defence when a little money was spent Hyam,Brittain, Szmodic where signed nobody could argue they haven't all proven excellent value. 

We paid decent money for those 3 so in respect of the first two I wouldn't say they've pulled up any trees relatively speaking. In particular I wouldn't say Hyam's been excellent value, I'd say he's been good in parts but pretty poor in the main. I would also have said the same about Brittain prior to this season but at least he is now showing signs of the player we thought we were signing at the time.

The only thing in Broughton's favour is he brought in Szmodics. That gives him about the same strike rate as Owen Coyle who brought in Charlie Mulgrew. Doubt anyone would be clamouring for him to be made DOF though.

If it's true Sigurdsson is on the sort of 17-18k p.w. wages that have been alleged, he has to go down as a disastrous acquisition as well.

[roversfan99]

Derby are close to selling their CB Cashin to Brighton. They are paying £4m+ on a Norweigan defender and have already bought Clarke from Boro.

These owners are really holding us back so much and yet still people either defend them or defend the current transfer window.

[islander200]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

We paid decent money for those 3 so in respect of the first two I wouldn't say they've pulled up any trees relatively speaking. In particular I wouldn't say Hyam's been excellent value, I'd say he's been good in parts but pretty poor in the main. I would also have said the same about Brittain prior to this season but at least he is now showing signs of the player we thought we were signing at the time.

The only thing in Broughton's favour is he brought in Szmodics. That gives him about the same strike rate as Owen Coyle who brought in Charlie Mulgrew. Doubt anyone would be clamouring for him to be made DOF though.

If it's true Sigurdsson is on the sort of 17-18k p.w. wages that have been alleged, he has to go down as a disastrous acquisition as well.

What was hyam £1.7?Anything under up to £2 million excellent value .Poor last season as where many .excellent first season and has been this 

Brittain cost £1 million ,2 seasons before signing him he had been one of the better wing backs in the league when Barnsley finished in the playoff spots he was never a poor value signing at a million quid .

And the biggest issue no new contracts signed since Broughton left.

If you haven't listened to the podcast whilst Broughton was still employed by the club his recommendations of how the transfer money should be used aligns with nearly everybody wants on here 

Don't get me wrong with any ambition we could do a lot better than Broughton but from where I'm sitting and on evidence so far he has been replaced by worse and a lap dog in Gestede

 

 

[roversfan99]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

We paid decent money for those 3 so in respect of the first two I wouldn't say they've pulled up any trees relatively speaking. In particular I wouldn't say Hyam's been excellent value, I'd say he's been good in parts but pretty poor in the main. I would also have said the same about Brittain prior to this season but at least he is now showing signs of the player we thought we were signing at the time.

The only thing in Broughton's favour is he brought in Szmodics. That gives him about the same strike rate as Owen Coyle who brought in Charlie Mulgrew. Doubt anyone would be clamouring for him to be made DOF though.

If it's true Sigurdsson is on the sort of 17-18k p.w. wages that have been alleged, he has to go down as a disastrous acquisition as well.

 

I wasnt necessarily his biggest fan but your dislike of Broughton is massively clouding your judgement.

 

Szmodics was not the only good signing under his reign, but he isnt on par with Coyle signing Mulgrew anyway as Szmodics not only excelled here but also generated a considerable profit.

 

Hyam hasn't been poor in the main, he has been good in the main (this season and his first season when he got player of the season) with last season the exception. Brittain has been a good season and on Tronstad, you staunchly against Broughton happen to be the only person who doesnt rate him.

[booth]

12 minutes ago, KentExile said:

both Kargbo and Youan are right footed, and both have predominantly played on the left side (when they have been played wide rather than central)

Kargbo -https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/augustus-kargbo/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/549791/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

Youan - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/elie-youan/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/465715/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

More chance of it happening then.

I think I was looking at the wrong Kargbo.

[KentExile]

27 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

If it's true Sigurdsson is on the sort of 17-18k p.w. wages that have been alleged, he has to go down as a disastrous acquisition as well.

Whilst that is towards the top end of what Rovers pay in salary these days, its pretty basic by Championship standards.  Given he was a player with Champions League experience, and given his initial appearances for Rovers before his deal was made permanent, it looked a decent bet when he was signed

Edit - He scored 5 in 16 before signing permanently, which isn't bad at all for a wide player, 

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2023/december/22/i-m-loving-my-football-again--says-siggy/

Edited Friday at 14:43 by KentExile