January Transfer window

[bigbrandjohn]

25 minutes ago, booth said:

Objectively

Forshaw - couldn't get into Plymouth's team down the bottom of the league.
Sanderson - couldn't get into Birmingham's team in L1.
Woodrow - couldn't get into Luton's team, also down the bottom of the league.
Dennis - hasn't played in 9 months.
Ribiero - LB, six month contract.
Kargbo - Serie B player for 6 months.

Final thoughts (for JBiz who can't work it out for himself)

Let's be positive and hope that Woodrow and Kargbo can surprise us, Dennis can get match fit quickly and score some goals and the backup players can provide better backup than Forshaw has done so far.

Let's really hope that Tronstad and Ohashi can come back and Ohashi after a long rest can be as prolific as he was in the opening few games.

Gueye was a gamble, Yuki was a gamble. 

In JE we trust to get the best out of these players. Travis was written off, Brittain and Batth are playing out of of their skin. The only JE magic dust that hasnt worked so far is Siggy. 

[USABlue]

5 hours ago, Polky said:

😳😳😳

Scares the bejeezus outta me just lookin at him.

[bluebruce]

20 minutes ago, JBiz said:

Would be lost in the miasma of crap wouldn’t it. Pointing out we’ve had the same owners for 14 years and lost money in every one but this, I mean what’s the point of that when you’ve 95% screaming for Rao investment?

I said recently I’d be happy if the Rao’s, never put a penny into the club again and @RevidgeBlue , a very constant poster over the last decade said I “must be a Burnley fan”

So there you go. As pointless as it was fulfilling your request, I’d rather the club washed its own face all day long.

You didn't even fulfil his request, you just danced around it. He asked, what do you think of the signings?

[...]

9 minutes ago, USABlue said:

We were who we were long before Sir Jack.  He put us on the World Stage because of who we were 

He made us premier league winners. That's the angle I was aiming for.

Of course our famous blue and white halves and brand of football were recognised long before Uncle Jack came on the scene

[DeeCee]

I've resorted to picking up errors on websites tonight 🤦‍♂️

[roverandout]

It's been a slightly below average window.  Not the window we needed yet again.  While other clubs have significantly strengthened we've bought in mostly squad players.  What I hate is people praising the 'owners' when they've done nothing.  I just hope Eustace can keep working his magic 

[norwichblue]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont get why anyone thinks that much will change if and when it is resolved. 

Didn’t mention anything would change. Just considering that this window was particularly budget in our already-low standards.

Edited 3 hours ago by norwichblue

[lraC]

55 minutes ago, islander200 said:

In the summer we lose 12 or 13 of the squad signings have to happen, if we want have a squad not filled with 16 year old 

This window we had leeway with ffp, we could spend if the desire was  there and I'm pretty certain Eustace was under the impression more money than the relative to the league pittance we spent was available 

Like I said we should be using the position in the table to try entice players.They will have to spend something in the summer monet should have been spent on longer deals in this window 

We will probably sign some more artists in the summer. I wouldn’t banksy on it though and if anyone kicks off in the ground canvassing for better players, they  could get arrested by the local constable.

At least we didn’t sign anyone as bad as John Lowry and from those  painting a picture of positivity, draw your own concussions. 

[roverandout]

1 minute ago, lraC said:

We will probably sign some more artists in the summer. I wouldn’t banksy on it though and if anyone kicks off in the ground canvassing for better players, they  could get arrested by the local constable.

At least we didn’t sign anyone as bad as John Lowry and from those  painting a picture of positivity, draw your own concussions. 

The biggest artists own the club

[Exiled_Rover]

I think it's too little, too late. There's absolutely no reason why all of these signings couldn't have been done on Jan 1.

We've barely paid a fee - we've simply picked up unwanted players (Sanderson, Forshaw, Ribeiro, Woodrow and Dennis). Kargbo is the only one who was regularly playing for his side. 

If we'd have picked up points against Oxford / Bristol City et al I'd feel much better about this window.

As it is I think Boro have locked up that 5th Playoff spot with their deals this January and Sheffield United, Leeds, Sunderland and Burnley have built up too big a gap to catch them - so everyone else is playing for 6th.

Still, at least we've finally signed some pace, eh?

Edited 3 hours ago by Exiled_Rover

[USABlue]

6 minutes ago, ... said:

He made us premier league winners. That's the angle I was aiming for.

Of course our famous blue and white halves and brand of football were recognised long before Uncle Jack came on the scene

One of a kind.  Bless him.  To think if Jack came along tomorrow he would not be allowed to help like that   More regulations stitchin it up for the big boys.  I missed it ALL but thanks Jack.

[lraC]

7 minutes ago, roverandout said:

The biggest artists own the club

Sketchy reply. 

[Exiled_Rover]

13 minutes ago, roverandout said:

It's been a slightly below average window.  Not the window we needed yet again.  While other clubs have significantly strengthened we've bought in mostly squad players.  What I hate is people praising the 'owners' when they've done nothing.  I just hope Eustace can keep working his magic 

I think Kargbo and Dennis walk straight into the first team. Ribeiro provides much needed depth at LB and Sanderson is a useful option at CB / RB.

No idea about Woodley, assume he's been brought in so we can take Gueye off when he's on a yellow and lost his head / it's 70 minutes and he's run out of steam. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Exiled_Rover

[DeeCee]

3 minutes ago, lraC said:

Sketchy reply. 

Draw your own conclusions.

[JBiz]

2 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

Go on then, prove your footballing skills. What's your rating of our transfer activity this window? Do you find it acceptable that we only spent £1 million in total on six signings, whereby three on loan and two on a free? Do you acknowledge the fact that the club now has not spent more than £1 million in a single window during the last six winter transfer windows? Do you know anything about Kargbo that we don't?

I'm trying to be realistic in my judgement but some posters on here seem to be happy to cheer the club on regardless of what is happening. 

I’m not employed in football in any form, I’m as clueless as everyone else here but I would ask if you’d consider some of these points I wrote that I think, instead of going to sleep;
 

1. Any acknowledgment of competition for a small group of players that fit the “model” aka they’re potentially a profit, they’re better than the players you have and they’re leading championship players ready to roll? How many clubs are looking for that?

2. What about finding fees and wages for those specific players from 1. that fit into a structure that suits a budget? A budget that would take a £50m+ (Burnleys annual wage bill for 24/25 btw will be at least 5x total) per season investment to match the 3 relegated teams?
 

This, in an agent era, when players would rather leave for free to enhance their options. Dolan next?

3. There’s genuine agreement, acknowledgment or whatever you’d call it, that we’re basically on the shelf of a multimillion rupee conglomerate. I’m as depressed as anyone regarding this, however I just can’t get my head round the volume of people wishing and hoping for more Rao cheques. Fuck them, I don’t expect or want big investments from them. I know I’m not the only one. If the recent transfer receipts give us a marginally more competitive budget over a longer period compared to a team losing money, it’s a better investment than relying on billionaires who don’t care and can meddle IMO. We’re surely a better proposition for a new owner if we’re not burning through cash too.

 

4. I really rate Eustace and I also think our academy is basically pushing us forward, however I think the likes of Waggot and other backroom staff are jobs for the boys level shite. I don’t think they’re capable of organising some sort of conspiracy that others constantly reference - as recently as accusing Travis being told to say “we’re already good enough for top 6” to lower expectation. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone cocked these transfers on deadline day up again, but it would be another example of incompetence, rather than notion that shadows are at force to hold us back. 
 

 

[USABlue]

5 hours ago, martonrover said:

Sounds like we asked about an option to buy clause, and then they remembered Deadline Day 2023 😱

Yeah, perhaps they thought it best to keep the contract as simple as possible to reduce our chances of cocking it up again.

[JBiz]

18 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

You didn't even fulfil his request, you just danced around it. He asked, what do you think of the signings?

I’m not going near the latest two until they’re in the shirt on the pitch 😂 

[A Northern Horde...]

The Forest lad looks like he could be Handy.

Edited 3 hours ago by A Northern Horde...

[Upside Down]

46 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

Go on then, prove your footballing skills. What's your rating of our transfer activity this window? Do you find it acceptable that we only spent £1 million in total on six signings, whereby three on loan and two on a free? Do you acknowledge the fact that the club now has not spent more than £1 million in a single window during the last six winter transfer windows? Do you know anything about Kargbo that we don't?

I'm trying to be realistic in my judgement but some posters on here seem to be happy to cheer the club on regardless of what is happening. 

It's been an absolutely shit window where they have once again deliberately starved the squad of any real quality.

It has only just fallen short of being a complete disaster. Anyone that doesn't understand this really need to go and have a word with themselves.

[bluebruce]

11 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I’m not going near the latest two until they’re in the shirt on the pitch 😂 

That's completely fair! You just shouldn't say you've fulfilled his request when you haven't. You didn't even give your assessment of the other four signings.

[Upside Down]

32 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

I've resorted to picking up errors on websites tonight 🤦‍♂️

So he has delivered promotion already. Great stuff.

[Forever Blue]

No idea if the 3 new attackers will be a success but at least they look all relatively mobile. And at least now we have options at the top end of the pitch. 

[JBiz]

6 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

That's completely fair! You just shouldn't say you've fulfilled his request when you haven't. You didn't even give your assessment of the other four signings.

I still think it would be early go one way or another with some of the other signings from the summer so I wouldn’t expect anything damming / supporting from me, on players who’ve been here a fortnight.

TDLR; Dion replaces Fadz, Forshaw replaces Baker, Kargo is someone I’ve never even heard of and haven’t watched braga this season. There’s literally no assessment to make. 
 

 

[USABlue]

4 hours ago, AVE1875 said:

The only obvious choices are either Siggy or simply releasing Forshaw haha

Forshaw forshaw has to go. Not even close to anything we need 

[Norbert Rassragr]

Better window than the previous few January windows. Dennis and Kargbo need to get going early on though. Other teams in and around us have seemingly done better but we'll see. We have a chance of the play offs.