matt83 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 I genuinely think the Swiss will win today. Maybe it’s just the fact I’m a pessimist. But when I look at the squads individually there’s not many, if any swiss players, that would get into England squad. Maybe xhaka would make the bench yet somehow they come together as a team. If I was a Swiss fella tucking in to my morning fondue I’m looking at the England squad thinking keep it tight and let’s hope it doesn’t get embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 24 minutes ago, matt83 said: I genuinely think the Swiss will win today. Maybe it’s just the fact I’m a pessimist. But when I look at the squads individually there’s not many, if any swiss players, that would get into England squad. Maybe xhaka would make the bench yet somehow they come together as a team. If I was a Swiss fella tucking in to my morning fondue I’m looking at the England squad thinking keep it tight and let’s hope it doesn’t get embarrassing. One side is a settled team and the other side is a collection of players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt83 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: One side is a settled team and the other side is a collection of players. Yeah. A collection of individuals who to a man are better than their opposite number vs a team. A Team wins more often than not. Unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielMB Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 12 hours ago, M_B said: For Germany to get the penalty against Denmark, and not get that one, sums up everything that is wrong with the decision making. And Atwell was the VAR official on both occasions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 51 minutes ago, matt83 said: I genuinely think the Swiss will win today. Maybe it’s just the fact I’m a pessimist. But when I look at the squads individually there’s not many, if any swiss players, that would get into England squad. Maybe xhaka would make the bench yet somehow they come together as a team. If I was a Swiss fella tucking in to my morning fondue I’m looking at the England squad thinking keep it tight and let’s hope it doesn’t get embarrassing. Akanji would be our best defender for a start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 19 minutes ago, matt83 said: Yeah. A collection of individuals who to a man are better than their opposite number vs a team. A Team wins more often than not. Unfortunately For as long as I've been alive England have always been a collection of individuals. It's always been more important for them to be seen as an England player rather than them actually playing for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt83 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 12 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said: Akanji would be our best defender for a start. Yeah he’s decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 39 minutes ago, matt83 said: Yeah. A collection of individuals who to a man are better than their opposite number vs a team. A Team wins more often than not. Unfortunately One hell of an indictment of Southgate, and it's so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Moptop1 said: Isn’t Bellingham banned, or have I made that up? No ban for the "simulation", fined 30k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Moptop1 said: Isn’t Bellingham banned, or have I made that up? One match suspended ban and a fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianrally Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Upside Down said: It's always been more important for them to be seen as an England player rather than them actually playing for England. Correct. The old maxim still stands: There is no ɪ in Team Edited July 6, 2024 by Ianrally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 52 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: No ban for the "simulation", fined 30k Luckily for England he didn't do a fascist salute like that clown from Turkiye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telephone Masturbator Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 Palmer must start tonight. Fully expecting a performance tonight England 3-0 Switzerland Palmer 9' Kane 27' Bellingham 49' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Telephone Masturbator said: Palmer must start tonight. Fully expecting a performance tonight England 3-0 Switzerland Palmer 9' Kane 27' Bellingham 49' Both your forum name and your England prediction are disturbingly detailed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 14 minutes ago, Ianrally said: Correct. The old maxim still stands: There is no ɪ in Team Try telling that to Ronaldo; mard, bigheaded git! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telephone Masturbator Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, Upside Down said: Both your forum name and your England prediction are disturbingly detailed. It's a song title by a punk band called the Pork Dukes from the late 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverholmes Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) 12 hours ago, roverandout said: Roberto martinez the destroyer of golden generations There's such a cognitive dissonance between the hype built around football and the actual thing. It's probably been the case since forever but that Fra v Portugal game summed it up for me. A terrible advert for the game with ultra conservative keep ball and little quality or composure in the final third. There's such a contrast between the hype and promotion and the real thing that, on this basis, it's basically a scam. Edited July 6, 2024 by riverholmes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 38 minutes ago, bazza said: Try telling that to Ronaldo; mard, bigheaded git! I remember a few years ago when Portugal played France in that Euro Final. Ronaldo went off early on with an injury but the rest of the team battled on manfully into extra time and eventually won 1-0. When the team went up to receive the trophy who should be first in line to get the cup ? Yes, the guy who’d played about 10 minutes and done naff all to win it. A real captain would have said “ You guys won the cup, you go up and get it, I’ll tag along at the back “. That told me all i needed to know about Ronaldo. Great footballer, but a very poor team player. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AspRover Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 13 hours ago, roverandout said: Roberto martinez the destroyer of golden generations You know, you just know, that if Southgate walks away Bobby Martinez will make the FA shortlist. As for today, I'm not nervous, honest. *distant sound of cowbells intensifies* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Telephone Masturbator said: Palmer must start tonight. Fully expecting a performance tonight England 3-0 Switzerland Palmer 9' Kane 27' Bellingham 49' Sounds from the papers like we will go 343 but the only player change Konsa for Guehi. No Palmer, Gordon, Toney etc. Saka LWB, Trippier RWB. Foden and Bellingham play as two number 10s behind Kane. Its positionally an improvement but seems harsh Palmer doesnt get a look. And while Saka is a fantastic right forward its a long time since he's played LWB. And I would have thought Trents engine and delivery would make him a better fit for RWB than Trippier. Edited July 6, 2024 by joey_big_nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I remember a few years ago when Portugal played France in that Euro Final. Ronaldo went off early on with an injury but the rest of the team battled on manfully into extra time and eventually won 1-0. When the team went up to receive the trophy who should be first in line to get the cup ? Yes, the guy who’d played about 10 minutes and done naff all to win it. A real captain would have said “ You guys won the cup, you go up and get it, I’ll tag along at the back “. That told me all i needed to know about Ronaldo. Great footballer, but a very poor team player. Got to love him taking the ball for every free kick within 40 yards like hes Roberto Carlos but he's only scored one in his last 120+ attempts..! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 England the underdogs tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Telephone Masturbator said: Palmer must start tonight. Fully expecting a performance tonight England 3-0 Switzerland Palmer 9' Kane 27' Bellingham 49' Southgate is by nature a defensive orientated manager. He's not going to change that in a EURO QF. He probably will start Palmer but he'll be hampered by team tactics same as Foden and Saka. I think it will be a low scoring game. England to win 2-1. The "performance", by the players and not Southgate although he will get the credit, can be saved for the Final v Spain where that and luck will be needed. Edited July 6, 2024 by AllRoverAsia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telephone Masturbator Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said: Sounds from the papers like we will go 343 but the only player change Konsa for Guehi. No Palmer, Gordon, Toney etc. Saka LWB, Trippier RWB. Foden and Bellingham play as two number 10s behind Kane. Its positionally an improvement but seems harsh Palmer doesnt get a look. And while Saka is a fantastic right forward its a long time since he's played LWB. And I would have thought Trents engine and delivery would make him a better fit for RWB than Trippier. I'd drop Foden and Trippier for Palmer and Trent. Saka LWB and Trent RWB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telephone Masturbator Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: Southgate is by nature a defensive orientated manager. He's not going to change that in a EURO QF. He must change it otherwise we're going out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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