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v Hull City (a) - 07/12/2024


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1 hour ago, Atko's Engine said:

Class goal that from back to front again, this time at pace (unlike Cardiff) & involving some great vision, bravery in possession, one touch positive passing and direct running from some very oft-maligned players (Pears, Dolan, Hedges & Brittain), plus Tronstad & Cantwell.

 

Brittain’s 2 passes to start that move are excellent, the 2nd one in particular. 

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26 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im sure we will lose a game we have led in at some point, but I commented that Eustace really has us well drilled off the ball and its causing us to consistently get positive results in spite of having a poor attack which is credit to him. Hedges, Dolan and Ohashi again didnt offer a goal threat but after our fortunate goal, our organisation meant that a poor Hull side never looked likely to break us down.

Yet we are 6th despite your point of us having a poor attack in your opinion(which I disagree on given the quality of ours compare to others, yes it could be improve with a signing or 2 but still good enough for mid table at least at this level IMO and what I ahve witness this season), 

Brittain put the ball in and if McLoughlin had missed it instead, Its probably a tap in for Ohashi. 

I'm not bothered at us offering a goal threat too much yesterday given we took the lead and never seen we would conceded in a bloody awful and horrendous weather, we got the job done and every single Rovers fan was delighted and happy with that 3 points. 

Hull have a decent team there and I think Ruben Sellas appointment there is a good one. One of the problem in this lack is the lack of quality strikers teams have and everyone is looking for goalscoring number 9. 

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1 hour ago, Atko's Engine said:

Class goal that from back to front again, this time at pace (unlike Cardiff) & involving some great vision, bravery in possession, one touch positive passing and direct running from some very oft-maligned players (Pears, Dolan, Hedges & Brittain), plus Tronstad & Cantwell.

 

Especially in those conditions, you can see how the wind was affecting the flight of the ball.

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27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yet we are 6th despite your point of us having a poor attack in your opinion(which I disagree on given the quality of ours compare to others, yes it could be improve with a signing or 2 but still good enough for mid table at least at this level IMO and what I ahve witness this season), 

There's no doubting Rovers are lacking a consistent and proven goal scorer, but unlike last season there is a greater variety of players that are chipping in with the goals. If Rovers had a 15 goal striker alongside this group then they'd likely end up comfortably in the top 6.

I do bloody love Yuki Ohashi though for his work rate alone. The fella just needs a tap in to get back on the scoring trail.

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On 08/12/2024 at 06:02, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

The team and Eustace deserve full credit....a great run of form!

Please,PLEASE! back this Manager with cash in January.

We were pretty much 2nd going into Jan in both 21/22 and 22/23. Pricks barely spent a cent either window. Despite our 40m windfall over the last 12 months, what makes you think it will change now?!

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Well to be fair to Eustace I can't really fault the response to the loss streak, and he's proven me wrong in shoring the backline up. 3 away wins on the bounce and a very good win against the league leaders is a statement. 

The next 8 weeks will define our season - a lot of games in quick succession and a transfer window where a couple of key signings could actually allow us to keep up a play-off challenge. 

An amount of grit that we haven't seen probably since Big Sam, and it's been sorely missed. 

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1 hour ago, sharpysharps86 said:

There's no doubting Rovers are lacking a consistent and proven goal scorer, but unlike last season there is a greater variety of players that are chipping in with the goals. If Rovers had a 15 goal striker alongside this group then they'd likely end up comfortably in the top 6.

I agree. Alot of Championship clubs wanted that 15 goal striker. Its will be interesting who we sign in January 

The team is chipping in more whether its Batth or Hyam scoring or Travis. 

I enjoyed how well drilled defensively we are and seen Hyam in great form this season. 

1 hour ago, sharpysharps86 said:

I do bloody love Yuki Ohashi though for his work rate alone. The fella just needs a tap in to get back on the scoring trail.

I think he is good player who works his socks off every goal. His goal against Derby and the reaction from the fans is something I will remember. Reminds me so much of Paul Dickov. 

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40 minutes ago, RTM08 said:

Well to be fair to Eustace I can't really fault the response to the loss streak, and he's proven me wrong in shoring the backline up. 3 away wins on the bounce and a very good win against the league leaders is a statement. 

The next 8 weeks will define our season - a lot of games in quick succession and a transfer window where a couple of key signings could actually allow us to keep up a play-off challenge. 

An amount of grit that we haven't seen probably since Big Sam, and it's been sorely missed. 

And it will dissipate quickly if the January window is as bad as usual.

Players will realise they will not be fighting for promotion and there is no ambition at the club to match the supporters' and their own

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16 hours ago, LDRover said:

Having been at the KCOM this afternoon I cannot downplay how bad those conditions were today, it was genuinely horrendous. 

So, with that in mind, to pull up the quality of football today is churlish in the extreme. Having said that, the play leading up to the goal was as good a quality as any build up this season - you really cannot underestimate that level of play in those conditions.

It certainly wasn't easy on the eye but the commitment to the cause of all these lads lately is incredible.

A couple of performances to note, firstly Pears. A couple of crucial saves in the first half got us in ahead and I never felt they were scoring past him today. 

Baker was steady and complemented Tronstad perfectly. He filled the gaps, made tackles in key areas and on the one occasion he got forward was unlucky to see his shot blocked.

Ohashi may have fluffed his chance in the 2nd half but by Christ he grafts. You can't help but take to the lad.

Brittain I have been critical of in the past but he is thriving at the minute - long may it continue.

Beck will be some player. Quick, tenacious with a nasty streak but such a talent. He relished the battle today.

Finally Big Mak. Yes he only had 15 minutes but it would've been easy for him to hide. He didn't, he won a couple of balls into our box and was an outlet for the long balls out late on, showing a decent touch on a couple of occasions. The lad isn't ever going to be good enough, let's be honest but he's wholehearted and knows his role in seeing games out.

Finally, the manager. Eustace is working miracles with what he has, I honestly thought we were relegation fodder based on the lack of backing he has had but he seems to relish this challenge. If he gets any backing in January (a striker) we have a real chance this season.

And your last sentence is exactly why it's such a travesty to be owned by these wretched cunts, because he so won't and it's so true.  

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3 hours ago, 47er said:

And it will dissipate quickly if the January window is as bad as usual.

Players will realise they will not be fighting for promotion and there is no ambition at the club to match the supporters' and their own

then players start playing for their own interests,which is to get a move to a better club.the rest of them just content to pick up their wages,i don`t see eustace being content to just stay in the division.suspect he`ll see his contract out and move on,he`s doing a fine job here managing on buttons and dealing with w*****s in the corridors of power,he`ll move on with his reputation on a high imo

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6 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

There's no doubting Rovers are lacking a consistent and proven goal scorer, but unlike last season there is a greater variety of players that are chipping in with the goals.

It feels that way but surprisingly it’s not actually true.

This season after 19 games we have scored 22 goals. 4 of those goals are from our main striker (Yuki).  11 other players have scored a combined total of 18 goals

Last season after 19 games we had scored 32 goals. 16 of those goals were from Sammy. 11 other players scored a combined total of 16 goals.

However it was from now on when we hit the shocking run that led to JDT’s demise when only Szmodics could score.

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15 minutes ago, Hasta said:

It feels that way but surprisingly it’s not actually true.

This season after 19 games we have scored 22 goals. 4 of those goals are from our main striker (Yuki).  11 other players have scored a combined total of 18 goals

Last season after 19 games we had scored 32 goals. 16 of those goals were from Sammy. 11 other players scored a combined total of 16 goals.

However it was from now on when we hit the shocking run where only Szmodics could score that led to JDT’s demise.

Well that and conceding 2+ goals a game. 

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8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yet we are 6th despite your point of us having a poor attack in your opinion(which I disagree on given the quality of ours compare to others, yes it could be improve with a signing or 2 but still good enough for mid table at least at this level IMO and what I ahve witness this season), 

Brittain put the ball in and if McLoughlin had missed it instead, Its probably a tap in for Ohashi. 

I'm not bothered at us offering a goal threat too much yesterday given we took the lead and never seen we would conceded in a bloody awful and horrendous weather, we got the job done and every single Rovers fan was delighted and happy with that 3 points. 

Hull have a decent team there and I think Ruben Sellas appointment there is a good one. One of the problem in this lack is the lack of quality strikers teams have and everyone is looking for goalscoring number 9. 

Its testament to the manager that he has us where we are with a poor attack. See some stats below which back that up.

The only attacking player we have who might get into other Championship squads is Cantwell. Im guessing you think others would.

7 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

There's no doubting Rovers are lacking a consistent and proven goal scorer, but unlike last season there is a greater variety of players that are chipping in with the goals. If Rovers had a 15 goal striker alongside this group then they'd likely end up comfortably in the top 6.

I do bloody love Yuki Ohashi though for his work rate alone. The fella just needs a tap in to get back on the scoring trail.

Have they? We are scoring 1.22 per game this season compared to 1.3 per game last season when we nearly went down.

You look at some of the usual suspects and whether they have been able to step up. Dolan is on only 2 goals and Hedges 1. They havent stepped up in terms of scoring more to compensate for the lack of Szmodics in any way. Only 2 players in Weimann and Ohashi have more than 2 and they only have 4, with the latter having not scored any since a great initial burst. In the last 13 league games, Ohashi has 0, Gueye obviously has 0, Hedges has 0 and Dolan had the one deflected goal against Swansea. Cantwell only has the 1 penalty to add to that, we have as a team scored 10 in those 13 games including yesterdays own goal.

Eustace has done so well to get us picking up points in spite of a misfiring attack by having us so hard to beat, they havent stepped up. We have kept 7 clean sheets in those 13 games hence why we have picked up 20 points, in those 8 games we picked up points we conceded 1 goal.

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49 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Its testament to the manager that he has us where we are with a poor attack. See some stats below which back that up.

The only attacking player we have who might get into other Championship squads is Cantwell. Im guessing you think others would.

I think its testament to Eustace, his staff and the players. 

Yes I disagree. 

50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Have they? We are scoring 1.22 per game this season compared to 1.3 per game last season when we nearly went down.

You look at some of the usual suspects and whether they have been able to step up. Dolan is on only 2 goals and Hedges 1. They havent stepped up in terms of scoring more to compensate for the lack of Szmodics in any way. Only 2 players in Weimann and Ohashi have more than 2 and they only have 4, with the latter having not scored any since a great initial burst. In the last 13 league games, Ohashi has 0, Gueye obviously has 0, Hedges has 0 and Dolan had the one deflected goal against Swansea. Cantwell only has the 1 penalty to add to that, we have as a team scored 10 in those 13 games including yesterdays own goal.

But we pick up wins cos we have been defensively solid and we took our chances where its Hyam with the goal or Travis. 

In the last 4 games, we scored 6 and conceded just 1 goal with 12 points from 12 points available. 

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3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I think its testament to Eustace, his staff and the players. 

Yes I disagree. 

But we pick up wins cos we have been defensively solid and we took our chances where its Hyam with the goal or Travis. 

In the last 4 games, we scored 6 and conceded just 1 goal with 12 points from 12 points available. 

Which of our other attacking players get in the squads of the other sides high up in the league, and which sides?

I agree that we are picking up wins because of our defensive work. Thats my point, its not a criticism of Eustace but praise. Our attack is so limited and lacking in goals that only excellent organisation can continue to win us points.

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14 hours ago, 47er said:

And it will dissipate quickly if the January window is as bad as usual.

Players will realise they will not be fighting for promotion and there is no ambition at the club to match the supporters' and their own

More than likely a huge contributor to our February death spirals.

All optimism gone especially the last two years with the deliberate sabotage of key transfers to go along with the underfunding.

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1 hour ago, Upside Down said:

More than likely a huge contributor to our February death spirals.

All optimism gone especially the last two years with the deliberate sabotage of key transfers to go along with the underfunding.

I understand where you are coming from but can we please stop using this death spiral stuff. Yes, I know it has happened but it sounds so "Riverside early 80s" and it's boring now. Not aimed at yourself BTW. 

This forum lacks optimism and I get that, rinse and repeat so to speak but having won 4 on the bounce, defending well and grafting the odd goal to win especially away from home there must surely be a bit more optimistic posts here. 

We are 6th in the table with a game in hand ffs. Not in the bottom 3.

 

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1 hour ago, Aqualung said:

I understand where you are coming from but can we please stop using this death spiral stuff. Yes, I know it has happened but it sounds so "Riverside early 80s" and it's boring now. Not aimed at yourself BTW. 

This forum lacks optimism and I get that, rinse and repeat so to speak but having won 4 on the bounce, defending well and grafting the odd goal to win especially away from home there must surely be a bit more optimistic posts here. 

We are 6th in the table with a game in hand ffs. Not in the bottom 3.

 

Actually I believe it's quite contrary regarding the optimism of this forum. This is one of very few places that actually believe Blackburn Rovers are a long standing force within English football and deserve to be in the top division challenging for European spots.

BRFCS is probably the only place you'll see genuine optimism about a post venkys future of this club.

There may be some pessimistic takes on things as they currently stand because people on here actually pay attention to what's happening within the wider world and looks at the history of what's happened over the last fourteen years and counting. What a lot of people see as pessimistic doom mongering is actually just being realistic and not having the memory of a goldfish.

Maybe death spiral is a bit of an exaggeration but our form does have a tendency to tank from February onwards. Seeing just about every team around you, especially the ones that have actual ambition, strengthening during the January window and the club you play for deliberately sabotage or deliberately underfund any potential transfers (not outgoings of course) has to have a detrimental effect on the playing staff.

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Yep, the social media age has spawned this weird phenomenon where folk just can’t cope with ‘negativity’. That merely ‘being positive’, ‘being kind’ on the internet will materialise said positivity somehow, even for a football club with distant, rogue owners that we as fans have zero influence over.

Now I’m buzzing with what Eustace is doing with this limited squad, what a potential club transforming moment we could be in as the window opens… alas, after seeing three January debacles in a row I sadly won’t be putting my head above the parapet expecting something different, especially when the owners are currently in court for financial irregularities every other month, that doesn’t scream January war chest for their neglected football club half way round the world to me… but if people are happy to ignore all that and to utilise some wishful thinking until 1st February before the inevitable let down, go for it, I suppose, but don’t try and paint those that have seen this story a fair few times as ‘negative’.

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10 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Which of our other attacking players get in the squads of the other sides high up in the league, and which sides?

My previous comments was our attacking players 

10 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I agree that we are picking up wins because of our defensive work. Thats my point, its not a criticism of Eustace but praise. Our attack is so limited and lacking in goals that only excellent organisation can continue to win us points.

We need to defensive solid and build on that. We played good attacking football when we can but we dont over played too much like last season. Organisation is key to us challenging for the top 6 and keeping clean sheets but also the form of players like Hyam, Pears and Brittain cos of the solid Organisation based. 

We wont agree on our attacking players so I leave it there for this week

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