47er Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 7 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: We need strengthening everywhere. Your'e contradicting yourself! Quote
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Ricky Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 The young CB is an interesting one. Obviously very highly rated by them so it definitely seems like a good appointment. Must spell the end for Riordon though. Id argue it’s not a priority position for us and if we were to bring someone in there a loan would make more sense as we have two players due back later in the year. We are not scoring enough and that’s clearly the area we need to be looking at. 2 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 I find it strange saying CB is not a priority, we're an injury/suspension away from having to play 38 year old Kyle McFadzean in there. Wharton not back until next season, and even then it will take him a while to find his feet again. Batth and McFadzean probably not here next season, O'Riordan clearly not good enough. Hyam, Carter, Wharton, Litherland & a new signing seems likely to what we'll have next season. 5 Quote
DaveyB Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 24 minutes ago, Ricky said: The young CB is an interesting one. Obviously very highly rated by them so it definitely seems like a good appointment. Must spell the end for Riordon though. Id argue it’s not a priority position for us and if we were to bring someone in there a loan would make more sense as we have two players due back later in the year. We are not scoring enough and that’s clearly the area we need to be looking at. The problem with signing a loan CB in January is that we would probably be looking for them to come in as cover for Hyam/Batth/Carter (when he’s fit), and so you’re not likely to get a decent loan on that basis - clubs don’t like loaning their best youngsters out to sit on Championship teams benches Quote
Forever Blue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 46 minutes ago, Ricky said: The young CB is an interesting one. Obviously very highly rated by them so it definitely seems like a good appointment. Must spell the end for Riordon though. Id argue it’s not a priority position for us and if we were to bring someone in there a loan would make more sense as we have two players due back later in the year. We are not scoring enough and that’s clearly the area we need to be looking at. The club needs to build for the future as well as dealing with the present. If an opportunity arises to sign a quality young player then they should jump at the chance every single time. 8 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted December 30, 2024 Author Posted December 30, 2024 32 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: I find it strange saying CB is not a priority, we're an injury/suspension away from having to play 38 year old Kyle McFadzean in there. Wharton not back until next season, and even then it will take him a while to find his feet again. Batth and McFadzean probably not here next season, O'Riordan clearly not good enough. Hyam, Carter, Wharton, Litherland & a new signing seems likely to what we'll have next season. Why won't Batth be here next season? O'Riordan needs a loan where he will be playing Quote
roverandout Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 If we can bring in one quality striker. I'll be happy Quote
Ricky Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: I find it strange saying CB is not a priority, we're an injury/suspension away from having to play 38 year old Kyle McFadzean in there. Wharton not back until next season, and even then it will take him a while to find his feet again. Batth and McFadzean probably not here next season, O'Riordan clearly not good enough. Hyam, Carter, Wharton, Litherland & a new signing seems likely to what we'll have next season. Batth gets another season mate, reckon that’s a cert and probably already agreed. At that point we have Wharton back and Carter back as well. That’s the only reason I’m thinking a loan to give us cover until they are back. If this lad is as good as some of the comments though then it’s a no brainer. Let’s be honest though, there’s probably not a single position on the pitch where one injury doesn’t leave us without cover at the moment. We have a really small squad which lacks quality in depth. We’ve seen that with the loss of Travis. 1 Quote
B16Rover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 You own a football club that's cost you upwards of 200m in the time you've owned it You look at this form page for the calendar year of 2024 Across all strikers at the club, we have 12 goals in 23 games Promotion to the premier league is worth anywhere from 150m to 250m What do you do Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 2 hours ago, Ricky said: The young CB is an interesting one. Obviously very highly rated by them so it definitely seems like a good appointment. Must spell the end for Riordon though. Id argue it’s not a priority position for us and if we were to bring someone in there a loan would make more sense as we have two players due back later in the year. We are not scoring enough and that’s clearly the area we need to be looking at. It'd be a great signing if we were a functional club and it was part of a structured approach to transfers. Alas I can't help but feel like it'll be the only money we spend in January. 3 Quote
roversinmyblood Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Why won't Batth be here next season? O'Riordan needs a loan where he will be playing Let Reading have him as part of the deal even if it’s only a loan. 1 Quote
Forever Blue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 I’m concerned that Gestede is the recruitment lead if Gueye is anything to go by. 2 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Forever Blue said: I’m concerned that Gestede is the recruitment lead if Gueye is anything to go by. Ohashi and Gueye or Ennis/Telalovic/Hirst? What about Beck and Batth? Theoretically Cantwell looked a great signing at the time as well. Edited December 30, 2024 by RevidgeBlue Quote
Forever Blue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said: Ohashi and Gueye or Ennis/Telalovic/Hirst? What about Beck? Theoretically Cantwell looked a great signing at the time as well. You missed the point. There is a transfer committee. Gestede chose Gueye and Mofoumbi (sp?). Others on the committee chose the other players. Since Park has left, Jackson has confirmed Gestede now ‘leads’ on recruitment. Hence my fear we may get more Gueye’s than Ohashi’s. 1 Quote
jim mk2 Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 Just now, Forever Blue said: Hence my fear we may get more Gueye’s than Ohashi’s. Is one better than the other? Neither good enough for the Championship in my view. Gestede having any say on transfers is a worry. Quote
Forever Blue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 Just now, jim mk2 said: Is one better than the other? Neither good enough for the Championship in my view. Gestede having any say on transfers is a worry. I’d take Ohashi every time as he cost a fifth of what Gueye cost and he’s twice the player. Gestede is a novice who appears to have very poor judgement when it comes to recruitment. He shouldn’t be a lead on anything. 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 13 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: I’d take Ohashi every time as he cost a fifth of what Gueye cost and he’s twice the player. Gestede is a novice who appears to have very poor judgement when it comes to recruitment. He shouldn’t be a lead on anything. Think it's fair to give Gestede a few more windows before judging. Quote
Mattyblue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 The ‘Head of Football Operations’, whatever that means, needs a ‘few more windows’ Modern football ay 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 35 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: You missed the point. There is a transfer committee. Gestede chose Gueye and Mofoumbi (sp?). Others on the committee chose the other players. Not missing the point at all. You're completely speculating to suit your argument by claiming that Gestede picked the players who haven't done so well and the others picked the ones who have. If there is indeed "a Committee" (I'm reminded of Colin Crompton's Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club for older readers) there's no reason to suggest the recruitment in January will be any worse than in summer all things being equal. Unless of course any successes were entirely down to Park - which I admit wouldn't be the biggest stretch in the world. 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: The ‘Head of Football Operations’, whatever that means, needs a ‘few more windows’ Modern football ay So every signing has to be 100% effective? Of all posters forever is judging him off one player...Not really how it works in football and every club signs duds. Quote
wilsdenrover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 26 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Think it's fair to give Gestede a few more windows before judging. Or have an opinion based on ‘windows to date’ but be willing to change said opinion based on future windows? 2 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said: Or have an opinion based on ‘windows to date’ but be willing to change said opinion based on future windows? Of course but I wouldn't be worried based of the current signings. They've been the best we've had for a while, and that includes Gueye! 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Of course but I wouldn't be worried based of the current signings. They've been the best we've had for a while, and that includes Gueye! Shows how low the bar had dropped - let’s hope it is raised soon! 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Of course but I wouldn't be worried based of the current signings. They've been the best we've had for a while, and that includes Gueye! Wasn't it rumoured that we got Ohashi for around £250k due to some sort of clause in his contract? On the basis we've probably only paid around £1.25m initially for Gueye and Ohashi I wouldn't say they're the worst signings in the world. Then you've got Batth and Beck who were fairly inspired captures. Don't think anyone thought Cantwell was a bad idea when he signed either. Poles apart from previous dross like Telalovic/Ennis/Hirst/Wahlstedt Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said: Shows how low the bar had dropped - let’s hope it is raised soon! Have you been living under a rock these past years? Quote
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