January Transfer window

[den]

Like others, this window did highlight one thing. Eustace outlined what he wanted at least a couple of months ago. However we ended up foraging around on the last day of the window looking to bring in players that no one else wanted. 
 

Nothing has changed. It’s still an unorganised shitshow.

[Groundhog]

1 hour ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Bristol City away, I think

There was one at home where it felt like he had 15 chances in the first half and blazed each one wide or over. 

[roversfan99]

I dont get why it always reverts back to the same people calling others negative if they show any doubts or criticisms about our transfer business.

The main issue is obviously the owners and their lack of funding, again, when we needed more. Some choose to compartmentalise that and only critique whether weve got the best we could on our measly budget. Whereas some just question whether we have enough help to sustain a play off chance.

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

correct. 

West Brom sold their number 1 and didn't

 

replace him. Adam Armstrong hasn't officially join yet. Maybe paperwork problems

Boro has sold goalscorer and didn't spend any of that on permanently replacement but just loan striker which surprised me. Whittaker signing is good business by then Giles helps depth on the left side. 1st choice keeper signed down to first choice and second choice injured. A loan attacking player from Villa. 

Is that good? Not overly convinced but we see

Do you think those 2 teams have had better or worse windows than us? If you had to put the 3 clubs in order of the business done, what would it be.

Boro for me have undoubtedly had a better one. Latte Lath is a big loss, but Iheanacho is obviously a far more eye catching signing. They have also added Whittaker and Iling Junior which blows us out of the water and their attacking options are really strong. You love Giles, im not convinced by him, but Travers is a very good signing who should help them to concede less goals. Overall, they end the window miles stronger.

West Brom are obviously reliant on the Armstrong deal. They have spent big fees on 2 players who I know little about and also have loaned Lankshear. The keeper is a loss even though the one theyve recalled is very highly rated and has done well in League 1.

[Neal]

Has there been any word on which squad member misses out? 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 hour ago, Nipper1875 said:

Once again a January transfer window of utter tosh lets face facts 

What direction is this going 

Scouts what ARE  they actually looking AT  and looking  FOR ???

Look at the window  we have signed 1 good player in RIBEIRO good cover for owen beck and push beck forward ( better than hedges) 

Sanderson is a headless chicken penalty red card waiting to happen must be on late hundreds rather than  thousands for wages.

Forshaw - Ruddy bailing out his old team mate once again i wouldn't like to think we are paying him a wage cause its robbery if we are id rather we had Jake garret playing who wants to prove a point  yeah might not be good enough for the level but he is 10 of forshaw.#

Kangbo - Everything eustace didnt want but yet everything waggot wanted due to pressure on the board i only see it as a panic buy spending ridicule's amounts like that for another project who really isn't young enough we would of been better keeping hold of Telovic at half the money and the lad had some movement about him which i could see but also needed some coaching - it got the pressure off Waggot n Pashas back again most of fans fell for it the big unveiling on a Friday night great plan - these eyes can see what they was doing. 

Woodrow - what does he actually bring ???? ok record at Barnsley Yeah after that absolute failure - must be cheap but look what was available yesterday if your going to sign a player like that why didn't we get Rhodes back in bench warming - also coach for Leonard and Gueye best of 2 worlds surely and probably get you more goals and get fans on seats to see him again ???

Dennis the menace - Well yeah he as been a good player at some time yet gone well off the boil upset a lot at forest after hs massive 15m move - upset a few at watford aswell not had the greatest of records out on loan neither  - its another project the lad hasnt played a game for 9months so its going to take him so time to get upto speed with the game ect 

 

I was told at the beginning of January we had the chance of signing Danns early in the window yet we failed once again the board clowns waffling around again.

Then i look at some players what was available ready to go and match fit ready then think to my self what is actualy going on with the scouting and boardroom ???

 

All these players was available to go out on loan 

Connor Chaplin match fit proven 

Oriely at man city young cb great player watched him academy level on bench for 1st team 

Adam armstrong  we ll know he is match fit and what he does  on same wage as dennis 

Ali Hamadi scored plenty in lower leagues also seen he scored now in championship 

To much ambition ???

 

I just see this window as filling gaps cause we have some 17 year old lads on bench and these sort of players was the cheapest wages out there what we have brought in. 

 

I want a full statement from the club as to what direction we are going - a full plan on scouting system - and the major lack of once again funds available to reinvest into the playing squad.  

 

I' support the lads but it still stands 

We need a new board 

 

WAGGOT PASHA OUT 

Conor Chaplin - is injured so isn’t match fit proven

O’reilly - city must need him so not sure on this one tbh along with the loan add ons of must play etc 

Armstrong - only became available late yday so assume we had our deals done

ali - Hamadi - agreed I think he was the one we should have been all over from day one 

danns - could be anything and reported to be injured so maybe dodged a bullet 

agree with the rest though we should have been on the ball a lot sooner 

regarding incomings that we did get - I am confused on the Woodrow one but Iv settled myself on it overnight as a bench player he could be ok he can drop into the 10 role if cantwell is injured can play up top too

dennis is the gamble of course but what a gamble he could be just a shame itl likely mean another 2 league games missed before we see him - I think he’s quality (fully fit) pace power can score again though how quick can we get him up to speed and where will we be by that point 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

Dennis won't score anywhere near the amount of goals Armstrong would 

Armstrong has 6 PL goals (in 88 appearances).

Dennis has 12 PL goals (in 52 appearances).

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Do you think those 2 teams have had better or worse windows than us? If you had to put the 3 clubs in order of the business done, what would it be.

Boro for me have undoubtedly had a better one. Latte Lath is a big loss, but Iheanacho is obviously a far more eye catching signing. They have also added Whittaker and Iling Junior which blows us out of the water and their attacking options are really strong. You love Giles, im not convinced by him, but Travers is a very good signing who should help them to concede less goals. Overall, they end the window miles stronger.

West Brom are obviously reliant on the Armstrong deal. They have spent big fees on 2 players who I know little about and also have loaned Lankshear. The keeper is a loss even though the one theyve recalled is very highly rated and has done well in League 1.

Conceded 3 last night - not convinced Boros approach will work myself gone very very top heavy 

but ‘on paper’ they have done the best yes 

[BankEnd Rover]

Armstrong to WBA looks to be confirmed 🙃

[Dreams of 1995]

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont get why it always reverts back to the same people calling others negative if they show any doubts or criticisms about our transfer business.

The main issue is obviously the owners and their lack of funding, again, when we needed more. Some choose to compartmentalise that and only critique whether weve got the best we could on our measly budget. Whereas some just question whether we have enough help to sustain a play off chance.

Look, I know you love being the man to defend "just criticism" but the point is that our recruitment team 'wee with the willy we have'

Over the course of the previous few seasons, almost all of the signings have been met with a large degree of scepticism

I'm done with that. I'm well-versed to the fact we will be signing relatively unknown players, or young talent seeking to develop, or even older players in their twighlight. Because they are the pools we operate in. Am I happy about it? No. But will I constantly look to call those players 'crap' because they don't fit in with the Football Manager generation of 'wonderkids'? Nope.

And in fact, our progression has shown that largely we are getting it right. We have continued to outperform teams around us despite our budget constraints. Gueye - "crap"; Ohashi - "came from a crap league"; Weimann - "crap and old" etc etc etc etc

But despite all of that, this is another season we find ourselves in play off contention. We may not make it - fine. That's the horror of Championship football. But it looks as though this is another season that the hard-working & clearly very diligent recruitment team have taken a shoestring budget and produced a winning team

And so, with all that said and done, it has nothing to do with simply "getting behind the team ffs" and more to do with looking at the recent history and seeing that more often than not, the critique has been wrong, and the recruitment team has been right 

[Groundhog]

3 minutes ago, Neal said:

Has there been any word on which squad member misses out? 

Eustace said on a post on the BBC Lancs twitter page that they were going to shuffle the keepers about, or words to that effect - but to be honest I'm a little confused. 

We surely can't de-register injured players like Pickering as if they're fit in time we'll need them for the playoffs 😉

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Armstrong has 6 PL goals (in 88 appearances).

Dennis has 12 PL goals (in 52 appearances).

Compare championship records

I don't think Dennis has ever scored more than 10 in a league season in England 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Tbf I didn’t like how we played when we had Armstrong , was all set up for him to be the only one shooting, I remember one game in particular he had about a million shots and all way off target 

And yet that's the only time he looked like a good player...

[Gav Mac]

Ahead of his loan move? Surely he failed their medical and that’s that? Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a crock but why the flexibility?

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, Gav Mac said:

Ahead of his loan move? Surely he failed their medical and that’s that? Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a crock but why the flexibility?

Failing a medical doesn’t automatically mean a deal is off it’s up to the club buying if they wish to pursue or not 

[BankEnd Rover]

I'm over the moon with Dennis! Him and Kargbo add a completely different Dynamic to our attack.
Cantwell now has better options to feed balls through to and Gueyes knock ons will be pounced on.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

52 minutes ago, roversinmyblood said:

He got Sunderland into the playoffs. 

Diallo got Sunderland into the Playoffs.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Compare championship records

I don't think Dennis has ever scored more than 10 in a league season in England 

If he got 8-10 for the remainder of games we have I’d be delighted 

this comparison thing is irrelevant really so many different variables can affect a stat sheet etc

two different players

two different playing styles 

two different teams / set ups 

see come may

[bluebruce]

11 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Armstrong has 6 PL goals (in 88 appearances).

Dennis has 12 PL goals (in 52 appearances).

We're not playing in the PL, we're playing in the Championship. Where Armstrong's last 3 seasons are:

46 games, 21 goals

40 games, 28 goals

46 games, 16 goals

And Dennis' record is 19 games, 4 goals.

Armstrong's pace lets him really shred teams in this league in a way he can't in the Prem. Also worth mentioning in those seasons he totalled 24 assists. Dennis got none. In fact Dennis' entire career total of assists is 24. And his career total of goals is 52, in all competitions. Armstrong got 65 in those three seasons in this league, the one we play in.

Dennis has genuine quality and could be a real asset for us. But he also hasn't played since last April, and Armstrong is a monster in this league. Anything could happen, but if Armstrong signs for WBA I'm pretty confident he'll score more than Dennis.

Edited 3 hours ago by bluebruce

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Diallo got Sunderland into the Playoffs.

That’s like saying any teams top performer means the manager influence is irrelevant - silly 

pep didn’t win the league - haaland did 

[Exiled_Rover]

27 minutes ago, den said:

Like others, this window did highlight one thing. Eustace outlined what he wanted at least a couple of months ago. However we ended up foraging around on the last day of the window looking to bring in players that no one else wanted. 
 

Nothing has changed. It’s still an unorganised shitshow.

Honestly I think it's just that there's literally no money being released into the club.

Gestede is wildly underqualified for the role, but even someone like Broughton (who was a good DoF in my opinion) was repeatedly made to look like a fool by the owners and their men on the ground who nixed deals behind his back and withdrew funds. 

You can't operate like that.

[bluebruce]

4 minutes ago, Gav Mac said:

Ahead of his loan move? Surely he failed their medical and that’s that? Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a crock but why the flexibility?

Failing a medical doesn't mean you're not allowed to sign. It's just advisory for the club (and I guess it might mean you can't insure them?). They've clearly decided they're willing to take the risk on him, knowing he will be out briefly, and let him rest and come back.

[Exiled_Rover]

11 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Compare championship records

I don't think Dennis has ever scored more than 10 in a league season in England 

I'm comparing a higher level of football to indicate one player is more talented than the other - isn't that relevant?

[wilsdenrover]

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2025/february/04/emmanuel-eager-to-excite-at-ewood-/

[Blow-in]

2 hours ago, Rogerb said:

So to summarise one punt and four on short term deals who will be gone in the summer and need replacing again and so the roundabout carries on and it's not a magic one. The surprising event was that they actually managed to get two loan deals through in the last hour before eleven.

I disagree, it is a magic one. It makes all my hopes disappear.