January Transfer window

[Crimpshrine]

32 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Whatever people expect us to spend, or whatever we do spend- with the position we’re in, with the fees in the bank we’ve brought in over the last 12 months.

If we don’t even try to spend them to try and get promoted, what’s the point of us as a club? Especially with the potential riches on offer. Why bother buying a season ticket to see us go close, then effectively give up trying when we get close?

The lack of ambition is absolutely embarrassing.

I reckon the funds we currently have from player sales are already put aside for running costs. Venky's are loving the fact that they don't need to send any money from India.

Suhail would not dare to spend significant money on players and then ask for replacement funds from India to cover running costs, especially when that would mean Venky's covering it with a bond. 

Lack of ambition, lack of interest, lack of understanding ( why do we need new players when we are already in the top 6?)  - whatever it is, it's just another Venky January.

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, Browjd said:

Is Evan Ferguson completely dead? 

I didn’t even know he was ill. 

[RevidgeBlue]

23 minutes ago, den said:

Who’s Evan Ferguson and how can anyone be “partly” dead?

Young Brighton striker who burst onto the scene a while ago and who looked like he was going to be the next big thing but who seems to have fallen off the radar completely recently.

Never seen any serious link to us, just a couple of suggestions on here he'd be a good signing. I'm guessing we'd be towards the back of a pretty long queue.

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

I didn’t even know he was ill. 

Boom Boom!

1st heard that joke, Chubby Brown referring to Shakespeare I think.

[Forever Blue]

In yesterday’s LT there was a transfer update.
 

I didn’t read the story cos I dont subscribe, but judging by the headline we will be ‘active’ in January and that JE wants reinforcements in 3 areas. I’m guessing he wants a Striker and LW. No idea on the other position (maybe LB?)

There’s  also mention of Bindon, but no idea what the update is?

Anyone read the article and can put meat on those bones?
 

 

[Leonard Venkhater]

17 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Boom Boom!

1st heard that joke, Chubby Brown referring to Shakespeare I think.

A prize for getting those two names in the same sentence!

[chaddyrovers]

45 minutes ago, den said:

Who’s Evan Ferguson and how can anyone be “partly” dead?

Brighton and Irish striker. Good player with PL experience 

7 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

In yesterday’s LT there was a transfer update.
 

I didn’t read the story cos I dont subscribe, but judging by the headline we will be ‘active’ in January and that JE wants reinforcements in 3 areas. I’m guessing he wants a Striker and LW. No idea on the other position (maybe LB?)

There’s  also mention of Bindon, but no idea what the update is?

Anyone read the article and can put meat on those bones?
 

 

Striker with championship experience, left winger, and centre back who can play left back. 

Bindon not close to signing

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Whatever people expect us to spend, or whatever we do spend- with the position we’re in, with the fees in the bank we’ve brought in over the last 12 months.

If we don’t even try to spend them to try and get promoted, what’s the point of us as a club? Especially with the potential riches on offer. Why bother buying a season ticket to see us go close, then effectively give up trying when we get close?

The lack of ambition is absolutely embarrassing.

Totally agree. There is absolutely NO excuse for not backing Eustace this window and strengthening the squad. 

They can't hide behind FFP because nobody has brought in as much as this club over the last couple of years.

They can't use the admin error / rogue secretary excuse again because even the most deluded wouldn't fall for that again.

They've been happy to tell us that there are no impediments to Venkys putting money in.

It also seems they've been telling Eustace that he will be getting backed with a few signings and that there is money to spend (I reckon they tell every manager this in November / December).

So it will be fascinating to see what they do and what they come out with on February 1st when the inevitable failure has occurred.

If you aren't going to invest in this position then you never will and there is no point to any of this. We've learned from experience in the last 2-3 years what happens when you fail to back a decent manager and what happens when a small squad runs out of steam. 

The worst part of all of this is that should we slide away (again) after another January transfer window failure (again) and end up finishing say 9th or 10th come May there will be loads of supporters out there quite happy with that, claiming that it has been a good season and excellent progress following a relegation battle last season. But they will be missing the real point which is that we are on course for a top 6 finish and have an opportunity now to go on and secure it. Aside from the top 3 there are no teams that stand out. So to slide into mid table from here especially if self-inflicted due to a failure to strengthen that would be a failure, and probably one that would lead Eustace and some of our players to look elsewhere for next season.

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, Browjd said:

Is Evan Ferguson completely dead? 

Awful news for his family if true…

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Whatever people expect us to spend, or whatever we do spend- with the position we’re in, with the fees in the bank we’ve brought in over the last 12 months.

If we don’t even try to spend them to try and get promoted, what’s the point of us as a club? Especially with the potential riches on offer. Why bother buying a season ticket to see us go close, then effectively give up trying when we get close?

The lack of ambition is absolutely embarrassing.

Said pretty much the same on here yesterday…

27:40 in

 

[chaddyrovers]

17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Totally agree. There is absolutely NO excuse for not backing Eustace this window and strengthening the squad. 

They can't hide behind FFP because nobody has brought in as much as this club over the last couple of years.

They can't use the admin error / rogue secretary excuse again because even the most deluded wouldn't fall for that again.

They've been happy to tell us that there are no impediments to Venkys putting money in.

It also seems they've been telling Eustace that he will be getting backed with a few signings and that there is money to spend (I reckon they tell every manager this in November / December).

So it will be fascinating to see what they do and what they come out with on February 1st when the inevitable failure has occurred.

If you aren't going to invest in this position then you never will and there is no point to any of this. We've learned from experience in the last 2-3 years what happens when you fail to back a decent manager and what happens when a small squad runs out of steam. 

The worst part of all of this is that should we slide away (again) after another January transfer window failure (again) and end up finishing say 9th or 10th come May there will be loads of supporters out there quite happy with that, claiming that it has been a good season and excellent progress following a relegation battle last season. But they will be missing the real point which is that we are on course for a top 6 finish and have an opportunity now to go on and secure it. Aside from the top 3 there are no teams that stand out. So to slide into mid table from here especially if self-inflicted due to a failure to strengthen that would be a failure, and probably one that would lead Eustace and some of our players to look elsewhere for next season.

What would be acceptable spend in January in you opinion? 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Whatever people expect us to spend, or whatever we do spend- with the position we’re in, with the fees in the bank we’ve brought in over the last 12 months.

If we don’t even try to spend them to try and get promoted, what’s the point of us as a club? Especially with the potential riches on offer. Why bother buying a season ticket to see us go close, then effectively give up trying when we get close?

The lack of ambition is absolutely embarrassing.

The Wharton money has gone for me. It paid for last season debt to be cover instead of the owners. 

We spent a small bit(around £2m or less) in the summer. 

So it will be interesting to see what we spend this window? 

[Herbie6590]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

What would be acceptable spend in January in you opinion? 

That’s not the correct metric to use to form a judgement… e.g. theoretically we could get a world-beater in on loan I.e. wages only or we could spend £5m on a dud.

The correct metric is Eustace is given the additional players for the positions he wants at the highest quality level we can source.

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, Herbie6590 said:

That’s not the correct metric to use to form a judgement… e.g. theoretically we could get a world-beater in on loan I.e. wages only or we could spend £5m on a dud.

The correct metric is Eustace is given the additional players for the positions he wants at the highest quality level we can source.

I agree with you. For example purpose if we sign Tom Cannon on loan to buy and a winger for £1m then I would find that acceptable cos you sign a quality striker there. 

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I agree with you. For example purpose if we sign Tom Cannon on loan to buy and a winger for £1m then I would find that acceptable cos you sign a quality striker there. 

As has been pointed out to you chaddy, no-one is going to loan out Cannon with an option to buy as there's nothing in it for the parent Club.

An obligation to buy no matter what might be a different matter but could you see our owners/management committing to that?

[RevidgeBlue]

11 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

That’s not the correct metric to use to form a judgement… e.g. theoretically we could get a world-beater in on loan I.e. wages only or we could spend £5m on a dud.

The correct metric is Eustace is given the additional players for the positions he wants at the highest quality level we can source.

On the money as always.

You'd imagine Eustace would like a decent striker, left winger, and cover at CB/LB/Midfield. 4-5 players.

Let's compare that wishlist at the end of the window with who actually comes in.

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

As has been pointed out to you chaddy, no-one is going to loan out Cannon with an option to buy as there's nothing in it for the parent Club.

An obligation to buy no matter what might be a different matter but could you see our owners/management committing to that?

I said for example purpose, maybe try reading what was posted Rev. Might save you posted this. 

Your point that there is nothing in that type of deal for parent club, that's where you are wrong, if he did come and help us get promote then Leicester have what they want a sale. that's the carrot for them. 

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

On the money as always.

You'd imagine Eustace would like a decent striker, left winger, and cover at CB/LB/Midfield. 4-5 players.

Let's compare that wishlist at the end of the window with who actually comes in.

Eustace has said 2 or 3 signings he wants

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Eustace has said 2 or 3 signings he wants

Was that before or after the recent injuries?

Here's hoping anyhow.

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I said for example purpose, maybe try reading what was posted Rev. Might save you posted this. 

Your point that there is nothing in that type of deal for parent club, that's where you are wrong, if he did come and help us get promote then Leicester have what they want a sale. that's the carrot for 

2nd para I disagree. If we don't go up, Leicester don't have a sale and the benefits to them are fairly marginal at best.

If he was fit, would you loan Carter out to say West Brom for the rest of the season with an obligation for them to purchase if they got promoted?

Edited December 31, 2024 by RevidgeBlue

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Was that before or after the recent injuries?

Here's hoping anyhow.

his comments in LT after the Hull game

"We have spoken about it already and everyone connected at the football club would like two or three quality players to help the group,"

[Exiled_Rover]

28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The Wharton money has gone for me. It paid for last season debt to be cover instead of the owners. 

We spent a small bit(around £2m or less) in the summer. 

So it will be interesting to see what we spend this window? 

We spent nothing in the summer - Gallagher, Szmodics, Ennis all being sold far exceeded any incomings (by over £10m if I had to guess).

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I don't understand the first paragraph at all chaddy.

in my post to Herbie, I said I was using Cannon name for example purposes. Fair simple. 

 

27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I agree with you. For example purpose if we sign Tom Cannon on loan to buy and a winger for £1m then I would find that acceptable cos you sign a quality striker there. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

We spent nothing in the summer - Gallagher, Szmodics, Ennis all being sold far exceeded any incomings (by over £10m if I had to guess).

Ennis was sold 11 months ago

 

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

in my post to Herbie, I said I was using Cannon name for example purposes. Fair simple. 

 

 

OK, you missed the "s" of purposes which rendered the sentence meaningless.