January Transfer window

[47er]

12 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's not very good.

That's true I'm afraid. Not exactly a star at Norwich these days.

What on earth are we sinking to? This is hardly a club seeking to build on an unexpectedly good start is it?

"I'm off to Ewood, have you heard?----Grant's back."

That link with the teenage Reading star didn't last long did it?

Edited Monday at 10:07 by 47er

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

12 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's not very good. We have experienced players in Hyam, Batth and S. Wharton. If we're investing at CB we either need to see what the highly rated Academy CBs can do or go and buy a young one from L1. 

I think I agree with that. We’ve got enough old heads in the centre back position. Carter will be back soon. We just need to get some younger players in.

[sharpysharps86]

Hanley?? Really??? Crikey.

Didn't realise he was 33 either. We already have Batth and McFadzean as the super experienced types, and I'd say Batth is probably a better defender than Hanley anyway.

[Claytons Left Boot]

2 hours ago, lraC said:

In the event of him leaving due to not being backed, the new man will be wheeled in, fans given another round of what direction we are heading in and away we go again.

Plenty have said Suhail needs to be targeted if change is to be brought about and I think we saw how he reacted when called out by the trust, so I do agree with that and perhaps another vote of no confidence being threatened needs to take place, if the above, does play out. 

Absolutely spot on. Waggott and Suhail must be pissing their sides in the knowledge that there isn’t a set of supporters like those down at Ewood anywhere in England.

Whatever downsizing measures they bring in, Jackanory stories about fax machines and not pressing send buttons, utter bullcrap on transfer budgets, etc. etc., the fans do next to nothing. They (the hierarchy at the club) couldn’t have it any easier.

Where is the youth of Blackburn and East Lancashire? These should be the ones with the energy and drive to do something about this continued mess. Problem is, the ones who know all about the shenanigans that went on, ten or more years ago, have been brow beaten almost into submission and the younger fan base, who must be the ones to bring about change, don’t really know what went on.

Unless something is done, the status quo will remain. I know the hand wringers will be replying to this post within minutes but I can virtually guarantee one thing. Five, even ten years from now, folk will still be bleating about the situation which will not have changed one bit.

[JHRover]

I'm hoping that this is a case of Hanley's agent, mates with Nixon, is trying to engineer him a move from Norwich knowing that he is falling out of favour there and he fancies a move back North and reckons he can get a year or two from the Venky regime.

I can't see any other explanation for it, unless we are selling Hyam/Carter though surely the latter unlikely given he hasn't played for months.

[davulsukur]

Bring back Hanley?? 😂😂 how very Venkys Rovers.

From a perspective that he's a short term stop gap, to get us through the rest of the season, knowing we'll have Carter and Wharton back next season (or earlier in Carters case), then i can kinda see it.

It would, surely, make more sense to bring in a young, up and coming centre back on a long term deal? Bit of cover for now and a potentially a first team centre back in the future.

[MB Rover]

But Eustace Owen and Rudy all agreed it and know what we need so everyone needs to shut their mouths.

 

[roversfan99]

7 hours ago, islander200 said:

I'd agree over his entire rovers career he did flatter to deceive however in that season where we were second going into January just above Bournemouth Rothwell had been one of our better players, his drive and industry from midfield had been pivotal and when he gave up our form as a whole took a down turn. 

In normal circumstances you would look to take the money for a player with 6 months left and reinvest it on a replacement but in my oopinion you shouldn't be selling to the team placed directly below you in 3rd place with more than half the season gone.

A gamble was taken that Rothwell would knuckle down but unfortunately it looks like he sulked and downed tools instead 

if they had have allowed a replacement for him, it wouldn't have been a player of similar ability it would have been a downgrade.Talk of Jed Wallace pie in the sky, wouldn't have paid his wages that others would offer, and he ended up leaving on a free in the summer anyway because Millwall wanted too much money for him that January 

 

Its not about the individuals in question. Thats the main point.

You let the footballing people (manager and if you have one a director of football) make the decisions and the owners job is to provide the budget. They are better placed to make those decisions. If you dont trust them, get rid. If you do and their decisions are wrong, you get rid. 

The decision turned out to be the wrong one. It was compounded because if you go with the approach of keeping Rothwell, you provide reasonable funds without having to sell him. They didnt do that either. So we couldnt really strengthen, as we couldnt in the subsequent 2 winter windows, and each time our results dipped.

[RoversClitheroe]

26 minutes ago, 47er said:

That link with the teenage Reading star didn't last long did it?

Be stupid if we pass on this Reading lad for Hanley.

A few of my mates reckon he's the next best thing. (Bearing in mind they've produced Olise, Sigurdson etc)

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Bring back Hanley?? 😂😂 how very Venkys Rovers.

From a perspective that he's a short term stop gap, to get us through the rest of the season, knowing we'll have Carter and Wharton back next season (or earlier in Carters case), then i can kinda see it.

It would, surely, make more sense to bring in a young, up and coming centre back on a long term deal? Bit of cover for now and a potentially a first team centre back in the future.

We did that with O Riordan and that went well. 

I can't see the problem with Hanley if it's a loan until the end of the season.

Until Carter gets back, who comes in if one of the 2 CB's get injured? I think with the benefit of hindsight extending Mcfadzean's deal was a poor decision.

Again, it all hinges on how well we do with the striker and winger positions. If we did well there then I'd be happy with Schlupp and Hanley on loan to bolster the squad.

I'm very skeptical whether we will do well with the 2 main positions but you see my point.

[MB Rover]

Just a point on Suhail, straight from the horses mouth, the reason Lenihan didn’t sign his bumper contract at Rovers was because of ‘those two cunts in the ivory tower who expect you to kiss their shoes as you walk in’. Will let you decide which two people that is. Everything from renewals, to match day expenses go through him.

On a funnier note, their initial contract offer to him was for less money than he was currently on, but with an extra year on it (4) compared to what he wanted (3) and they tried to spin it as him being better off because of it.  

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

Be stupid if we pass on this Reading lad for Hanley.

A few of my mates reckon he's the next best thing. (Bearing in mind they've produced Olise, Sigurdson etc)

So who are you dropping if he comes in? Hyam or Batth?

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2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So who are you dropping if he comes in? Hyam or Batth?

Id say he's gonna have to do some extensive training to fit in to how we've been playing I wouldn't want to separate them now after the season they having with Brittain in there too they've been great

Edited Monday at 10:37 by ...

[MB Rover]

I see we’ve been caught napping again, crying out for pace, goals and creativity out wide,

Louie Barry going to Derby on loan… 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

19 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Hanley?? Really??? Crikey.

Didn't realise he was 33 either. We already have Batth and McFadzean as the super experienced types, and I'd say Batth is probably a better defender than Hanley anyway.

I’d agree with that. Hanley was never far from dropping a clanger.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So who are you dropping if he comes in? Hyam or Batth?

It’s not about that, the lad will be one the bench to start with.  What if one of our starting two gets injured or a red card. Or we decide three at the back is a good idea.

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, MB Rover said:

Just a point on Suhail, straight from the horses mouth, the reason Lenihan didn’t sign his bumper contract at Rovers was because of ‘those two cunts in the ivory tower who expect you to kiss their shoes as you walk in’. Will let you decide which two people that is. Everything from renewals, to match day expenses go through him.

On a funnier note, their initial contract offer to him was for less money than he was currently on, but with an extra year on it (4) compared to what he wanted (3) and they tried to spin it as him being better off because of it.  

So without wishing to defend them, although roverfan99 wont have it, that sounds like Waghail playing silly buggers (I'm tempted to use a far stronger word) as opposed to any direct involvement of the owners.

When you say "didn't sign his bumper contract" do I take it he was offered a decent deal eventually but by that stage they'd pissed him off beyond the point of no return?

[BankEnd Rover]

4 minutes ago, MB Rover said:

I see we’ve been caught napping again, crying out for pace, goals and creativity out wide,

Louie Barry going to Derby on loan… 

Is Louie Barry really that good? I mean he is probably better than what we've got but there's a lot of hype over a player who's yet to be proven in the championship. He doesn't seem that quick either. 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It’s not about that, the lad will be one the bench to start with.  What if one of our starting two gets injured or a red card. Or we decide three at the back is a good idea.

I know, I just can't see this Reading lad being prepared to come here to sit on the bench if he's as good as everyone says.

Edit: Then when everyone's fit he's got to compete with Hyam/Carter/Wharton/Batth/ and to a lesser extent O'Riordan.

Edited Monday at 10:49 by RevidgeBlue

[MB Rover]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So without wishing to defend them, although roverfan99 wont have it, that sounds like Waghail playing silly buggers (I'm tempted to use a far stronger word) as opposed to any direct involvement of the owners.

When you say "didn't sign his bumper contract" do I take it he was offered a decent deal eventually but by that stage they'd pissed him off beyond the point of no return?

Yeah he was eventually offered a ‘big’ contract by our standards in the summer that he left. It was upwards of 20k a week but not sure exact figures. Easily beaten by Boro mind. He wanted to stay the entire time, the talks were opened in the January of that year but after that initial offer it was game over really.

[MB Rover]

6 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Is Louie Barry really that good? I mean he is probably better than what we've got but there's a lot of hype over a player who's yet to be proven in the championship. He doesn't seem that quick either. 

15 goals in 23 games from the wing.

I’d take Gareth Barry over our set of wingers never mind Louie. Have you seen his goal catalogue this year? 

[TheRevAshton]

Saw that Villa are likely to recall Samuel Iling-Junior from his loan at Bologna since he isn't getting enough game time.

If we have any ambition, we should be looking to bring him in on loan for the rest of the season.

[islander200]

11 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Is Louie Barry really that good? I mean he is probably better than what we've got but there's a lot of hype over a player who's yet to be proven in the championship. He doesn't seem that quick either. 

Exactly this.

Unproven youngster at championship level and he is going to a team where he is likely to start every week 

[islander200]

5 minutes ago, MB Rover said:

15 goals in 23 games from the wing.

I’d take Gareth Barry over our set of wingers never mind Louie. Have you seen his goal catalogue this year? 

At league one. 

Why is he going to Derby?

[RevidgeBlue]

I can't understand why most people think the likes of Schlupp and Hanley are not good enough as cover, maybe even only on a temporary basis, but Ryan Hedges is and deserves a contract extension.

I must be living in some sort of parallel universe where in the other one Hedges is decent.