January Transfer window

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

You're also completely delusional if you think that Eustace has shown an eye for spotting talent in the transfer market. It works both ways. 

What has Eustace done in your eyes since he's been at the Club to suggest otherwise?

And can you explain why you would rather Have Gestede, Waggott and Owen picking players than Eustace?

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, islander200 said:

And the biggest issue no new contracts signed since Broughton left.

If you haven't listened to the podcast whilst Broughton was still employed by the club his recommendations of how the transfer money should be used aligns with nearly everybody wants on here 

Don't get me wrong with any ambition we could do a lot better than Broughton but from where I'm sitting and on evidence so far he has been replaced by worse and a lap dog in Gestede

It's hardly rocket science to suggest that you keep your better players well secured contract wise - anyone on here could tell you that.

His recommendations included a suggestion we hold back one third of any available funds. Absolutely barking. You spend what you've got and trust that you've invested it wisely.

 

[roversfan99]

Its pretty reasonable for a loss making Championship club to keep aside a chunk of sales proceeds.

The problem is, Venkys refuse to invest 95% rather than perhaps 30%.

[Eddie]

13 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What has Eustace done in your eyes since he's been at the Club to suggest otherwise?

And can you explain why you would rather Have Gestede, Waggott and Owen picking players than Eustace?

All of the signings that appear to have had a heavy Eustace influence have been Championship journeyman who he has had a previous relationship with. None of them have been spectacular, at best they have done a job, but I consider scouting to be a lot more than just coming up with a list of players you've previously worked with.

Waggott clearly shouldn't be involved in the scouting/signing process in any capacity other than admin or to help define budgets. I don't trust him with either of those elements, but that's the role the CEO should play. Gestede? Jury is very much out. The signings so far have been OK, but I at least understand the need for a dedicated specialist in this type of role. Adam Owen? Again, difficult to comment.

I suppose the thing you, and some others, are missing is that this isn't a pro-Gestede or Waggot piece, it is simply saying that this added layer should be beneficial to the club. It is how things are done now and there is no advantage to being some old-fashioned holdout who expects the manager to be overseeing transfer business. 

Do I think this club is stacked with people who are good at their job? No. But that doesn't mean that we should expect one person to do all of it. 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said:

It’s okay, we all know you meant to type Tronstad 🫢

Too sharp for your own good as always Mr Wilsden!

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, Eddie said:

I suppose the thing you, and some others, are missing is that this isn't a pro-Gestede or Waggot piece, it is simply saying that this added layer should be beneficial to the club. It is how things are done now and there is no advantage to being some old-fashioned holdout who expects the manager to be overseeing transfer business. 

I agree that the modern trend is to go with some sort of DOF structure due to a perception that one man can't do it all etc but I'd argue that just because it's the way it usually tends to be done these days doesn't necessarily make it better.

Who would you rather be picking players, Kenny Dalglish or his DOF at Liverpool at the time Damien Comoli? Alex Ferguson or whoever was behind the scenes at Manchester United? Eustace or Waggott/Gestede/Owen?

It's a no brainer for me, not even up for debate whether it happens to be the modern way or not.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, FE123 said:

Looks like we are after Youan as well if Scottish newspapers are anything to go by. Eustace must want 2 wingers.

 

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-reject-bid-for-elie-youan-but-braced-for-further-offers-as-efl-suitors-circle-4969260

 

 

Interesting.

I'd take the opposite view to Exiled - wasted effort without someone up front who can put the ball in the back of the net. 

Neither of these two are prolific.

[bluebruce]

40 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's hardly rocket science to suggest that you keep your better players well secured contract wise - anyone on here could tell you that.

His recommendations included a suggestion we hold back one third of any available funds. Absolutely barking. You spend what you've got and trust that you've invested it wisely.

 

The point isn't that it's rocket science to keep players secured on contracts. The point is that the people who have replaced Broughton aren't even capable of that.

As for holding back a third of available funds, the regime have shown they wanted to hold back more like 90% of available funds. So not only is a third considerably better than that plan, but it's very likely it was suggested as a compromise since he will have been aware they wanted to do dick all with it.

Again, the point is not that GB was brilliant, but that what has followed him, in terms of personnel and planning, is demonstrably worse.

[LeftWinger]

48 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

 

His recommendations included a suggestion we hold back one third of any available funds. 

 

What's a third of nothing?

[RevidgeBlue]

9 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Again, the point is not that GB was brilliant, but that what has followed him, in terms of personnel and planning, is demonstrably worse.

I disagree.

I thought the recruitment in summer (Park) was far far better.

[Waggy76]

Have we signed anyone ?

[bluebruce]

29 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I disagree.

I thought the recruitment in summer (Park) was far far better.

I don't think there's much between it. Brittain, Hyam, Szmodics, or Gueye, Ohashi, Cantwell? Meh.

But again the point is more about what we have now vs then, not in the summer vs then. Park was Chief Scout, not DoF, and Gestede has shown a concerning inability to get contracts done.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Striker needed asap.

Echo Chamber.

[neophox]

Will we see an out of the blue signing? Seems no one knows these days what happens..

[RevidgeBlue]

36 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I don't think there's much between it. Brittain, Hyam, Szmodics, or Gueye, Ohashi, Cantwell? Meh.

But again the point is more about what we have now vs then, not in the summer vs then. Park was Chief Scout, not DoF, and Gestede has shown a concerning inability to get contracts done.

Come off it - Brittain,Hyam and Szmodics cost £5-6 m.

Gueye Ohashi and Cantwell cost £2m if that.  The comparison is between them and Wahlsted/O'Riordan/Ennis/Telalovic/Hirst etc etc

[B16Rover]

13 minutes ago, neophox said:

Will we see an out of the blue signing? Seems no one knows these days what happens..

If no one knows, then everything is out of the blue 

[neophox]

Plymouth sign two International players today

[dallydally]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Interesting.

I'd take the opposite view to Exiled - wasted effort without someone up front who can put the ball in the back of the net. 

Neither of these two are prolific.

We won't put fingers in pockets for anyone who is "prolific"!!!!

[Crimpshrine]

3 hours ago, Rover1984 said:

Nixon reckons O Brien will go to the wire. And that we are the highest positioned team in for him. If he chooses anyone else goes to show what he thinks of us…….could you blame him though

He may be after revenge. Keep us interested until the last minute and then decide to go elsewhere.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, neophox said:

Plymouth sign two International players today

Two good solid defenders in the door for fees too

how it should work - sell Whittaker 

reinvest - no excuses - have smaller gates than us recently in league one 

if anybody is in any doubt re venkys etc just look at Plymouth indeed 

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

He may be after revenge. Keep us interested until the last minute and then decide to go elsewhere.

Good point.

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

Garrett gone out on loan. Surely, even with our incompetents, this means we are making room for a midfield signing?

[booth]

1 minute ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Garrett gone out on loan. Surely, even with our incompetents, this means we are making room for a midfield signing?

Last season we got rid of Travis and Wharton and replaced them with Fleck and Buckley. So anything can happen.

[JCRovers]

For every day that goes by without any confirmed signings, the more likely this transfer window will end up in a complete disaster. One can only hope they announce someone later tonight (Kargbo?) like they did with the Sanderson loan but wouldn't count on it. Even if the club does a bit of business this late on, they've already played six league matches in January and has dropped valuable points in the play-offs race solely due to inactivity/lack of strategy in the transfer market.

Sanderson was clearly Eustace's pick as they probably knew by then that McFadzean was leaving. Forshaw was clearly a panic move (recruitment team pretty much calling every Championship club to see who's available at a low/no cost) after Baker was recalled. When injuries started to pile up (Pickering, Travis, Tronstad), no one even reacted or backed the team with loan signings for temporary cover. Would seriously doubt if Waggott has any clue which players to look for, and Gestede doesn't remotely have the experience or connections that John Park had. Adam Owen? No idea. 

It's an absolute shambles that the club will (most likely) try to sign players on Deadline Day when they could very well prove to be a determining factor as to whether the team can push on for a top-6 finish or collapse all the way to mid-table or even further. Especially considering the fact that Szmodics was sold for decent money with the team being in desperate need of (quality) attacking reinforcement ever since. I would argue the following play-off rival teams have gotten stronger squads due to their winter transfer activity: Middlesbrough, Norwich, Sheffield Utd. and Sunderland. You can also make the case that Coventry has a stronger squad than ours and are likely to climb further up the table as well now that they are on a good run.

Players and head coach are once again left without backing yet no one seems to care. However, it's still expected that fans are to be 'grateful' towards the owners and continue to pay for tickets with their hard-earned money to support the team without getting anything back other than watching a club in decline. Just sad really. 

[AVE1875]

With Garrett gone that means we can register 3, let's see if anything actually comes to fruition although I'm not holding out for much.