v Sheffield Utd (h) - 2/11/2024

[London blue]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 No I not disappointed cos it was always going to be tough and difficult game against a very good squad at this level and good manager in Wilder at this level

You predicted a 2-0 win.

[Mercer]

18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Can I please asked what was Eustace during the Q and A? 

what else did he say? 

Said he's an avid reader of BRFCS and had been impressed with a Chaddyrovers whose thoughts very much mirrored his own.  Expect a job offer soon!

[Mattyblue]

27 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Has the Q&A been reported anywhere? Was it a fans forum event? Did he say anything else of note? 

If the Puney Tunes are still under a financial embargo come January I doubt we’ll be signing anyone. 
 

 

Q & A run by Rovers, a fairly big event at a normal club you’d say, yet no article or even nod that it happened on the website. 

Shell of a club.
 

[sharpysharps86]

1 hour ago, RoversTilliDie said:

If we play like that Wednesday, Stoke are on a purple patch after winning yesterday.

That was their first win in 5. Granted they'd also only lost 1 in 5 in that spell, but I'm not sure you can call it a purple patch either.

Either way, a win is simply a must because Cardiff (who we play on Saturday) are definitely on a good run.

[RoverTheWorst]

18 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Probs why I didn’t mention him….unless I’m missing a joke!

My bad, thought you said Hayden but it was Hyam, I’ll get my glasses for next time 

[arbitro]

44 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Has the Q&A been reported anywhere? Was it a fans forum event? Did he say anything else of note? 

If the Puney Tunes are still under a financial embargo come January I doubt we’ll be signing anyone. 
 

 

It was organised by the Community Trust and there were many questions to Eustace about his career, aspirations and that sort of thing. There was a question which referenced the owners and Eustace said he had never spoken to them (I seem to remember Tomasson saying something similar) and that his dealings are with Waggott and Suhail.

[arbitro]

17 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Q & A run by Rovers, a fairly big event at a normal club you’d say, yet no article or even nod that it happened on the website. 

Shell of a club.
 

It was advertised but no follow up from what I can see.

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2024/october/20/eustace-looking-forward-to-meeting-supporters-at-q-a---tickets-are-still-available-/

[tomphil]

Eustace lost his bottle after Coventry away.

We are now a Gary Bowyer team again but without Rhodes and this season (not totally based on yesterday) will fizzle out before Christmas.

Bland, defensive, boring and looking for a draw home or away against any side that is expected to finish above us, which under the stewardship of Waggot/shadowman and Venky's is half the league at least.

[Mattyblue]

4 minutes ago, arbitro said:

It was advertised but no follow up from what I can see.

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2024/october/20/eustace-looking-forward-to-meeting-supporters-at-q-a---tickets-are-still-available-/

Exactly. A transcript, video clips etc. Obviously no budget for extravagances like that.

[ABBEY]

7 hours ago, scotchrover said:

The £9 million they got from Szmodics fee has been spent on wages. How do you think Cantwell’s (and the rest) wages have been covered? 

We’ve done what Allardyce did at Bolton, in this window. 
 

 

what about the rest of the money the parasites have brought in . Same as Bolton 😄 🤣 

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, RoversTilliDie said:

I agree, but if we had 30,000,0000 to spend like Sheffield ushited, we'd be 10pts clear at the top. Who says failure doesn't pay, 30,000,000 for getting relegated. They remind me of burnley.

It's no use at all bemoaning the parachute payment system when we've brought in more through selling prized assets over the last few windows.

That money should have delivered a legacy and long term benefit to Blackburn Rovers in the form of capital investment in players and infrastructure. Better than getting parachute cash in some ways as it doesn't get used up on paying off Premier League era contracts and wages.

Instead the owners have used it to pay their bills and help them get around their self-created mess in India.

Their choice. Our problem. Could have been all so very different. They could have reinvested some of it. They decided not to. 

[Hasta]

4 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Sorry but this is completely wrong.

The funding from the walker trust was stopped in 2003 and we maintained a very successful period for nearly ten years after that simply through excellent management from top to bottom. We were never in a position where we were going to be fighting relegation, most of the time we were challenging for European places or cup finals.

 

I meant  relegated in 1999 when Jack was still in charge and, despite all the enthusiasm, vision and control he had, still couldnt stop relegation.

Go back and follow the conversation.

London Blue was saying that criticism yesterdays performace should be tempered because Sheff United were a level above us because their owners have spent money and we haven't. Basically Venkys have sold anyone decent and just replaced with bargain basement buys (incuding in the board room). Therefore, although you can level some blame at Eustace and the players, it's always going to be difficult to compete against teams on seriously larger budgets.

Abbey said that not being able to compete with them was 'nonsense' and "good job uncle Jack had a better vision than you." My point is Uncle Jacks vision was to spend money.

But to your last point, yeah Venkys were fully responsible for relegation last time and are fully responsible for our inability to even look like we can mount a sustained challenge to return at any point. Therefore a lot of the blame for yesterday's performance rests with Venkys and not fully down to JE and the players.

Edited November 3, 2024 by Hasta

[Mattyblue]

We spent plenty in the late 90s, just largely squandered by Hodgson and Kidd. 

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, RoversTilliDie said:

I agree, but if we had 30,000,0000 to spend like Sheffield ushited, we'd be 10pts clear at the top. Who says failure doesn't pay, 30,000,000 for getting relegated. They remind me of burnley.

WE DO HAVE THIS MONEY, THE OWNERS JUST WON’T SPEND IT!!!

[Hasta]

4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

We spent plenty in the late 90s, just largely squandered by Hodgson and Kidd. 

To be fair you are right. We had a net spend of £40million and still got relegated.

[lraC]

16 minutes ago, Hasta said:

I meant  relegated in 1999 when Jack was still in charge and, despite all the enthusiasm, vision and control he had, still couldnt stop relegation.

Go back and follow the conversation.

London Blue was saying that criticism yesterdays performace should be tempered because Sheff United were a level above us because their owners have spent money and we haven't. Basically Venkys have sold anyone decent and just replaced with bargain basement buys (incuding in the board room). Therefore, although you can level some blame at Eustace and the players, it's always going to be difficult to compete against teams on seriously larger budgets.

Abbey said that not being able to compete with them was 'nonsense' and "good job uncle Jack had a better vision than you." My point is Uncle Jacks vision was to spend money.

But to your last point, yeah Venkys were fully responsible for relegation last time and are fully responsible for our inability to even look like we can mount a sustained challenge to return at any point. Therefore a lot of the blame for yesterday's performance rests with Venkys and not fully donw to JE and the players.

Much as I hate them, Balaji didn’t duck out of any tackles, yesterday.

[tomphil]

The club is firmly plonked back in a an era where it liquidates itself just to pay the wages and bills whilst those in the middle draw huge wages/bonuses/pension funds and others draw commission.

Those at the top are happy because they can't be arsed and are 'concentrating on their business in India' - ( corporate speak for couldn't give a toss)

We have a manager and squad now that will tread water for another season or two fulfilling the CEO and shadow directors expectations.

Happy days, it could be worse obviously.

 

Edited November 3, 2024 by tomphil

[Hasta]

24 minutes ago, lraC said:

Much as I hate them, Balaji didn’t duck out of any tackles, yesterday.

On the ground I didn’t really notice anyone jumping out of tackles. I saw a lot of shit control, badly executed passes and wrong decision (and a lot of pissing around at the back which could be solved quickly).

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

Eustace lost his bottle after Coventry away.

We are now a Gary Bowyer team again but without Rhodes and this season (not totally based on yesterday) will fizzle out before Christmas.

Bland, defensive, boring and looking for a draw home or away against any side that is expected to finish above us, which under the stewardship of Waggot/shadowman and Venky's is half the league at least.

Eustace-ball is very reliant on players in attacking positions having the pace and skill to make things happen on their own.  Unfortunately we don’t have those players at our disposal.
 

There’s also a huge difference in the movement up top compared l to when JDT was here. The attacking coaching leaves a lot to be desired under Eustace. 
 

Eustace is good at the defensive side of the game (there’s no legislating for dollopers like JRC and Brittain) and I thought we were really aggressive and pressed really well until JRC had his brain fart and gave the first goal away. Sheff Utd struggled to contain us that first 15 mins, but it all fell apart as soon as Dolan or Hedges got on the ball. After the first goal we weren’t as effective but we still matched them for the rest of the half.
 

2nd half we were shite. 

January will be pivotal, we need quality up front. 

 

 

[rigger]

14 minutes ago, Hasta said:

On the ground I didn’t really notice anyone jumping out of tackles. I saw a lot of shit control, badly executed passes and wrong decision (and a lot of pissing around at the back which could be solved quickly).

I saw all of the above, including the shitting out of tackles.

[AllRoverAsia]

3 hours ago, RoversTilliDie said:

When you get  30,000,0000 for failing in the premiership, it's no wonder there's difference in class. Is it a plot from Sheffield ushited, get relegated and get 30,0000,0000 for it. There up and down like yo yos.

SU, Dingles probably intentional yo yos, Leeds probably want to stay up but haven't been good enough. There must be others.

Sensible recruitment and wage structure is essential for a try at joining the yo yos.

I am supremely confident our lot would F it Up.

[G Somerset Rover]

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

We have a manager and squad now that will tread water for another season or two fulfilling the CEO and shadow directors expectations.

 

I think you and a number of others may be in for a surprise as I have a feeling we’ll be in and around the relegation spots before long this season. 

There simply is no Szmodics, Diaz, Arma or Rhodes to bail us out this time. We have zero goals in us.

Edited November 3, 2024 by G Somerset Rover

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

I just pray we are still in this League when we celebrate our 150th year next Season...that's my realistic hope.

The sum total of my expectation,that's it.

Edited November 3, 2024 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[simongarnerisgod]

4 hours ago, RoversTilliDie said:

When you get  30,000,0000 for failing in the premiership, it's no wonder there's difference in class. Is it a plot from Sheffield ushited, get relegated and get 30,0000,0000 for it. There up and down like yo yos.

sheff utd hav`nt spend anywhere near that,they`de had to slash their wage bill massively,hence they`ve got journeymen like moore ,good loan players like rak sakyi and soutar and some good younger players,mixed with good value signings like o hare and hamer,they`ve also got a good manager as well who knows how to play to the teams strengths.looking at them as a club,they are everything we ar`nt

[Mattyblue]

Think back to the 125th anniversary commemorations, the one off kit, books etc, you just know it will be a pathetic 150th one put on by the present bunch of nomarks running the club.