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Watching tonight I actually feel it’s a good idea to target some pacer players to play off Gueye, he’s doing a lot right but with Hedges to feed off him we aren’t capitalising.

Hope Kargbo can chip in with a few goals 

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1 minute ago, Tom said:

Watching tonight I actually feel it’s a good idea to target some pacer players to play off Gueye, he’s doing a lot right but with Hedges to feed off him we aren’t capitalising.

Hope Kargbo can chip in with a few goals 

i thought hedges played very well tonight but he can`t do 90 minutes anymore and his dodgy hamstrings render him pretty one paced these days,he`s a good option off the bench but i don`t see him as a starter anymore

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4 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

The 2.5 year contract seems strange

They must be paying over what they wanted to pay for him, so have the short contract in place to minimise risk

There’s not much reason for it otherwise…unless it is all he would give 

Only just seen it's that short, that's a fucking joke tbh. We will have to start renegotiating terms inside a year.

Paying over what we wanted is all the more reason to ensure the asset is actually secure. If we're not willing to give at least a 3.5 year deal we shouldn't pay over our valuation anyway.

The rumours about this deal length came out a couple of days ago I think, and said the player's agent didn't want to give more than 2.5 years but we wanted 3.5 years. The player had been reported as keen to join, so we definitely should've told his agent to swivel.

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1 hour ago, pick32 said:

I’d be disappointed if we signed him, always looked like a poor man’s Cantwell

When he first broke onto the scene for Blackpool he had periods where he was sensational.

That move to Forest, and the subsequent loans (this must be at least his fourth?) have ruined him as a player. 

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1 hour ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Rumours going round ewood tonight that Siggy is off - probably paying for Kargbo...Imagine that.

 

He's barely played this season so I'd be delighted with that.

There's definitely a player in there but he needs to play as a #10, which we've never let him do. 

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31 minutes ago, Tom said:

Watching tonight I actually feel it’s a good idea to target some pacer players to play off Gueye, he’s doing a lot right but with Hedges to feed off him we aren’t capitalising.

Hope Kargbo can chip in with a few goals 

We've desperately needed pace for years. 

In the current team it would stop teams pressing so high up the pitch against us and open things up for Cantwell and Gueye. There was a moment in the first half where Brittain skinned their LB with his touch, looked up and passed it across the 6 yard box. Pedersen would have had a tap in - I don't think Hedges was even in the box. 

The reason Gueye wasn't there was because he was instrumental in the build up - so you still need goals from those two wide men, especially if he's doing all the dirty work. 

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Feeling good now! Excited to see Kargbo, a stadium announcement obviously means your special.

Encouraged to hear Eustace talking about 2/3 more.  

For once, please let us have a right good go. That bench needs serious improvement.

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47 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

We've desperately needed pace for years. 

In the current team it would stop teams pressing so high up the pitch against us and open things up for Cantwell and Gueye. There was a moment in the first half where Brittain skinned their LB with his touch, looked up and passed it across the 6 yard box. Pedersen would have had a tap in - I don't think Hedges was even in the box.

I don't know if you were mentioning him in relation to pace, but Pedersen wasn't quick at all. He knew where to be though in ways some of our current crop simply don't.

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55 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's barely played this season so I'd be delighted with that.

There's definitely a player in there but he needs to play as a #10, which we've never let him do. 

From what I've seen and heard, he and Markanday are probably the best finishers the club has. Yet neither provides enough all-round game to be a regular. Arguably both should have been tried more centrally...tbh I'd say further up than a 10 as I'm not sure they're creators. Not as traditional 9s either, as they've little in the way of hold up.

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2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

eustace must think garrett is the absolute pits if he`s not involving him in a squad that has 16 yr olds on the bench,he`s sent him to tranmere lovely  picturesque birkenhead

I expect if the rules were different, and you could play for more than 2 clubs in a season, Garrett would have been loaned out tomorrow instead, and probably would have been named on this bench and other benches prior, potentially with some sub appearances.

I really do think the 2 club rule is fucking stupid. At the least, loans shouldn't be counted in it. It discourages development of young players.

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Need to bring in a quality striker in before the deadline plus a left back

15 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I think people would take you seriously if you stood by your opinions even if what happens doesnt follow suit.

Now you are just resorting to "well shall we not sign anyone then." A petulant counter argument knowing that the window is not going how you wanted it to but you cant bring yourself to admit it.

We have targets at the start of the window and if we couldnt/can't sign them, we moved on to others. Standard football practice. 

The window not gone as we wanted? We signed a centre back, left sided attacking player plus a Baker replacement. Just need a quality striker in plus a left back before the deadline..

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Very strange to give Kargbo such a short contract. Not even mention of an option so after settling in, if he rips it up next season we probably have to sell him.

A few players needed to come in ASAP as this group is battling on giving everything but running on empty. Need some energy and pace.

Or offered him a new contract 

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6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Need to bring in a quality striker in before the deadline plus a left back

We have targets at the start of the window and if we couldnt/can't sign them, we moved on to others. Standard football practice. 

The window not gone as we wanted? We signed a centre back, left sided attacking player plus a Baker replacement. Just need a quality striker in plus a left back before the deadline..

Or offered him a new contract 

Its not just about ticking boxes. A Baker replacement? Someone who is a considerable downgrade. A centre back who hasnt impressed me so far and a winger who hasnt really done much above Serie C. 

Obviously you have to move on if you cant get not only your planned targets but also then acknowledge if you dont think the window is sufficient for a team supposedly going for a play off push. 

Its such a shame because we are in a strong position but the squad is running at maximum, the bench is full of kids clearly just making up the numbers and any reasonable owners would at least allow the finances especially after the sales to invest a few million in some proper quality.

And youve surely learnt from experience that it isnt as simple as offering him a new contract. If he does well he will probably be less likely to accept. Such a short deal is very peculiar.

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I really would like another quick winger as an option on the other side, as much as it wont happen. The attacking players in central positions clearly would benefit from real pace. Gueye holds it up and someone running in behind would add a new dimension. Cantwell is a great technician but hes been a big disappointment, he has quality but the attackers around him dont get the best out of him. 

Ideally, we could shift one or two of the ones we have. Sigurdsson is the most obvious one even if it requires a bit of a pay off. Dolan, Hedges, or if neither was possible, even ACD to allow us to bring in a quick right winger where you could have the option of stretching the play on both sides.

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1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

I really would like another quick winger as an option on the other side, as much as it wont happen. The attacking players in central positions clearly would benefit from real pace. Gueye holds it up and someone running in behind would add a new dimension. Cantwell is a great technician but hes been a big disappointment, he has quality but the attackers around him dont get the best out of him. 

Ideally, we could shift one or two of the ones we have. Sigurdsson is the most obvious one even if it requires a bit of a pay off. Dolan, Hedges, or if neither was possible, even ACD to allow us to bring in a quick right winger where you could have the option of stretching the play on both sides.

Ideally yes, but if Kargbo takes the left spot you know have Dolan, Hedges, ACD and Weimann all able to play on the right. Could argue the 10 spot is of bigger need. 
It will be a striker and CM I think to go. 

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3 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

Ideally yes, but if Kargbo takes the left spot you know have Dolan, Hedges, ACD and Weimann all able to play on the right. Could argue the 10 spot is of bigger need. 
It will be a winger and CM I think to go. 

But there are a lot of players none of whom have any pace and 2 or 3 of them dont offer enough going forward.

Cantwell is someone who is best as a number 10 and we also have Weimann and Ohashi when he comes back. If we had more speed and quality to the sides  not only would we improve the wide areas but I think we could also get more from the likes of Cantwell and Gueye.

I feel like its a really weak area of our team. So often when you through the individuals, the defenders stand out and you are left wanting a lot more from the 3 behind the striker. If we could shift Sigurdsson no one would notice he wasnt here. But I think even shifting one of the other 3 who havent done enough would be good if it allowed us the space in the squad. Obviously we wont get a striker, another winger, a midfielder and a left back but I think we could do with all of them. So its about which order to prioritise them.

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