Fans Forum/Roverstore/Commercial Chat

[Hasta]

3 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

I think you should look at the legal case involving the Oystons to see the difference between them and the Raos.

You said you couldn’t see any similarities. You got told some. Nobody said there weren’t any differences.

Edited January 17 by Hasta

[only2garners]

1 hour ago, only2garners said:

We agreed them late yesterday - just waiting for them to be put on the website.

They should be up now.

[Herbie6590]

9 hours ago, arbitro said:

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2024/january/17/lead-the-lads-out-against-wrexham-/

Rovers are asking for mascots for the Wrexham match for £150. The caveat is that they have to provide their own kit and can use any one of the three we have. On a related note I have been told that the players have been told not to swap or give away shirts because the club has run out. Perhaps D-Day Read should be looking into embarrassments like this rather than dreaming up schemes to alienate supporters.

Is this really what we have become?

We can sort out some retro ones 😉

[wilsdenrover]

20 minutes ago, only2garners said:

They should be up now.

https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gc-media-assets.gc.roversservices.co.uk/adfb1f50-b56e-11ee-82fd-c198e3265aca.pdf

[Mattyblue]

It’s hard to compete according to Swag as ’other clubs have bigger crowds and have bigger commercial opportunities’

Ah well, why even bother trying then as there’s obviously nowt the CEO and Commercial team can do to impact that.

Edited January 17 by Mattyblue

[wilsdenrover]

5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

It’s hard to compete according to Swag as ’other clubs have bigger crowds and have bigger commercial opportunities’

Ah well, why even bother trying then as there’s obviously nowt the CEO and Commercial team can do to impact that.

Whether you think you can or you think you can’t, you are right.

[Upside Down]

26 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

We can sort out some retro ones 😉

A million times better than the shit the club produces anyway.

For one it doesn't have a vape logo emblazoned across it.

[Ben-2000]

Thanks to all involved for posing the questions.

But how on earth can he say it's not envisaged because of the owners (blah blah blah) when it's completely out of his and their hands?!

If they are prevented from paying their dues by the Indian Court then there's no other way of doing so and it's admin!

[Upside Down]

21 minutes ago, Ben-2000 said:

Thanks to all involved for posing the questions.

But how on earth can he say it's not envisaged because of the owners (blah blah blah) when it's completely out of his and their hands?!

If they are prevented from paying their dues by the Indian Court then there's no other way of doing so and it's admin!

He really is quite thick isn't he.

Oh well there is a light at the end of the tunnel and that light is administration.

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

It’s hard to compete according to Swag as ’other clubs have bigger crowds and have bigger commercial opportunities’

Ah well, why even bother trying then as there’s obviously nowt the CEO and Commercial team can do to impact that.

The owners financial support is supposed to help us compete that's the whole idea of it and same for most clubs in this league. We can't outspend the big ones but we should be able to compete with the other two thirds of the league and we mostly were until the downgrading started again.

So you have to draw conclusions that this white flag hoister doesn't want to compete he wants to shrink it all because it's easier to do that.

[rigger]

11 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

It’s hard to compete according to Swag as ’other clubs have bigger crowds and have bigger commercial opportunities’

Ah well, why even bother trying then as there’s obviously nowt the CEO and Commercial team can do to impact that.

The questions should have been asked ; Why do other clubs have bigger crowds and what is being done to improve ours ?

[Mattyblue]

Swag answered it - ‘Other clubs are in larger communities’.

No ‘think big’ here. We are ‘small’ and that’s that.

[rigger]

26 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Swag answered it - ‘Other clubs are in larger communities’.

No ‘think big’ here. We are ‘small’ and that’s that.

If Swag gives that answer then the next question should be ; What are we doing to make our community larger ? (every time Swag answers, ask another pertinant question, do not just accept what he says as a valid reason). 

[roverblue]

The Preston situation is a good example he cant hide from, season ticket prices went down and crowds and revenues went up. Case study shows it works and its down the road with similar size/demographics.

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, roverblue said:

The Preston situation is a good example he cant hide from, season ticket prices went down and crowds and revenues went up. Case study shows it works and its down the road with similar size/demographics.

I think a good question to ask directly at Swag is ; What is your preference, a target for you, set by money received, or one set by season tickets sold ?

[Mattyblue]

Money received.

If just one person bought a ST for £3million he’d be delighted. Think of the savings he could make on stewarding, cleaners etc.

Edited January 18 by Mattyblue

[47er]

19 minutes ago, roverblue said:

The Preston situation is a good example he cant hide from, season ticket prices went down and crowds and revenues went up. Case study shows it works and its down the road with similar size/demographics.

And Bolton.

[tomphil]

20 minutes ago, roverblue said:

The Preston situation is a good example he cant hide from, season ticket prices went down and crowds and revenues went up. Case study shows it works and its down the road with similar size/demographics.

But he'd argue the crowds wouldn't double and the matchday costs would increase so revenue would take a hit.

That's what we are dealing with, a defeatist.

[47er]

13 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

We can sort out some retro ones 😉

Not long before all the mascots we can find at Ewood are in their sixties!

[rigger]

20 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Money received.

If just one person bought a ST for £3million he’d be delighted. Think of the savings he could make on stewarding, cleaners etc.

The question should be put to Swag, not answered by you, unless you are Swag !

[JHRover]

The problem we have is that Waggott considers only Blackburn and Darwen to be our 'community'. He doesn't consider Chorley, Leyland, Clitheroe, Whalley, Accrington, Rishton, Clayton, Harwood, Ossy, Haslingden or anywhere else to be anything to do with Rovers. 

Evidence? Well I doubt he or anyone else can point me towards one single act he has taken in 6 years to encourage, promote, develop, entice support from any of those regions.

Lets be honest they do hardly anything in Blackburn or Darwen either, but at least the community trust sends a couple of players out on their afternoon off to visit a primary school from time to time. 

It's the first fundamental mistake of a non-East Lancs outsider who comes in and assumes that Rovers=Blackburn and that 20,000 a week are going to wander down from Mill Hill ,Darwen, Feni. 

I think anyone who goes to Ewood will know that a very large portion - if I were a betting man close to if not more than 50% - of our season ticket holders - reside outside of BwD. Of course he will have quick access to this data.

Fundamentally though it is easier to make excuses - like he's done with regularity since he arrived - than do anything to address it. He's now got another recently made up excuse that threatens the very future of our support base and club which is that we 'can't' target non-BwD areas because it would cause complaints from rival League clubs. I'd suggest he should resign immediately if he accepts that.

[Mattyblue]

Oh sorry rigger. Best lock the thread then as I doubt he’ll be posting.

[RoversClitheroe]

What's the point of of these Fan Forums?

He doesn't get put under any pressure? 

Him saying we're small just shows his lack of ambition, did no one say "we are prem league winners with a massive catchment area, Bolton are bigger than us currently because he doesn't understand the fan base."

Edited January 18 by RoversClitheroe

[rigger]

14 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Oh sorry rigger. Best lock the thread then as I doubt he’ll be posting.

It was a question that should be put at FF meetings as that is what the thread is about.

[Mattyblue]

And I’m outlining the issues the FF have with him. I don’t envy them.