January Transfer window

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

On 04/11/2024 at 17:53, bluebruce said:

When he was here everybody was giving Markanday dogs abuse and saying he wasn't even a League One player. As soon as he plays a couple of games I'm sure I'd be seeing comments saying 'not good enough, get rid as soon as possible' etc.

Personally I don't mind him and think he's a useful squad player (don't think his goal contribution numbers are any better than Ty's though). But that's the problem, we have lots of useful squad players up there, but nobody who can rip up the league or be a guaranteed starter we can all be happy with, so everybody throws exaggerated insults at the players we do have, because we are over-reliant on average and below average players, so we misfire too often.

That's it in a nut shell. Cantwell, Beck, Carter (at CB)  and maybe Tronstadt a apart, there isn't one other player that you could call first team standard.  The rest you'd accept as squad fillers.  Pears, Pickering, Hyam, Baath, Brittain, Travis, Buckley, Hedges, Dolan, Sigurdsson, JRC  Weiman, Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard are all in that category.  You can carry 2 or 3 in the first team but our first team has 8/9.  The squad is absolutely bereft of quality. 

And it won't improve in the January window.  

Edited November 8, 2024 by Wing Wizard Windy Miller

[roversfan99]

Some of them are pushing it to be squad player worthy. And also there is such an imbalance to them. No competent striker, no one with any pace.

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

That's it in a nut shell. Cantwell, Beck, Carter (at CB)  and maybe Tronstadt a apart, there isn't one other player that you could call first team standard.  The rest you'd accept as squad fillers.  Pears, Pickering, Hyam, Baath, Brittain, Travis, Buckley, Hedges, Dolan, Sigurdsson, JRC  Weiman, Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard are all in that category.  You can carry 2 or 3 in the first team but our first team has 8/9.  The squad is absolutely bereft of quality. 

And it won't improve in the January window.  

I think you can 'carry' (I'd call it 'afford') a bit more than that, but fundamentally I agree. If you want top 6 I suppose those numbers are more accurate though.

Think we could potentially get away with the current lot and be top 6 if we just had 2 more players of true quality. Gimme Johansson from Stoke and a Sammie Szmodics of last season and I'd say top 6 is doable with the right manager and system. A couple of true match winners.

The squad players you mention are capable of being proper regular starters...in spurts. None of them has demonstrated enough consistency and probably never will, to fit in with as you say, Beck, Tronstad, Cantwell and Carter. Personally I think Travis isn't too far off that list, but he does have little patches of being shit. But yeh when the others are in form they're good enough, it just isn't often enough. And you could say it about most players in this division who aren't regulars in the best 8 or so teams.

[Forever Blue]

12 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

That's it in a nut shell. Cantwell, Beck, Carter (at CB)  and maybe Tronstadt a apart, there isn't one other player that you could call first team standard.  The rest you'd accept as squad fillers.  Pears, Pickering, Hyam, Baath, Brittain, Travis, Buckley, Hedges, Dolan, Sigurdsson, JRC  Weiman, Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard are all in that category.  You can carry 2 or 3 in the first team but our first team has 8/9.  The squad is absolutely bereft of quality. 

And it won't improve in the January window.  

Our issues are the attack and goalkeeper position. Both are League 1 standard. The rest of the team and squad are more than adequate for bottom 6 championship team, which is where our budget is at. 

[BankEnd Rover]

Poku bagging a hatrick today for Pboro.

[Exiled_Rover]

23 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

That's it in a nut shell. Cantwell, Beck, Carter (at CB)  and maybe Tronstadt a apart, there isn't one other player that you could call first team standard.  The rest you'd accept as squad fillers.  Pears, Pickering, Hyam, Baath, Brittain, Travis, Buckley, Hedges, Dolan, Sigurdsson, JRC  Weiman, Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard are all in that category.  You can carry 2 or 3 in the first team but our first team has 8/9.  The squad is absolutely bereft of quality. 

And it won't improve in the January window.  

Maybe Tronstad? First name on the team sheet for mine. 

[DeeCee]

18 hours ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Poku bagging a hatrick today for Pboro.

2nd of the season, he won't be coming here.

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, DeeCee said:

2nd of the season, he won't be coming here.

Most of the Championship clubs will be after him probably but we should deffo try to get him..should be putting the work now to agree a deal now. 

If not I would still like to pacey left winger. 

Another centre back and striker are what we need. 

[roversfan99]

Fingers crossed a random European side will take Gueye back off our hands.

[wilsdenrover]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Fingers crossed a random European side will take Gueye back off our hands.

Maybe Stoke need another striker.

[simongarnerisgod]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Most of the Championship clubs will be after him probably but we should deffo try to get him..should be putting the work now to agree a deal now. 

If not I would still like to pacey left winger. 

Another centre back and striker are what we need. 

he`s out of contract in the summer,peterborough could sell in january for a nice fee,however,our complete lack of competence and ambition will again mean he`ll go somewhere else,i`ll be amazed if he ends up here

[Upside Down]

3 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he`s out of contract in the summer,peterborough could sell in january for a nice fee,however,our complete lack of competence and ambition will again mean he`ll go somewhere else,i`ll be amazed if he ends up here

He'll score at Ewood I'm sure.

[J*B]

9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Most of the Championship clubs will be after him probably but we should deffo try to get him..should be putting the work now to agree a deal now. 

If not I would still like to pacey left winger. 

Another centre back and striker are what we need. 

Still hoping for the best when deep down we all know the truth. It’s commendable. I’m on the other sign of the coin — who’s available for a free, or on a reduced wages 6 month loan?

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, J*B said:

Still hoping for the best when deep down we all know the truth. It’s commendable. I’m on the other sign of the coin — who’s available for a free, or on a reduced wages 6 month loan?

You have your point of view and I have mine. I would be looking to sign 3 players in January and I have said positions those are. 

[Upside Down]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You have your point of view and I have mine. I would be looking to sign 3 players in January and I have said positions those are. 

Well that is your opinion.

We won't be signing anyone of note.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

17 minutes ago, J*B said:

Still hoping for the best when deep down we all know the truth. It’s commendable. I’m on the other sign of the coin — who’s available for a free, or on a reduced wages 6 month loan?

Or which promising looking signing can we balls up at the last minute - again.

[simongarnerisgod]

39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You have your point of view and I have mine. I would be looking to sign 3 players in January and I have said positions those are. 

i think we`de all be looking at 3 players in january,it would be great,but in reality,venkys and swag are going to **** us over  again,especially if we are near the top six

[neophox]

Dolan needs to sign a contract or should be sold in january.

[Blue blood]

On 08/11/2024 at 21:33, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

That's it in a nut shell. Cantwell, Beck, Carter (at CB)  and maybe Tronstadt a apart, there isn't one other player that you could call first team standard.  The rest you'd accept as squad fillers.  Pears, Pickering, Hyam, Baath, Brittain, Travis, Buckley, Hedges, Dolan, Sigurdsson, JRC  Weiman, Ohashi, Gueye and Leonard are all in that category.  You can carry 2 or 3 in the first team but our first team has 8/9.  The squad is absolutely bereft of quality. 

And it won't improve in the January window.  

Good post. Agree with the gist of this but not sure all of those are of squad filler standard. Britain, Pears, Gueye and Hedges definitely aren't! Leonard I don't think we've seen enough of to know either way, likewise Baath. Siggy and Buckley I think have the talent to be squad players but need to show more consistency to warrant a wage here. 

You are spot on though that so many players are being asked to do a role which is too much for them. 

To paraphrase a famous quote from here "buy league one players, get league oen football."

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[bluebruce]

8 hours ago, neophox said:

Dolan needs to sign a contract or should be sold in january.

Kinda feels like there's no point selling people these days.

[rigger]

28 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Kinda feels like there's no point selling people these days.

It gets wages off the books.

[47er]

On 11/11/2024 at 08:16, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Or which promising looking signing can we balls up at the last minute - again.

Poku? Or will we get nowhere near him?

[den]

14 hours ago, Blue blood said:

To paraphrase a famous quote from here "buy league one players, get league onefootball."

Thank you 🙂
 

It is true though. Without the quality of players you have no chance. The base line is that’s its really down to them.

Edited November 13, 2024 by den

[Blue blood]

4 minutes ago, den said:

Thank you 🙂
 

It is true though. Without the quality of players you have no chance. The base line is that’s its really down to them.

You are welcome. Give it another few years and the paraphrase will be altered again, and not for the better. 

[TheRevAshton]

10 hours ago, 47er said:

Poku? Or will we get nowhere near him?

The chances of us signing Poku, are about the same as us signing Doku...

Zilch.