January Transfer window

[roverandout]

If venkys don't invest some money this January then it's obvious they don't want promotion and there's some underlining things going on behind the scenes. Best not to speculate what they are 

[CambridgeRover]

4 hours ago, roverandout said:

If venkys don't invest some money this January then it's obvious they don't want promotion and there's some underlining things going on behind the scenes. Best not to speculate what they are 

Mowbray had us 2nd and they gave him nothing. JDT was in the playoffs and they gave him nothing.

What is there to still work out?

[Paul Mani]

35 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Mowbray had us 2nd and they gave him nothing. JDT was in the playoffs and they gave him nothing.

What is there to still work out?

Both good points…the only difference this year is that the club is in profit. I’m not sure that changes anything but if they were to put the ‘usual’ £11m in, that would easily finance the window.

[roversfan99]

18 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Both good points…the only difference this year is that the club is in profit. I’m not sure that changes anything but if they were to put the ‘usual’ £11m in, that would easily finance the window.

It doesnt, because they have clearly been keen to further slash the budget.

But the profit will be in the June 2024 accounts relating to the Wharton sale and it wil be those accounts that likely show a small profit, not the 2025 ones. Even with the Szmodics sale (predominantly all profit considering his amortised value would have been comparatively small) in the 2025 accounts, we will almost certainly make a loss.

Either way, if any reasonable % of that was to be made available, it would have been by now.

[Andy]

Was there not something around the FFP cycles giving us a bit of wriggle room this season, or did I imagine that?

If it is true, combined with our league position, manager's performance, increased attendances (recently) and the fortune made from player sales.

There really is no excuse.

[simongarnerisgod]

i hope james hill is being considered,centre back who is equally good at right back,he has`nt played a minute for bournemouth so surely he must be hoping to get away for  the 2nd half of the season

[Theaxe15]

2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

i hope james hill is being considered,centre back who is equally good at right back,he has`nt played a minute for bournemouth so surely he must be hoping to get away for  the 2nd half of the season

Started against Fulham on Sunday 

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, Theaxe15 said:

Started against Fulham on Sunday 

i stand corrected,i did`nt know that

[Ossydave]

Got a good assist too. As much as I'd welcome Hill, I'd say it's very unlikely. 

[wilsdenrover]

13 minutes ago, Andy said:

Was there not something around the FFP cycles giving us a bit of wriggle room this season, or did I imagine that?

If it is true, combined with our league position, manager's performance, increased attendances (recently) and the fortune made from player sales.

There really is no excuse.

22/23 losses = £20.8 million

23/24 profit = £1.8 million

Loss ‘available’ for 2024/25 = £20 million

(It isn’t quite that simple as the accounts will include expenses which aren’t counted for FFP) 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Got a good assist too. As much as I'd welcome Hill, I'd say it's very unlikely. 

He’s a very good player. A loan back here would do him more good than the odd game for Bournemouth. A bit like we did with Van Hecke.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He’s a very good player. A loan back here would do him more good than the odd game for Bournemouth. A bit like we did with Van Hecke.

Who do you drop if Hill came in though?

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Who do you drop if Hill came in though?

play him at right back and slot him in at centre back if needed,put brittain at left back (where he`s played well before)and push beck forwards,pickering is`nt coming back for a few months

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

play him at right back and slot him in at centre back if needed,put brittain at left back (where he`s played well before)and push beck forwards,pickering is`nt coming back for a few months

Fair enough, imaginative.

Don't fancy Brittain at LB personally.

[roversfan99]

30 minutes ago, Andy said:

Was there not something around the FFP cycles giving us a bit of wriggle room this season, or did I imagine that?

If it is true, combined with our league position, manager's performance, increased attendances (recently) and the fortune made from player sales.

There really is no excuse.

We are absolutely nowhere near FFP limits. The Wharton sale will count as pure profit and the Szmodics sale will be predominantly profit.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Who do you drop if Hill came in though?

Good question, but at some point both of the centre halves will need a break.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Good question, but at some point both of the centre halves will need a break.

Not that it's likely anyway but he's not going to come unless he's an automatic selection (subject to form) I wouldn't have thought

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

15 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Not that it's likely anyway but he's not going to come unless he's an automatic selection (subject to form) I wouldn't have thought

Yeah, probably.

[wilsdenrover]

34 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We are absolutely nowhere near FFP limits. The Wharton sale will count as pure profit and the Szmodics sale will be predominantly profit.

As I posted earlier, we have around £20 million pound losses ‘available’ for 24/25.

This includes the Wharton sale.

It doesn’t include the Sammie sale nor the additional Raya money.

The £1.8 million profit in 23/24 followed a £22.9 million profit on player sales - this equates to a pre player sale loss of £21.1 million.

This suggests to me the ‘wriggle room’ equates to roughly the fee we received for Sammie + the Raya money (oh and the fee for Gallagher)

Or as you said far more succinctly (😁) we’re nowhere near the FFP limits.

 

Edited Wednesday at 21:51 by wilsdenrover

[Ossydave]

52 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

play him at right back and slot him in at centre back if needed,put brittain at left back (where he`s played well before)and push beck forwards,pickering is`nt coming back for a few months

He won't be coming but I'd rather push Brittain forward than play him at left back. He's the best crosser of the ball at the club - he wouldn't be on the left.

[roversfan99]

19 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

As I posted earlier, we have around £20 million pound losses ‘available’ for 24/25.

This includes the Wharton sale.

It doesn’t include the Sammie sale nor the additional Raya money.

The £1.8 million profit in 23/24 followed a £22.9 million profit on player sales - this equates to a pre player sale loss of £21.1 million.

This suggests to me the ‘wriggle room’ equates to roughly the fee we received for Sammie + the Raya money (oh and the fee for Gallagher)

Or as you said far more succinctly (😁) we’re nowhere near the FFP limits.

 

As you touched on too, those loss figures dont include a breakdown of exempt expenses not publically available. So we will be even further away.

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

He won't be coming but I'd rather push Brittain forward than play him at left back. He's the best crosser of the ball at the club - he wouldn't be on the left.

i don`t think there is much chance of hill coming back sadly,if he did,id`e definately find a way to fit him in,he`s a cracking player

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

play him at right back and slot him in at centre back if needed,put brittain at left back (where he`s played well before)and push beck forwards,pickering is`nt coming back for a few months

That looks like just shifting a team around to accommodate your favourites - and signing a player we don't possibly need.

[47er]

3 hours ago, CambridgeRover said:

Mowbray had us 2nd and they gave him nothing. JDT was in the playoffs and they gave him nothing.

What is there to still work out?

Yes its a perverse thing with Venkys. When we are doing OK in the League they won't give us any money because we're doing OK without it.

The idea that if they did spend we'd do even better and maybe get to the Promised Land seems to have eluded them

[Exiled_Rover]

9 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

He won't be coming but I'd rather push Brittain forward than play him at left back. He's the best crosser of the ball at the club - he wouldn't be on the left.

He'll be exactly like Beck when pushed further forward - he can 'do a job' but he's a FB for a reason.

Just sign a pacey winger - it's really not that hard.