v Burnley (h) - 4/1/2025

[Cherry Blue]

4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It’s that sort of decision making that does my head in. Along with the over ambitious pass down field when the obvious pass is shorter and out wide. Plus the passes that go behind players so they have stop and lose all forward momentum.  I can’t believe Eustace doesn’t sit them down on a Monday morning and play the games back incident by incident. “ Right, you lost the ball/gave the ball away there, where should you have passed it to ? “ 

And that's why we'll finish well short of play offs. 

Massive injection of cash needed but it won't/can't happen with venkeys. Eustace has proved he has the short term ability but he knows his future success is over a season. If he's still here next season then great but I doubt he will be.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

1 hour ago, roverandout said:

  Cantwell Is massively overrated. 

Rangers didn't get rid for nothing tbh.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

47 minutes ago, BigHoz said:

Cantwell has been pretty poor but he’s better than what we have, the team set up doesn’t suit him, add more quality up the top end of the pitch and we’ll see the better of him. 

You've got to want to influence the game before you can. I don't think Cantwell would make much of an impression if he had Messi at his peak in front of him.

[Salgados Hair]

9 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Back this Manager Venkys or fuck off and put the club into the hands of Owners who do give a fcuk.

Sadly, they won't do either.

[RevidgeBlue]

13 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

At least our excuse is we're £40m in the black in transfer fees the last 24 months. They must be at least £150m in the red, so what's their excuse?

They don't need one. They won.

[Cherry Blue]

37 minutes ago, Tom said:

Where there fliers or anything on the seats trying to entice people back?

It was good to see Ewood almost full again and credit to all those who returned after being away for so long. 

[Exiled_Rover]

7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I didn't think Baker was bad today for a loan player he certainly bought into the importance of the fixture and was fully invested. Overall I'd say he's as good as you're likely to get as back up.

Really nasty challenge by him on 5 mins though which should have seen red, he fouled the Burnley player then as the opponent was on the way down he did him on the back of the achilles. Don't like to see that, notwithstanding it was a Burnley player he could have caused very serious injuries.

Elsewhere there were any number of petulant, niggly fouls by players on both sides and I thought the ref did very well to keep 22 players on the pitch.

Is that when their #7 stayed down rolling around for their attack and then, when the ref told play and was told to get up, he jogged 60 yards into our box without a care in the world?

[K-Hod]

Don’t forget- there’s no reason (well, financial), that we can’t have a go at promotion and don’t let anyone tell you there is, because there isn’t.

If the club aren’t willing to spend money, that’s their fault. What is the point of football if you aren’t trying to win and be successful? I’d probably suggest there isn’t much of one tbf.

 

[roverblue]

A draw would have been fair but we should have showed more ambition in the first half.

Baker and Tronstad needs to end they just stand next to each other all game and get a nosebleed if they pass the halfway line.
 

Guess the plan was to take it to 0-0 then attack for last 20 mins but the one bit of class from Burnley got them a goal and allowed them to sit for the rest of the game.

Been a crap Xmas period and a terrible points return. Hope it turns around quickly so we don’t end up in last seasons mess.

[Exiled_Rover]

9 minutes ago, Cherry Blue said:

And that's why we'll finish well short of play offs. 

Massive injection of cash needed but it won't/can't happen with venkeys. Eustace has proved he has the short term ability but he knows his future success is over a season. If he's still here next season then great but I doubt he will be.

£3m in transfer fees would be enough if spent wisely. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You've got to want to influence the game before you can. I don't think Cantwell would make much of an impression if he had Messi at his peak in front of him.

I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt today. He’d been ill apparently, maybe he put his hand up to play because he knew he was needed. Today has gone though and I’ll be expecting a lot more in future. The attacking part of the game needs to go through whoever’s playing in that role, not pass them by. He needs to be more demanding and get on the ball more.

[arbitro]

I think Eustace got his selection wrong today. Cozier-Duberry, Cantwell and Gueye wouldn't have started for me and the course of the game and their input indicates I was right. Cantwell contributed nothing at all and I lost count of the number of times he lost possession. Cozier-Duberry, one first half shot aside made too many wrong decisions epitomised by turning into a couple of their players and losing possession which led to them scoring. I honestly don't know what to say about Gueye. He seems a likeable lad and popular too but he is nowhere near Championship level as a starter. Defensively we were solid again today with Hyam and Batth coping with their attacks well supported by Brittain and Beck. Baker and Tronstad were the equals of their midfield with Dolan looking good first half but fading away in the second. The real annoyance though is that they were there to be beaten today. It's clear why they concede so few so I thought another route would have been delivery into the penalty area but our set pieces and crossing was abysmal.

Today was about beating that lot and right now I don't want to read about how well our season is going. The defeat is still raw and will be for a couple of days yet and in the cold light of day I'll reassess the season so far. But the here and now is that I'm p***** off.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I think Eustace got his selection wrong today. Cozier-Duberry, Cantwell and Gueye wouldn't have started for me and the course of the game and their input indicates I was right. Cantwell contributed nothing at all and I lost count of the number of times he lost possession. Cozier-Duberry, one first half shot aside made too many wrong decisions epitomised by turning into a couple of their players and losing possession which led to them scoring. I honestly don't know what to say about Gueye. He seems a likeable lad and popular too but he is nowhere near Championship level as a starter. Defensively we were solid again today with Hyam and Batth coping with their attacks well supported by Brittain and Beck. Baker and Tronstad were the equals of their midfield with Dolan looking good first half but fading away in the second. The real annoyance though is that they were there to be beaten today. It's clear why they concede so few so I thought another route would have been delivery into the penalty area but our set pieces and crossing was abysmal.

Today was about beating that lot and right now I don't want to read about how well our season is going. The defeat is still raw and will be for a couple of days yet and in the cold light of day I'll reassess the season so far. But the here and now is that I'm p***** off.

Gueye gets far too much stick on here. 

He gets no service, but was causing their two CBs problems. Once he went off our attack went with him. 

[DE.]

25 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Atkins on BBC Radio Lancs was talking about how the three paid to score goals aren't good enough (Gueye, Ohashi and Leonard).

Seems a bit harsh to me. From what I've seen from Ohashi he's good value for what we paid. Nobody should have been expecting a 28 year old player from the J-League, with no experience at this level, to be banging in the goals. He's done well so far imo.

Leonard, still don't feel like I've seen enough of him to say for sure. He's obviously not going to be a prolific striker in future, you'd have seen glimpses of that by now if so, but I wouldn't write him off yet. At the very least I think he'll have a decent career in the league below if he doesn't make it at this level.

As for Big Mak... god bless him. I have no idea how he's made a career of being a footballer at the levels he's been playing at, but fair play for doing so. He's OK to bring on as a nuisance to introduce some chaos at the tail end of matches, but he will never be the answer to our goalscoring problem.

We simply didn't address the striker issue in the summer. The two we brought in are suitable for certain purposes, but not as a primary, goalscoring forward. We still need that and we're hamstrung as a team without that kind of player. There are other issues but this is the most obvious.

 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Well... that panned out predictably. Think Eustace got the starting selection wrong.  Left us with nothing on the bench that could change it once we went behind.  Awful set pieces  first half.  Thought Burnley mediocre as well.  Baker confirmed my opinion of him today - absolute passenger. 

Credit to Britain. Only one that offered anything going forward. 

Really poor up front.  and the wide players constantly turn back.  

What an awful festive period. 

 

[danger19_80]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I honestly don't know what to say about Gueye. He seems a likeable lad and popular too but he is nowhere near Championship level as a starter. 

Felt sorry for him today. He won several excellent headers up top but had no support or anyone anticipating or gambling on a flick on to take advantage.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I think Eustace got his selection wrong today. Cozier-Duberry, Cantwell and Gueye wouldn't have started for me and the course of the game and their input indicates I was right. Cantwell contributed nothing at all and I lost count of the number of times he lost possession. Cozier-Duberry, one first half shot aside made too many wrong decisions epitomised by turning into a couple of their players and losing possession which led to them scoring. I honestly don't know what to say about Gueye. He seems a likeable lad and popular too but he is nowhere near Championship level as a starter. Defensively we were solid again today with Hyam and Batth coping with their attacks well supported by Brittain and Beck. Baker and Tronstad were the equals of their midfield with Dolan looking good first half but fading away in the second. The real annoyance though is that they were there to be beaten today. It's clear why they concede so few so I thought another route would have been delivery into the penalty area but our set pieces and crossing was abysmal.

Today was about beating that lot and right now I don't want to read about how well our season is going. The defeat is still raw and will be for a couple of days yet and in the cold light of day I'll reassess the season so far. But the here and now is that I'm p***** off.

I said before the game I would have started with the usual back 7 with JRC, Buckley, Hedges in the 3 and Dolan up front. Anybody not 100% fit I wouldn’t have started. In Eustace we trust but I agree with you regarding the forward players.

[Neal]

A whole generation of fans yet to see us beat them been let down. I like to think I'm pretty fair in giving criticism and credit where it's due. I've given the manager a lot of praise but that was passionless rubbish. He's talked and talked about filling up the stadium and being in it together, absolutely bottled it today. Way too deep, just played like any other game. Only player that comes out with any credit is Callum Brittain. Owen Beck letting crosses in the box in 2nd half of games is really crippling us, I like the lad but he's costing us points at the moment. 

 

Todd Cantwell is a disgrace. I'd love to see a heat map of him, he wanted play anywhere but the 18 yard box or anywhere near it... Where does he play? What is he good at? Highest paid player at the club and offer absolutely nothing. People give Dolan shit but he does far more than Cantwell on and off the ball. No way did he deserve to come off whilst he stayed on. I genuinely think he upsets the ethos of this team, which was built on being honest and hard working. He strolls around thinking he's god's gift but never creates anything. Starting to understand why many Rangers fans hated him. Primadonna, shite. 

 

Games like today were important to create belief that these players and this manager can do anything this season, in front of a full crowd. All they've done is created a feeling of no belief and turned off a full crowd of fans. A win today can change the mentality of the club and granted,.our owners will always hold us back it could been a very significant moment in our season. 

 

Really poor from everyone today. 

 

 

[Tom]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Gueye gets far too much stick on here. 

He gets no service, but was causing their two CBs problems. Once he went off our attack went with him. 

He’s obviously not good enough to be a one man match winner and I tend to think his best use is from the bench but not sure he could have done much more today, won some great headers but the number 10 was too deep to pick up on them

[Ianrally]

Chris Sutton saying on Sky how Eustace has done a fantastic job with the players he has at his disposal, but that’s why the owners must back him in the transfer window and get some firepower up front. 
 

………meanwhile on hearing this, Maggot was last seen running down the corridor to remove the fuse from the fax machine !

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

I think Eustace got his selection wrong today. Cozier-Duberry, Cantwell and Gueye wouldn't have started for me and the course of the game and their input indicates I was right. Cantwell contributed nothing at all and I lost count of the number of times he lost possession. Cozier-Duberry, one first half shot aside made too many wrong decisions epitomised by turning into a couple of their players and losing possession which led to them scoring. I honestly don't know what to say about Gueye. He seems a likeable lad and popular too but he is nowhere near Championship level as a starter. Defensively we were solid again today with Hyam and Batth coping with their attacks well supported by Brittain and Beck. Baker and Tronstad were the equals of their midfield with Dolan looking good first half but fading away in the second. The real annoyance though is that they were there to be beaten today. It's clear why they concede so few so I thought another route would have been delivery into the penalty area but our set pieces and crossing was abysmal.

Today was about beating that lot and right now I don't want to read about how well our season is going. The defeat is still raw and will be for a couple of days yet and in the cold light of day I'll reassess the season so far. But the here and now is that I'm p***** off.

Tronstad turned off for the goal. That was the only real difference between the two sides today and apart from that everyone would probably have been relatively happy with the result had it finished 0-0 irrespective of the rather obvious deficiencies in our performance.

I've no idea how you get this lot scoring though. Eustace has worked miracles to get us where we are as it is.

[martonrover]

Groundhog Day.

Another derby where we haven’t been able to lay a glove on them.

They produce one bit of quality and , once again, it’s enough.

Pardon the irony, but they have the Indian sign on us.

[arbitro]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

Gueye gets far too much stick on here. 

He gets no service, but was causing their two CBs problems. Once he went off our attack went with him. 

He was awful. Aside from winning a coupe of first half headers he didn't trouble them. He doesn't anticipate anything in the penalty area from open play and gives away far too many free-kicks. 

[jim mk2]

Well that keeps up my 100 per cent record ……. Still yet to see Rovers win this season

Some thoughts

Hate to say it but Burnley were a class above, a standard of player in a different league to ours. They’ve spent money - and it showed

Rovers need a revamp, 3 or 4 new players, ones who can create and score goals. As it stands we will be lucky to finish in mid table
 

The Burnley goal and Rovers’ only chance in the first half came from beautiful lcrosses delivered at pace behind defenders, traditional and effective wing  play. So much for inverted wingers

 

 

[davulsukur]

Absolutely gutting to lose to those inbred c***s again but that's what Venkys have done to us.