January Transfer window

[waynerovers]

Hahahaha, unlucky Fulham

 

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Edited Sunday at 15:28 by waynerovers

[bluebruce]

7 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So why not do the honourable thing and resign if you're Waggot? He's clearly having zero positive effect on the club, just draining £300k a year out of the coffers.

Easy question to answer- because he isn't an honourable man.

[davulsukur]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Even if the prophet Nixon says so, we dont know if they agree. But either way, it might be a case of we dont have much money, only loans, will Schlupp do? Rather than is this the player youd want if we had a reasonable budget. Might be a case of best of a bad job.

I dont get why versatility is so important. We need a winger that can score goals and has some pace and the ability to take players on and make a different in the final third. Hes more of a steady eddie utility player. 

If we need left back cover aswell, then sign a second player for that. Dont sign someone who can sort of do both but doesnt really help to solve the issues we have with a lack of quality, pace and goals in the final third.

If we sign Schlupp to cover 2 positions and Beck gets injured, Schlupp goes to left back. We then have no new winger.

Purely as a winger, do you think Schlupp gives us what we are missing?

1. Its not about Gestede's plan. Its all down to the owners and how much money they should be making available.

2. Im not saying that. The manager should have final say. But then equally, if he turns out to not be what we need, he gets the criticism. I dont think Schlupp is what we need.

3. We have made over £40m in sales in the last few years. There should be £15m easily to spend on new permanent additions (well it should have already been spent) but there wont be. Regarding names, havent a clue. Im not a scout. I think Kent could be a useful pick up though.

3 loans would not be acceptable under any circumstances. We shouldnt be scrambling around like this. There is no desire from the owners to grow the footbal club. And crucially, its not a case of spending x amount and thats lost. You then have assets to profit on in the future.

This is the main point, we'll never do anything under these owners.

[nbdrovers]

11 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Semir something or other. Apparently tearing up the German fourth tier.

scored 5 in 13 in 2.Bundesliga this season tbf to the lad

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, nbdrovers said:

scored 5 in 13 in 2.Bundesliga this season tbf to the lad

Glad to see he's doing well. I thought he was hard done to here, but two separate managers didn't fancy him so it is what it is. 

[nbdrovers]

5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Glad to see he's doing well. I thought he was hard done to here, but two separate managers didn't fancy him so it is what it is. 

always wondered if it was more he just didn't settle and wanted to go home 

[chaddyrovers]

24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Even if the prophet Nixon says so, we dont know if they agree. But either way, it might be a case of we dont have much money, only loans, will Schlupp do? Rather than is this the player youd want if we had a reasonable budget. Might be a case of best of a bad job.

If you have nothing to show that they don't then let's go with what has been said. 

I think Schlupp would be reasonable signing, cover 2 or 3 positions, experience, played in the championship before. 

24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont get why versatility is so important. We need a winger that can score goals and has some pace and the ability to take players on and make a different in the final third. Hes more of a steady eddie utility player. 

cos of Pickering being out till March at least, so how do you not understand that versatility is needed in a playing squad. 

24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If we need left back cover aswell, then sign a second player for that. Dont sign someone who can sort of do both but doesnt really help to solve the issues we have with a lack of quality, pace and goals in the final third.

All depends how many players we can sign within the budget. The way you talk you would 3 deep every position and a budget that be over budget 

24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If we sign Schlupp to cover 2 positions and Beck gets injured, Schlupp goes to left back. We then have no new winger.

Purely as a winger, do you think Schlupp gives us what we are missing?

I think Schlupp can add some thing to the squad for the reason above. 

[London blue]

I bloody hate the transfer window. 

I'd take Schlupp to add to a depleted squad but alongside at least one more attacking wide player, but you can bet your bottom dollar he would be our marquee signing.

Seems like there's interest from plenty of other teams, too. I can't see him fancying Lancashire, anyway. 

[Nic81]

Looks like there are bids for Doak. Hopefully some of our rivals might lose key players for a change. 

[BankEnd Rover]

12 minutes ago, London blue said:

I bloody hate the transfer window. 

I'd take Schlupp to add to a depleted squad but alongside at least one more attacking wide player, but you can bet your bottom dollar he would be our marquee signing.

Seems like there's interest from plenty of other teams, too. I can't see him fancying Lancashire, anyway. 

He's interest from the MLS, you'd think at his age he'd head that way.

[bluebruce]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

If you have nothing to show that they don't then let's go with what has been said. 

That's not how it works. Famously, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, not the one disproving it (at least not until the initial claim is proven). This is because it's generally impossible to prove a negative.

I refer you to my previous post where I said I could claim we're pursuing Borja Sainz. It's impossible to prove we're not even though I don't have any proof we are (just like Nicko doesn't). By your logic we would just go off what has been said and assume we are after Borja Sainz.

I could make any kind of claim, no matter how ridiculous (eg, Waggott has only got one bollock, or Balaji Rao is actually Elon Musk with a Mission Impossible style face mask) and the same logic applies.

[bluebruce]

13 minutes ago, Nic81 said:

Looks like there are bids for Doak. Hopefully some of our rivals might lose key players for a change. 

Sadly, they'll then spend money on replacements.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

Actually, the quote came from several people who worked for them. I just passed on what had been said…but don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story, hey? 

Beep beep beep .....Caution ..........Mani reversing..........Beep beep beep...........

[Rover1984]

18 minutes ago, Nic81 said:

Looks like there are bids for Doak. Hopefully some of our rivals might lose key players for a change. 

Top 10 championship teams are constantly losing key players. Massive difference is they are paying a chunk of that fee to get a replacement. On the other hand we get a freebie

Edited Sunday at 16:25 by Rover1984

[JHRover]

Rivals will lose key players because that's the nature of the beast in being a Championship club. No issues with that. 

But other clubs reluctantly lose those players, then go about dealing with their departures by investing the proceeds to strengthen or replace those departing.

A bloke like Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough will ensure that he supports his manager as far as possible and that there's a plan for reinvestment. 

Here?

[Exiled_Rover]

8 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

He's interest from the MLS, you'd think at his age he'd head that way.

He's just not the type of player we need. It's a sticking plaster (an expensive one if he wants a permanent contract at the end of the loan when he's 33) at best.

[bluebruce]

4 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

What if they’re where they want to be?

The car in question is on a hill, and if they don't at least fix the handbrake it will slide backwards.

[Nic81]

18 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Sadly, they'll then spend money on replacements.

Let’s hope it’s the last day of the window then…

Also, we are usually losing them at the same time. Would be nice if we could add! 

Edited Sunday at 16:38 by Nic81

[Exiled_Rover]

2 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

The car in question is on a hill, and if they don't at least fix the handbrake it will slide backwards.

No problem - they sold the wheels and the engine over the last few years. It was rusting anyway after 15 years of neglect. 

[Rover1984]

4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's just not the type of player we need. It's a sticking plaster (an expensive one if he wants a permanent contract at the end of the loan when he's 33) at best.

Would put him in the same bracket as Downing. Do well for 6 months and go backwards once full contract is received 

Edited Sunday at 16:32 by Rover1984

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

1. Its not about Gestede's plan. Its all down to the owners and how much money they should be making available.

Owners have told them what is available and Gestede, Owen and Eustace have to find the best way to bring in what Eustace wants this window

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

2. Im not saying that. The manager should have final say. But then equally, if he turns out to not be what we need, he gets the criticism. I dont think Schlupp is what we need.

Yes I think you have made your feelings very clear on Schlupp

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

3. We have made over £40m in sales in the last few years. There should be £15m easily to spend on new permanent additions (well it should have already been spent) but there wont be. Regarding names, havent a clue. Im not a scout. I think Kent could be a useful pick up though.

Yes we all like money to be spent in the summer more like I would have like Dembele coming in and for us to go for Tommy Conway when he was leaving Bristol City before he joined Boro or go for Jay Stansfield from Fulham who went to Birmingham for record money in league 1 or Brandon Thomas Asante who joined Coventry from WBA. But we did. 

similar in this window, I would like us to go and secure Poku from Peterborough now. I would like us to buy a striker now. Sam Surridge from Nashvilla or Riis from PNE now, but I'm not the owner or work at Rovers(sadly)

I will name 4 players who have championship experience who we could sign on loan or cheap fee deal, Forest striker Dennis, Riis From PNE, Frey at QPR and Brewster at Sheffield United

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

3 loans would not be acceptable under any circumstances. We shouldnt be scrambling around like this. There is no desire from the owners to grow the footbal club. And crucially, its not a case of spending x amount and thats lost. You then have assets to profit on in the future.

But we are. We can say otherwise but they don't want to. So we have deal with the current decision made by the club and the circumstances of it

Edited Sunday at 16:32 by chaddyrovers

[roversfan99]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Owners have told them what is available and Gestede, Owen and Eustace have to find the best way to bring in what Eustace wants this window

Yes I think you have made your feelings very clear on Schlupp

Yes we all like money to be spent in the summer more like I would have like Dembele coming in and for us to go for Tommy Conway when he was leaving Bristol City before he joined Boro or go for Jay Stansfield from Fulham who went to Birmingham for record money in league 1 or Brandon Thomas Asante who joined Coventry from WBA. But we did. 

similar in this window, I would like us to go and secure Poku from Peterborough now. I would like us to buy a striker now. Sam Surridge from Nashvilla or Riis from PNE now, but I'm not the owner or work at Rovers(sadly)

I will name 4 players who have championship experience who we could sign on loan or cheap fee deal, Forest striker Dennis, Riis From PNE, Frey at QPR and Brewster at Sheffield United

But we are. We can say otherwise but they don't want to. So we have deal with the current decision made by the club and the circumstances of it

Its one of them. I cant personally get excited about which Palace veteran utility man we might sign or which QPR squad player we could sign.

Because fundamentally, I know that working under such meagre resources will see us fall away, I know it isnt enough. History backs up that suggestion, the squad is already buckling. And longer term, it leaves us with big issues in the summer.

Do I think Schlupp solves one of the problems we have at the moment? No.

[MB Rover]

We are so unimaginative and boring in our transfer approach. Even if we don’t spend money, there’s ways to get round that with savvy, low money, investments. We simply don’t do enough with the limited resources we do have. Old, aging, slow players on 6/12 month deals. Sunderland are doing okay without the need for ‘championship experience’

 

[Mashed Potatoes]

52 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Rivals will lose key players because that's the nature of the beast in being a Championship club. No issues with that. 

But other clubs reluctantly lose those players, then go about dealing with their departures by investing the proceeds to strengthen or replace those departing.

A bloke like Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough will ensure that he supports his manager as far as possible and that there's a plan for reinvestment. 

Here?

Given all this support for the manager and plans for reinvestment how many of the last 15 years have Steve Gibson's Middlesbrough spent in the Premier League ?

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Given all this support for the manager and plans for reinvestment how many of the last 15 years have Steve Gibson's Middlesbrough spent in the Premier League ?

They haven't spent any years in League 1 or battling to stave off relegation that's for sure.

Unlike us.

Edited Sunday at 17:31 by RevidgeBlue