January Transfer window

[wilsdenrover]

42 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Thanks. I'm not up to speed on the latest workings of PSR.

It doesn't reset, does it? So it's a rolling cycle, so next year it will be the accounts from 23/24/25 that go into the PSR calculation?

Rolling cycle yes, I think next year it will be 24/25/26 (see my reply to Herbie)

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Who did the team layout that showed all our players, subs injured etc? Can you do one for our new squad now

[TheRevAshton]

Not gonna go into it to much, but as a whole... what a fucking shit window.

Dennis might become a good signing, mind. Think he was getting paid north of £70k a week at Forest despite not playing any football, on a wage like that though you'd hope he'd keep himself fit and ready at the very least. Fingers crossed he can come in for the WBA game, at the latest.

I also maintain that we needed appropriate cover at CM, pissed that they just seemingly forgot about it after failing to land O'Brien... instead we've signed an additional striker, in Cauley Woodrow.

If we don't go up, there's gonna be a major rebuilding job required for next season... and this lot don't know their ass from their elbow.

[cesus]

I feel underwhelmed because I think this could have been a push year. The manager has worked miracles with an extremely stretched squad, I think the league is as poor as it has been for years. 

We have more wriggle room than we have had for ages due to sales with regards to PSR. Next season is a blank canvas due to exits, I think we could have pushed the budget far harder than we have.

 

[damo100]

2 hours ago, Trinidad Rover said:

The thing that strikes me is the lack of long term investment.

We have signed one player with a contract beyond this season and that is only until 2027. 

Disticnt lack of contract renewals too. Half the team is out of contract in the summer.

My optimistic brain wants to believe Venkys might be looking to sell?

My practical brain believes they simply won’t invest. We invested what, £900k this window?

Overall a disappointing window and the bulk of activity done 3/4 weeks too late. We have missed a golden opportunity with the league as it is this year, teams around us have strengthened more than we have.

5/10.

Don't worry, the communicator Rudy's got this.

[Atko's Engine]

Well subject to all necessary papers being submitted & approved, my take on the window is that the club have done the bare minimum to support JE and the players.

There's plenty of Championship experience in the signings made, some PL experience too, as well as some complete unknowns. Who knows by June which signings will be successes & which will be failures? I suspect there will be some considerable variance on this board between expectations & reality.

Certainly the squad is stronger if only because there are more experienced bodies for JE to select from. Whether or not our 1st choice 11 is improved is definitely debatable, especially with Gueye's recent upturn in form, but then that 1st 11 proved itself to be good enough for top 6 anyway under JE's management, which is more than most expected it to be. And is that what January lends itself to anyway or is it as much, if not more, a chance for clubs to plug holes from injuries & suspensions as a long season unfolds?

Of course the real issue here isn't anything other than the problem at the top. It's not Forshaw's fault he's not better than Travis, or Sanderson's that he's not as solid as Baath, or Kargbo's that he's not played atvthis level before. It's not them towards whom any dissatisfaction on here ought to be levelled at; nor the recruitment team; nor indeed other fans who try to see the upside of the business we've done.

It's the owners & those who advise them. It's them who've sanctioned a massive £800k outlay on new players against >£35m generated in player sales; it's them who find themselves in court unable / unwilling to support the club; it's Waggott who says there's no impediment to the owners paying more when there clearly is (be it imposed on them or self-imposed).

I'm not going to rate the individual players on a 1-10 basis now, I'll do that at the end of the season. But so long as they try their best and give 100% to the cause I'll support them, even if they fall short, because they're just symptoms of the real, deeper lying problem.

[Paul Mani]

1 hour ago, ruggles1995 said:

I still think we’ve missed a trick not getting another winger. We’ve been crying out for a winger for years and with pace and I’m still unsure we’ve done anything about it. Again if kargbo is not very good then we will carry on struggling to give any service to any strikers we have that start. Dennis doesn’t seem like he’s going to be match fit with his lack of any game time in last 6 months. If we’ve striked lucky with kargbo then happy days, if not, I think we fall short no matter who is up top. 
let’s hope Woodrow and Dennis pull something out the bag to help us push on. 
Currently I don’t see any of our signings coming in to improve the 11 straight away apart from help with squad numbers.

Il shut up being negative as I didn’t expect permanents and we were never going to spend money to get proper quality in, just frustrated we couldn’t get a winger on loan we’ve been crying out for to improve the 11. I do think a quality winger pushes this team forward. 
 

Hopefully im proved wrong! 
 

also can Woodrow play in the 10? Or are him and Dennis just 9s?

I think Woodrow is more of a 10 than a 9 tbf. Quite a technical player with a great long distance shot on him from what I can remember. I see him as a more offensive 10 than Cantwell.

Dennis can play across the front three positions, as can Kargbo from what I’ve read, but I’d expect, with their pace, he may try them as wide forwards playing off Gueye? If nothing else it will be interesting to see how he puts Cantwell, Kargbo, Dennis, and Gueye together. Then we’ve got Ohashi to come back and cameo’s from Weimann and Woodrow?

Heres a prediction - If Hedges and Dolan start 5 or less of the last 16 matches, the signings have worked and we’ll finish in the top 6. 🙏🏽

Edited 2 hours ago by Paul Mani

[TheRevAshton]

11 minutes ago, ... said:

Who did the team layout that showed all our players, subs injured etc? Can you do one for our new squad now

Twas me - here you go;

Edited 2 hours ago by TheRevAshton

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

Thanks. I'm not up to speed on the latest workings of PSR.

It doesn't reset, does it? So it's a rolling cycle, so next year it will be the accounts from 23/24/25 that go into the PSR calculation?

Correct 👍

[LeftWinger]

SAS - Sutton and Shearer

Gueye, Dennis, Woodrow, Ohashi.

Both sound pretty threatening. Especially for Ohashi. 

[Paul Mani]

10 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Twas me - here you go;

Thanks - I think Dennis, Kargbo and Weimann can play anywhere across those front 3 positions. Woodrow prob more suited to #10

Based on this, it will be one of Pickering or Wharton who gets de-registered. Makes sense to pick the one who’s least likely to play again this season. Think I remember hearing Wharton targeting pre-season next year as his comeback?

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Thanks - I think Dennis, Kargbo and Weimann can play anywhere across those front 3 positions. Woodrow prob more suited to #10

Based on this, it will be one of Pickering or Wharton who gets de-registered. Makes sense to pick the one who’s least likely to play again this season. Think I remember hearing Wharton targeting pre-season next year as his comeback?

Wharton was never registered in the first place

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[RoqueSantaBlues]

Really hope Kargbo does well

[superniko]

4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Thanks - I think Dennis, Kargbo and Weimann can play anywhere across those front 3 positions. Woodrow prob more suited to #10

Based on this, it will be one of Pickering or Wharton who gets de-registered. Makes sense to pick the one who’s least likely to play again this season. Think I remember hearing Wharton targeting pre-season next year as his comeback?

Wharton was never registered so likely Pickering if he’s out all season. 
Potentially could be Leonard if he’s picked up another back injury (he probably would have gone out on loan otherwise), then I doubt we’d see him play again this season, especially with him being 4th or so choice now 

Edited 1 hour ago by superniko

[KentExile]

Just now, superniko said:

Wharton was never registered so likely Pickering if he’s out all season. 
Potentially could be Leonard if he’s picked up another back injury then I doubt we’d see him play again this season, especially with him being 4th or so choice now 

Leonard didn't need registering due to his age

[superniko]

Just now, KentExile said:

Leonard didn't need registering due to his age

Ah yes of course. 
Surely Pickering then. 

[Craigman]

5 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Thanks - I think Dennis, Kargbo and Weimann can play anywhere across those front 3 positions. Woodrow prob more suited to #10

Based on this, it will be one of Pickering or Wharton who gets de-registered. Makes sense to pick the one who’s least likely to play again this season. Think I remember hearing Wharton targeting pre-season next year as his comeback?

Wharton was not registered in September, so will have to be Pickering.

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, superniko said:

Ah yes of course. 
Surely Pickering then. 

unless someone else is being sold?  Maybe Siggy?

Some foreign windows still open, Netherlands, Turkey, UAE, most of Scandinavia etc

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/transferfenster

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[ruggles1995]

21 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I think Woodrow is more of a 10 than a 9 tbf. Quite a technical player with a great long distance shot on him from what I can remember. I see him as a more offensive 10 than Cantwell.

Dennis can play across the front three positions, as can Kargbo from what I’ve read, but I’d expect, with their pace, he may try them as wide forwards playing off Gueye? If nothing else it will be interesting to see how he puts Cantwell, Kargbo, Dennis, and Gueye together. Then we’ve got Ohashi to come back and cameo’s from Weimann and Woodrow?

Heres a prediction - If Hedges and Dolan start 5 or less of the last 16 matches, the signings have worked and we’ll finish in the top 6. 🙏🏽

I have to say I do think we could benefit off a 10 if Gueye continued his form, hes crying out for someone to get on the pieces around him to do the finishing. Cantwell is technically very good but he doesnt have the goal instinct and seems to go walkies to try and find the ball. Woodrow could end up being good then if hes more offensive up there in that role. 

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25 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Twas me - here you go;

Hero 

[RoqueSantaBlues]

On that text in the bottom of the Dennis announcement page "The deal is subject to approval from the relevant football authorities". As it says something similar on the Ribeiro announcement, is this to do with them not being from within the same division?

[Herbie6590]

45 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I don’t think that’s right - see below:

Thanks for the clarification. I hadn’t appreciated the forecast requirement for the current year, which kind of makes a mockery of the process.
e.g. If Rovers were to get to the play off final & then sell Hayden Carter in June the forecast submitted in March would be radically different from the actual year end P&L. 

[KentExile]

Just now, RoqueSantaBlues said:

On that text in the bottom of the Dennis announcement page "The deal is subject to approval from the relevant football authorities". As it says something similar on the Ribeiro announcement, is this to do with them not being from within the same division?

correct

[MarkBRFC]

9 hours ago, JHRover said:

What % of our squad is out of contract / loan in the summer? Must be over 50 now.

Out of the 26 players that can be registered, 11 of them are out of contract or going back to there parent clubs.

Beck, ACD, Sanderson, Woodrow, Dennis, Forshaw, Riberio, Siggurdson, Dolan, Weimann & Batth. Also Hedges & Hyam but they have 1 year options.

It's summer 2026 that will be the killer with Brittain, Hyam, Travis, Tronstad & Hedges all out of contract.

9 hours ago, booth said:

Be interested to know how far Dennis is off being match fit.

Hasn't played for 9 months, not expecting much from him which is poor seeing as he's been bought in as the marquee signing.

31 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Heres a prediction - If Hedges and Dolan start 5 or less of the last 16 matches, the signings have worked and we’ll finish in the top 6. 🙏🏽

I still think Dolan and Hedges will start the majority of games, while there attacking output isn't great, they both keep the shape of the side really well and make us a lot more organised. When they come off when we are winning we usually end up hanging on for dear life.

Think Kargbo & Dennis will be mainly used off the bench to stretch games with there pace.

No idea where Woodrow fits in.

Edited 1 hour ago by MarkBRFC

[BigHoz]

5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Out of the 26 players that can be registered, 11 of them are out of contract or going back to there parent clubs.

Beck, ACD, Sanderson, Woodrow, Dennis, Forshaw, Riberio, Siggurdson, Dolan, Weimann & Batth. Also Hedges & Hyam but they have 1 year options.

It's summer 2026 that will be the killer with Brittain, Hyam, Travis, Tronstad & Hedges all out of contract.

Hasn't played for 9 months, not expecting much from him which is poor seeing as he's been bought in as the marquee signing.

I still think Dolan and Hedges will start the majority of games, while there attacking output isn't great, they both keep the shape of the side really well and make us a lot more organised. When they come off when we are winning we usually end up hanging on for dear life.

Think Kargbo & Dennis will be mainly used off the bench to stretch games with there pace.

No idea where Woodrow fits in.

I’d be worried if Dennis and kargbo can’t displace hedges and Dolan.