v Sheffield Wednesday (a) - 10/12/2024

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

Surely they will have to look at it to determine whether he touched it. You only said 'if' and 'I think' about it yourself. I've watched replays from several angles, several times, and I'm no clearer whether he touched it. Needs a slow-mo HD look.

No it doesn't.

Gueye will be desperate for the goal, the Sheff Weds defender will be desperate for it not to be an own goal. Panel doesn't need to meet. 

[bluebruce]

7 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

No it doesn't.

Gueye will be desperate for the goal, the Sheff Weds defender will be desperate for it not to be an own goal. Panel doesn't need to meet. 

Those are always the circumstances when a goal may be an OG. Changes nothing.

[Herbie6590]

32 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Those are always the circumstances when a goal may be an OG. Changes nothing.

I doubt it will get referred based on this...

[47er]

11 hours ago, den said:

Gueye’s still a crap footballer but he does make people smile. Can’t help but like him.

Anyone else remember crap strikers that did that? I can’t.

Jim Fryatt?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, 47er said:

Jim Fryatt?

Not particularly sparkling with the ball at his feet but what a great header of the ball.

[Dan]

2 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I think that's a possibility, but I still haven't seen a replay where I can be certain he got a touch on it at all. If he did then as you say he should get the goal.

 
 

I think this is as good as we’re going to get…

Edited December 11, 2024 by Dan

[47er]

34 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Not particularly sparkling with the ball

!!!!!!!

[booth]

 

He definitely gets his head on it.

Wednesday players head is sideways so he didn't "ear" it in.

[47er]

That really is exquisite work from Rankin-Costello.

[47er]

45 minutes ago, 47er said:

!!!!!!!

 

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2020/june/jim-fryatt-1940-2020/

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said:

I doubt it will get referred based on this...

Sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say. How does any of that mean it won't be looked at?

[bluebruce]

54 minutes ago, booth said:

 

He definitely gets his head on it.

Wednesday players head is sideways so he didn't "ear" it in.

Not only is that blurry as shit but it looks more like, if anything, his head isn't on it at all. Again, I'd need to see it in a slow-mo hd to feel confident. But he'll either be allowed to keep it or not.

[Herbie6590]

21 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say. How does any of that mean it won't be looked at?

If they review only 3 or 4 a season…why this one ?

What’s at stake?

Who loses out by giving to Gueye?

Why would they be so aggrieved? 

Who from Sheffield Wednesday is going to dispute it…? 

What would their motivation be? 

[wilsdenrover]

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said:

If they review only 3 or 4 a season…why this one ?

What’s at stake?

Who loses out by giving to Gueye?

Why would they be so aggrieved? 

Who from Sheffield Wednesday is going to dispute it…? 

What would their motivation be? 

Never mind Wednesday I don't understand what the the motivation of some of our supporters trying to take the goal of Gueye is.

Not a difficult one for me, Gueye headed it, it brushed the top of the defender's head and went in. It was going in before it made contact with the defender's head so no problem.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Not only is that blurry as shit but it looks more like, if anything, his head isn't on it at all. Again, I'd need to see it in a slow-mo hd to feel confident. But he'll either be allowed to keep it or not.

That picture has clearly been frozen after he'd headed the ball!

[Upside Down]

Looks like it clipped off the defender's head but it was always towards the goal.

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

If they review only 3 or 4 a season…why this one ?

What’s at stake?

Who loses out by giving to Gueye?

Why would they be so aggrieved? 

Who from Sheffield Wednesday is going to dispute it…? 

What would their motivation be? 

That's the Premier League's committee not the EFL's.  Nothing was mentioned of how often the EFL's Dubious Goals Committee meets.

When is anything at stake with such a thing, beyond accurate records and maybe a dispute over top scorer (which could only be known near or at season's end). When does anyone lose out, unless it's two teammates arguing over who scored? Yet it tends to be ones like this - was it the scoring team's player or an OG? Why would anyone be so aggrieved? Following this line of logic I'd say the panels, Prem or EFL, would never meet.

We've definitely had players get goals chalked off by them before.

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That picture has clearly been frozen after he'd headed the ball!

It has clearly been frozen too late for anything to be clear.

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Never mind Wednesday I don't understand what the the motivation of some of our supporters trying to take the goal of Gueye is.

Not a difficult one for me, Gueye headed it, it brushed the top of the defender's head and went in. It was going in before it made contact with the defender's head so no problem.

I already answered that on page 19. Nobody here is trying to take it off him, primarily because we don't have the power to do so, but also because obviously we want him to be the scorer for his confidence.

That makes utterly zero difference to any objective debate about whether he did in fact score it or not. Emotive bias doesn't factor into that. What we want to be true isn't necessarily true.

[Bbrovers2288]

Think we need to calm down on the dubious goal chat, I highly doubt anyone is caring enough to discuss it. He had the biggest part of it and it went in for the winning goal, all that matters, we move on 

[oldjamfan1]

5 hours ago, bluebruce said:

That's the Premier League's committee not the EFL's.  Nothing was mentioned of how often the EFL's Dubious Goals Committee meets.

When is anything at stake with such a thing, beyond accurate records and maybe a dispute over top scorer (which could only be known near or at season's end). When does anyone lose out, unless it's two teammates arguing over who scored? Yet it tends to be ones like this - was it the scoring team's player or an OG? Why would anyone be so aggrieved? Following this line of logic I'd say the panels, Prem or EFL, would never meet.

We've definitely had players get goals chalked off by them before.

The bookies have paid out on it already apparently.

[roversfan99]

I dont get why discussing in general whether Gueye got the final touch on the goal is deemed as people trying to take it off him.

[Dreams of 1995]

One thing I do know is that it was a great goal by Gueye 

[tomphil]

Kevin Davies and the like 'forced' many a ball into the net !

It's exactly how you use a striker like him just put it in front of him and get him flinging himself at everything.