Contracts

[KentExile]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Cos I seen him on football documentary and I witnessed him entering Ewood Park

If this is correct (I have no idea if it is), then the same agency also represents Weimann and Forshaw, so if the agents visit had anything to do with a contract, it could have just as easily been one of the others

Also according to the same source, Brereton-Diaz also has the same agent, so Dolan quite possibly may be operating from the same playbook.  Brereton never said he was definitely not signing, until he left, same as Dolan looks to be doing

Edited Tuesday at 12:36 by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, KentExile said:

If this is correct (I have no idea if it is), then the same agency also represents Weimann and Forshaw, so if the agents visit had anything to do with a contract, it could have just as easily been one of the others

Also, Brereton-Diaz also has the same agent (according to the same source), so quite possibly may be operating from the same playbook.  Brereton never said he was definitely not signing, until he left, same as Dolan looks to be doing

It is correct but they are massive global agency tho with loads of agents. So different players will have different agents even if it's under the same agent agency 

[JHRover]

Poor old Steve and Sohail aren't going to get their PRP next year if we use up precious funds giving pay rises to Travis, Tronstad and Brittain.

Likewise now they've gutted the squad of saleable assets they'll be eyeing up that lot as some quick cash when inevitably other clubs chuck some offers our way.

To make matters even better they can dress it all up as Ismael's revolution and pretend the players didn't want to stay here, which the numpties among our support base will swallow hook, line and sinker.

[TugaysMarlboro]

43 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

It is correct but they are massive global agency tho with loads of agents. So different players will have different agents even if it's under the same agent agency 

Is his agent the one that hosts the "I Had Trials Once" podcast? Used to play for Salford in the very early days when Neville and co bought it?

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Poor old Steve and Sohail aren't going to get their PRP next year if we use up precious funds giving pay rises to Travis, Tronstad and Brittain.

Likewise now they've gutted the squad of saleable assets they'll be eyeing up that lot as some quick cash when inevitably other clubs chuck some offers our way.

To make matters even better they can dress it all up as Ismael's revolution and pretend the players didn't want to stay here, which the numpties among our support base will swallow hook, line and sinker.

If you cant afford to offer them what they want, that's not ideal but at least own up to it, what sticks in my craw is Gestede trying to dress it up as an "exciting" opportunity

[Mattyblue]

This the same Gestede sticking in your craw that you were delighted about when he was appointed nine whole months ago?

Edited Tuesday at 14:05 by Mattyblue

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

If this is correct (I have no idea if it is), then the same agency also represents Weimann and Forshaw, so if the agents visit had anything to do with a contract, it could have just as easily been one of the others

Also according to the same source, Brereton-Diaz also has the same agent, so Dolan quite possibly may be operating from the same playbook.  Brereton never said he was definitely not signing, until he left, same as Dolan looks to be doing

Probably also collecting a nice loyalty bonus as they exit the departure lounge.

The people running this club cannot get anything right can they, the sales of the likes of Wharton and Sammie just cover the shitshow and allow it to keep rolling along.

 

[KentExile]

Nothing close, & no contract talks until the end of the season (I am assuming this relates only to first team players rather than U21s etc)

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25111940.blackburn-contract-latest-summer-transfer-power-dynamic/

Ah well, at least they will know what division they will be in by then 😉 

Edited 17 hours ago by KentExile

[TugaysMarlboro]

From the article:

Danny Batth, Adam Forshaw and Andi Weimann are the three senior players out of contract this summer, as well as Tyrhys Dolan, though his situation differs.

 

Genuine question here, can anyone explain why his situation in particular, differs to the other 3? Is it that he's got a contract offer?

Edited 17 hours ago by TugaysMarlboro

[KentExile]

5 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

From the article:

Danny Batth, Adam Forshaw and Andi Weimann are the three senior players out of contract this summer, as well as Tyrhys Dolan, though his situation differs.

 

Genuine question here, can anyone explain why his situation in particular, differs to the other 3? Is it that he's got a contract offer?

I suppose that

1 - there is competition for his signature

2 - because of 1, it would require a significant wage increase rather than the same/similar terms

3 - because of 2, he is off in the summer unless a miracle occurs and promotion is achieved

4 - for those about to type, "but he isn't Premier League quality!"   Do you really think that we will start spending huge amounts of cash if we are promoted?

Edited 16 hours ago by KentExile

[JHRover]

I find it strange that after hearing directly from Travis, Tronstad and now Batth in the last couple of weeks that despite being happy here and willing to stay the club has made zero effort to even speak to them about new terms, that we are supposed to also believe that they are busy at work trying to persuade Dolan to accept a new offer.

Deliberate, planned demolition of the squad and gutting it of proven quality assets. We know how that ends.

[MarkBRFC]

As things stand, I think it's 10 first team players are set to leave this summer, make it 9 if Hedges option is activated.

Rudy said 6 players to come in, so that leaves 3/4 to be filled with academy players I presume,.

Out of the ones leaving, I can certainly see Forshaw being offered another year.

Edited 16 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[philipl]

1 hour ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

From the article:

Danny Batth, Adam Forshaw and Andi Weimann are the three senior players out of contract this summer, as well as Tyrhys Dolan, though his situation differs.

 

Genuine question here, can anyone explain why his situation in particular, differs to the other 3? Is it that he's got a contract offer?

Over ten years age difference probably.

I'd offer Batth and Weimann extensions and would gamble on a big deal for Dolan on the basis of being able to recover it and more from a transfer sale if needed.

[philipl]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

I find it strange that after hearing directly from Travis, Tronstad and now Batth in the last couple of weeks that despite being happy here and willing to stay the club has made zero effort to even speak to them about new terms, that we are supposed to also believe that they are busy at work trying to persuade Dolan to accept a new offer.

Deliberate, planned demolition of the squad and gutting it of proven quality assets. We know how that ends.

At least there can be no doubt in supporters' minds.

Rovers' management haven't got a clue about what they are doing. 

[rigger]

1 hour ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

From the article:

Danny Batth, Adam Forshaw and Andi Weimann are the three senior players out of contract this summer, as well as Tyrhys Dolan, though his situation differs.

 

Genuine question here, can anyone explain why his situation in particular, differs to the other 3? Is it that he's got a contract offer?

The other threes contracts have an extra years option. Maybe, I am not sure. 

[AndyB]

1 hour ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

Genuine question here, can anyone explain why his situation in particular, differs to the other 3? Is it that he's got a contract offer?

As he is under 24, we can get a development fee for him - unless he moves abroad

[London blue]

On 22/04/2025 at 13:47, chaddyrovers said:

It is correct but they are massive global agency tho with loads of agents. So different players will have different agents even if it's under the same agent agency 

Someone who might have been Dolans agent might have been in the ground. 

I expect him to sign imminently.

[superniko]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

As things stand, I think it's 10 first team players are set to leave this summer, make it 9 if Hedges option is activated.

Rudy said 6 players to come in, so that leaves 3/4 to be filled with academy players I presume,.

Out of the ones leaving, I can certainly see Forshaw being offered another year.

To save me looking it up, who are the 10 please?

Hedges, Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Foreshaw...

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, superniko said:

To save me looking it up, who are the 10 please?

Hedges, Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Foreshaw...

The 5 loans. Beck, ACD, Dennis, Woodrow and Sanderson.

[superniko]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The 5 loans. Beck, ACD, Dennis, Woodrow and Sanderson.

Thanks!

For me, I'm not overly worried about the team 'short-term' i.e. this summer. It's more 2026 with Travis, Tronstad, Brittain, Hyam all gone as that is our spine, all likely leaving for free if we don't sort it now. This is where the focus should be now (should have been months ago)

Even a club as incompetent as ours should fancy their chances of improving on ACD, Dennis, Woodrow, Sanderson, Hedges, Foreshaw (6 of the 10). We'll likely get another 5 loans, which i'd be impressed if they're any worse than the 5 listed above who have offered nothing bar Beck. (Loans in this league should be instant 1st teamers if you have any sense).

Beck, Dolan, Batth and Weimann given his goalscoring record will be missed, but the latter two should be easy enough to re-sign.

Edited 14 hours ago by superniko

[BlackburnEnd75]

47 minutes ago, superniko said:

Thanks!

For me, I'm not overly worried about the team 'short-term' i.e. this summer. It's more 2026 with Travis, Tronstad, Brittain, Hyam all gone as that is our spine, all likely leaving for free if we don't sort it now. This is where the focus should be now (should have been months ago)

Even a club as incompetent as ours should fancy their chances of improving on ACD, Dennis, Woodrow, Sanderson, Hedges, Foreshaw (6 of the 10). We'll likely get another 5 loans, which i'd be impressed if they're any worse than the 5 listed above who have offered nothing bar Beck. (Loans in this league should be instant 1st teamers if you have any sense).

Beck, Dolan, Batth and Weimann given his goalscoring record will be missed, but the latter two should be easy enough to re-sign.

A sensible club would already have had these discussions with the 2026 lot and would now be reacting to the outcome. If they aren't renewing then they are being sold as we can't allow assets to walk for nothing and the funds are needed to replace them. And if they are signing it gives us more of aj idea of where we need to buy players and what budget is available. 

None of the loans are coming back for various reasons. 

I suspect forshaw will go. Hedges will remain in some form as the market for him won't be as fierce. Batth will likely stay making a further mockery of the refusal to offer him a 2 year deal 2 years ago, but a 1 year deal is sensible. 

Suspect weimann will get another year but with him showing signs of slowing down pre injury I dont think this will work out. 

Dolan will leave and won't be adequately replaced.

[DutchRover]

Ismael has said he wants Hedges renewed, watch them rush to sign him up instead of Dolan.

In all honesty I think he is a solid, if extremely limited player. He works hard, especially in defence and pressing, but offers next to no attacking threat or pace out wide. I don't mind if he is here as 2nd choice but we need an upgrade if the "project" is to advance.

[roverblue]

Based on Gestede talking about wanting academy lads and players with re-sale value I would be amazed if any of the older players get extensions.

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, roverblue said:

Based on Gestede talking about wanting academy lads and players with re-sale value I would be amazed if any of the older players get extensions.

They'll get extensions because they are cheap, short term deals and we need a squad.

The ones that won't get new deals will be Trav, Tronstad, Brittain and Hyam as they'll all want good wages.

[roversfan99]

Im not sure many if any Championship clubs would give a wide man who has scored one solitary goal and set up only 2 having played the majority of games in a season a new deal. Shows our lack of ambition.

"Not that type of player" though apparently.