January Transfer window

[lraC]

4 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

JE doesn’t take any shit by the sounds of it. His stock is high and he can call the shots to an extent. But he’s not stupid enough to go toe to toe with his employers like JDT. His messaging is much more subtle and controlled.

Schlupp and Kent are JE picks if ever I’ve seen them. I’d give him what he wants, one things for sure, he won’t be short of job offers  now, if we do completely mess up the window again! 

I think JDT was relatively controlled for a while, whilst still getting his point across especially in the press. This seems to be how Eustace is right now.

I have a feeling he will blow though, if he gets badly let down this window and it already feels like he is getting his point across in the press, as we have seen with the list.

In the event of him leaving due to not being backed, the new man will be wheeled in, fans given another round of what direction we are heading in and away we go again.

Plenty have said Suhail needs to be targeted if change is to be brought about and I think we saw how he reacted when called out by the trust, so I do agree with that and perhaps another vote of no confidence being threatened needs to take place, if the above, does play out. 

[Lancaster Rover]

On to the topic of linked names, Ryan Kent is similar to Dolan without the industry. Lots of stationary step overs before passing the ball sideways and backward.

[Exiled_Rover]

10 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Tbf, in hindsight it would have been the right move. Only because we failed to reach the playoffs and lost him for free anyway. But at the time it was a tough decision. It could have gone exactly how it did, or Rothwell could have proved the difference for us and got us promoted.

The reason it went how it did is probably partly due to Rothwell's shitty attitude and application after he didn't get his move. Something that tbf the manager would have been best placed to predict. So he should probably have been backed there.

(Obviously the ideal scenario would've been keeping him, and Venkys not being pricks and actually backing the manager with funds...hell who knows if they'd have even done that if they had approved the sale.)

Honestly it was always the right decision to sell him.

Yes he was an important player for us (up until that point) but they'd spoken about how tight budgets were and how we had to be a trading club for years. Bournemouth were offering well above his market value and he had 6 months left on his contract. It should have been an easy sell.

Easier too if those inside Brockhall had any inkling that he was going to down tools for 6 months. 

Similar to the BBD situation (and the Dolan situation now) - you simply can't let First Team players run their contracts down. It's bad business.

[Exiled_Rover]

57 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

On to the topic of linked names, Ryan Kent is similar to Dolan without the industry. Lots of stationary step overs before passing the ball sideways and backward.

Much, much quicker though.

[BankEnd Rover]

Dolan works hard and defensively does his deeds but it's really not difficult to better him offensively.

We need 2 signings in this week, both ready to start against pompey. Other clubs are making signing so there is NO excuse from the club.

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

If JE isn't backed in this window surely even the most deluded Venky backers will finally see them for what they are.

 

[JHRover]

Aha so the McGuire transfer breakdown might not have been an 'admin error' as claimed at the time but it seems now there is a story emerging that it was actually because the 'powers' had started or already lost faith in JDT / Broughton and refused to sanction it.

Who would have thought it?

I remember suggesting it was a deliberate refusal to sanction it and yet the Venkygraph and many supporters were out insisting that it was all because somebody forgot to press send, Ian Silvester was to blame and the evidence of that was his departure from the club.

All not as it seems perhaps.

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I remember you referring to JE offering to resign a while ago with no explanation as to the context.

If true about the £5m being withdrawn from JDT why did they then press ahead with a loan deal for Mcguire - did they know it was going to be scuttled in advance or was it a genuine cock up?

Also if they later agreed to advance Eustace £5m in summer and then backed out - is that not them going rogue or does Suhail have virtual autonomy over the budget in line with my original question.

Either way if JE did offer to resign twice that's two managers in a row now and the whole situation is completely untenable , he won't be here long.

Bearing in mind what Paul has reported is it any wonder JE’s name is in the frame for every managers job that becomes available ? Pro  Football is a very small world. If Paul knows the story most chairman in this league will also  be well aware of the situation.

How can anybody work for these clowns and be successful ? He’ll be aware before they tarnish his reputation like they did with JDT.

Edited Monday at 08:59 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[roversfan99]

I cant believe that all of that has just been taken as fact.

[Exiled_Rover]

17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Aha so the McGuire transfer breakdown might not have been an 'admin error' as claimed at the time but it seems now there is a story emerging that it was actually because the 'powers' had started or already lost faith in JDT / Broughton and refused to sanction it.

Who would have thought it?

I remember suggesting it was a deliberate refusal to sanction it and yet the Venkygraph and many supporters were out insisting that it was all because somebody forgot to press send, Ian Silvester was to blame and the evidence of that was his departure from the club.

All not as it seems perhaps.

 

I don't think the O'Brien transfer breakdown was an admin error either - someone saw the future fee (£10m on promotion) and nixed it.

We had McGuire in the building and sorted, having had to agree to pay more money after the initial move was scuppered. I think Broughton went rogue here and they fired him soon afterwards. 

[MarkBRFC]

Just on the McGuire thing, I genuinely can't believe that there are still people out there that think the transfer didn't go ahead because somebody forgot to press send.

[CD_93]

Nixon reckons we want Hanley back

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Lancaster Rover said:

On to the topic of linked names, Ryan Kent is similar to Dolan without the industry. Lots of stationary step overs before passing the ball sideways and backward.

There’s a lot of it about.

[Exiled_Rover]

10 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Me too. He didn’t do enough often enough for me. He’d have a good 20 minutes in a game. He didn’t do much for Leeds when I’ve seen him recently.

He was a 70 minute man and you could tell very early on in a game whether he'd been told he was expected to play the full 90. If he'd been given that instruction, he often went hiding for 20 minutes - it was like clockwork.

Similar to how you could tell whether Emerton was going to have a good game by his first encounter with the opposing LB. If he could knock it past them and run he'd have a stormer. If they matched him stride for stride he'd spend the rest of the game passing it backwards and sideways. 

[BankEnd Rover]

9 minutes ago, CD_93 said:

Nixon reckons we want Hanley back

Eh 😂

[Exiled_Rover]

9 minutes ago, CD_93 said:

Nixon reckons we want Hanley back

For what purpose?

[Scoobydo]

15 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

apparently eustace went beserk at cantwell for his lazy offside and immediately after doing his press interviews went straight to gestede about "players,budgets and other stuff" rudi is now in charge of recruitment by all accounts,swag was nowhere to be seen after the final whistle,probably scoffing the left overs from the boardroom buffet,eustace is happy with the job and his players but definately wants 2/3 incomings ,he`s very easy going usually but can get quite testy if he does`nt get his own way on football matters

Wish I had such vivid dreams. 

[TheRevAshton]

Really hope we sign a fast, tricky and effective left-winger in this window - someone like that Ibrahim Cissoko who's on loan at Plymouth would be perfect. He absolutely ripped us up earlier in the season when we played them.

[Tugayisgod]

13 minutes ago, CD_93 said:

Nixon reckons we want Hanley back

I know we needed experience in the last window but ffs this is turning out to dads army.

Just can't see this being true

[Mike E]

12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Middlesbrough come in for Dolan in this window, offering £3-4m. 

Eustace wants to sell and buy a couple of players, knowing he has a minimal budget otherwise, bur the owners refuse. Dolan stays, we arent selling him to a rival, he will leave for free in the summer instead.

Eustace then admits to the media that he is annoyed that he wasnt allowed to do it.

Would you agree with the owners and think that Eustace is wrong?

Based on his reaction to that exact scenario with Rothwell and Bournemouth and Mowbray a few years ago, he’d (quite rightly) back Eustace.

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Based on his reaction to that exact scenario with Rothwell and Bournemouth and Mowbray a few years ago, he’d (quite rightly) back Eustace.

He backed the owners so he had the quite opposite reaction regarding Rothwell. At least now Mowbray has gone and like with Tomasson he went from agreeing with them to suddenly blaming them for many things.

I suspect he would back Eustace if the Dolan scenario happened. Until Eustace left when he would look back and decide to point the finger.

17 minutes ago, CD_93 said:

Nixon reckons we want Hanley back

Hes linked us a few times to him I think in recent years and it didnt happen.

[RevidgeBlue]

22 minutes ago, CD_93 said:

Nixon reckons we want Hanley back

Friend of mine who knows Grant quite well said we were after him 3 or 4 years ago but at that point the owners weren't prepared to give him the length of contract he needed.

He's younger than Batth and a lot of people have been saying we need cover at CB so again (as with Schlupp) at the right price I can't see the problem  long as there's still enough to fill the priority positions of a quality striker and winger.

[TheRevAshton]

I'm actually not entirely against the idea of bringing Hanley back as cover - experienced players like him can play a huge part in ending the season well, especially important with play-offs a possibility.

[CambridgeRover]

30 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

For what purpose?

Court jester

[Exiled_Rover]

10 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

I'm actually not entirely against the idea of bringing Hanley back as cover - experienced players like him can play a huge part in ending the season well, especially important with play-offs a possibility.

He's not very good. We have experienced players in Hyam, Batth and S. Wharton. If we're investing at CB we either need to see what the highly rated Academy CBs can do or go and buy a young one from L1.