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[jim mk2]

I remember an early 1980s (I think it was), end of season game against Chelsea, crowd less than 5,000 IIRC, awful game, the Chelsea hooligans stormed the Blackburn End, the club and football itself felt like it was dying. 

[wilsdenrover]

  On 31/12/2024 at 11:14, Forever Blue said:

Putin could pass the ‘fit and proper’ test. It’s hardly robust. 

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He’s probably one of the very few who wouldn’t pass it.

Hardly an endorsement  mind - it needs a total overhaul.

For a start it should be an ongoing test, not a one off ‘time of purchase’ thing.

 

 

[Penwortham Blue]

  On 31/12/2024 at 12:07, jim mk2 said:

I remember an early 1980s (I think it was), end of season game against Chelsea, crowd less than 5,000 IIRC, awful game, the Chelsea hooligans stormed the Blackburn End, the club and football itself felt like it was dying. 

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I earned my spurs in the 80’s, yes the crowds were smaller, across all clubs, but it all felt a lot more passionate. I can remember going up to the Toon to watch Rovers, in front of a crowd of about 11/12,000 either though they will swear blind they have always had 10,000 locked out every game !

[roversfan99]

  On 31/12/2024 at 07:36, Paul Mani said:

EVERYTHING about the next two games says we’ll lose. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if this manager and team pull something miraculous out of the hat and win both. I genuinely think we’re most dangerous in these moments

Let’s see.

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"Miracles" dont surprise you? 

[Parsonblue]

  On 31/12/2024 at 10:14, RevidgeBlue said:

Yeah, because it happened forty to fifty years ago doesn't excuse it right now though Parson.

Back then we genuinely didn't have the proverbial pot to **** in.

These days we have incredibly rich owners, who, latterly at least, won't spend any money despite flogging off nearly all the family silver.

Happy New Year to you and all the best.

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All the best to you Rev for the New Year.  My point was that having followed Rovers for 60 odd years, post Christmas collapses are nothing new.  I think this January the owners have to back the manager or the consequences will be felt when trying to flog season tickets in the summer.  New signings won't guarantee us a top six spot but it will give us a fighting chance.  This is arguably the best manager we have had since we came out of the Premier League.  If we don't back him then I'm sure it won't be long before more ambitious clubs come along and take him from us.  We have seen it all too often before.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 31/12/2024 at 12:09, wilsdenrover said:

He’s probably one of the very few who wouldn’t pass it.

Hardly an endorsement  mind - it needs a total overhaul.

For a start it should be an ongoing test, not a one off ‘time of purchase’ thing.

 

 

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Do they not have to at least prove they have the wherewithal to fund the Club for the next 12 months on an annual basis or am I imagining that?

As long as a potential owner has the funds and has no previous Criminal record it's a bit of a dangerous thing having the Footballing Authorities having too much of a say as to whether an owner is "fit and proper".

If they get the power to veto an owner because they think said owner might run the Club badly they might equally decide to veto an owner because they didn't want them doing too well.

[wilsdenrover]

  On 31/12/2024 at 12:17, RevidgeBlue said:

Do they not have to at least prove they have the wherewithal to fund the Club for the next 12 months on an annual basis or am I imagining that?

As long as a potential owner has the funds and has no previous Criminal record it's a bit of a dangerous thing having the Footballing Authorities having too much of a say as to whether an owner is "fit and proper".

If they get the power to veto an owner because they think said owner might run the Club badly they might equally decide to veto an owner because they didn't want them doing too well.

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I don’t think so (not as part of the ownership test anyway)

There are requirements under FFP regarding future years but these are (I believe) a completely separate  thing. 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by wilsdenrover

[Penwortham Blue]

  On 31/12/2024 at 12:13, Penwortham Blue said:

I earned my spurs in the 80’s, yes the crowds were smaller, across all clubs, but it all felt a lot more passionate. I can remember going up to the Toon to watch Rovers, in front of a crowd of about 11/12,000 either though they will swear blind they have always had 10,000 locked out every game !

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Just checked this one and crowd was bigger than I recalled, albeit there was a good Rovers contingent amongst the 20,000 crowd.

[Mattyblue]

14,000 average attendance at Newcastle the season Keegan arrived… so bear that in mind as we are inundated with all this ‘uniquely passionate fanbase’ stuff from the media.

[Upside Down]

  On 31/12/2024 at 08:35, Parsonblue said:

To be fair, I remember going through similar experiences in the 60s, 70s and 80s.  Top or thereabouts at Christmas and then fall away immediately after for a variety of reasons including a lack of funds. 

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No comparison at all there.

The lack of funding never stopped us from being ambitious back then.

Now the deliberately imposed lack of funding is used as one of many excuses as to why we can't possibly even think about achieving anything as a club.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

  On 31/12/2024 at 12:41, Mattyblue said:

14,000 average attendance at Newcastle the season Keegan arrived… so bear that in mind as we are inundated with all this ‘uniquely passionate fanbase’ stuff from the media.

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Im sure Rovers played that season at St James with Newcastle managed by Ardiles mid week and the gate was 8,500 although it could have been the season before

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 31/12/2024 at 14:06, Upside Down said:

No comparison at all there.

The lack of funding never stopped us from being ambitious back then.

Now the deliberately imposed lack of funding is used as one of many excuses as to why we can't possibly even think about achieving anything as a club.

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Staying in this league is their idea of “ achievement “. Promotion ? Why ? Whatever for ? So the full glare of publicity can be shone on them and their dodgy dealings ? I don’t think so. 

[onlyonejackwalker]

  On 31/12/2024 at 14:06, Upside Down said:

No comparison at all there.

The lack of funding never stopped us from being ambitious back then.

Now the deliberately imposed lack of funding is used as one of many excuses as to why we can't possibly even think about achieving anything as a club.

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In the 2022 to 2023 season we lost 17.8 million and had a wage to turnover ratio of 123%. 

Sales from Wharton and Sammie will negate similar losses for 23 / 24 and 24 / 25.

I can only presume they are hoping and praying we somehow magically scrape into the PL so they can try and sell and get some money back.

They would struggle to give the club away with such dire income and huge losses.

 

[Parsonblue]

  On 31/12/2024 at 14:06, Upside Down said:

No comparison at all there.

The lack of funding never stopped us from being ambitious back then.

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We didn't really seem an ambitious club when the likes of Pickering, England, Newton, Fergie, Hole, Knighton were all sold without adequate replacements coming in.  Fortunately, we appointed astute managers, like the present one, who could make do and mend.  But in the end Furphy, Lee, Smith and Kendall all left to join more ambitious clubs.  My fear is that Eustace will become another manager we lose if we don't support him.

As for the game tomorrow, I'll be going hoping for the best but fearing the worst.  I'd happily settle for a boring 0-0.

Edited December 31, 2024 by Parsonblue

[Neal]

For anyone with a decent voice who's going... Please get some chants going for Ludo. Our greatest player never to wear the shirt. 

[wilsdenrover]

  On 31/12/2024 at 17:38, Neal said:

For anyone with a decent voice who's going... Please get some chants going for Ludo. Our greatest player never to wear the shirt. 

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In case people haven’t heard:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgj6p83w17vo

(I presume this is what you’re referring to)

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[Mattyblue]

Despite not having a pot to piss in In we had six seasons in the second tier top 6 through the 80s, seems pretty ambitious to me.

[Penwortham Blue]

  On 31/12/2024 at 18:01, Mattyblue said:

Despite not having a pot to piss in In we had six seasons in the second tier top 6 through the 80s, seems pretty ambitious to me.

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Parson is referring to pre 80’s, whilst you are referencing the 80’s, both are valid historical points.

[Old Codger]

I don't think anyone has any rose-tinted spectacular views on our prospects for tomorrow's game, especially as we've stuttered somewhat since losing the steadying influence of our Captain shithouse who, despite being tarred by some with the harsh brush of anonymity, has quietly provided much needed backbone and steel upon which the team has flourished this season.

This is one game where we definitely need Mr Todd Cantwell to show some of his better qualities and to lead by example. We know that we will concede chances, and that we are vulnerable down the right flank, but we can also create chances too. On the day it will be a question of holding our nerve, riding our luck and shouting on the brave Blue and White army to deliver their best for the massed ranks of fans who have made the short ish journey.

Would like to think we can pull a rabbit from the hat, but am more inclined it will just be a dog eared sock puppet, stained with Christmas drink..Based on the second half performances against the Mackems and Humberside's finest it seems unlikely that we will suddenly click in front of goal, and therefore we will need a stellar show from our rearguard.

New Years Day Cheer - an honourable draw for the boys in pink or blue and white

New Years Day Roar - Rovers complete an unexpected double over one of the favourites for promotion in 2025

New Years Day Hangover - Worse than an episode of Doctor Who, not even watchable from behind the sofa where one has collapsed due to over-libation and fear of peeking out between fingers over the forehead..

But Hey Ho - COME ON YOU BLUES!!

[Gav]

Last seasons game at Elland Rd for me would mark the turning point for Aynsley Pears, he was outstanding on the day and has gone on to prove everyone wrong.

I think he’s going to be busy again tomorrow.

Leeds 1 Rovers 1

[Mattyblue]

  On 31/12/2024 at 18:30, Penwortham Blue said:

Parson is referring to pre 80’s, whilst you are referencing the 80’s, both are valid historical points.

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Think he was referring to both. No billionaires in the 80s, still ambitious.

[Michael123458]

  On 30/12/2024 at 13:02, RevidgeBlue said:

I'm afraid you're going to be sorely disappointed.

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Leeds away and dingles at home literally in the space of 72 hours doesn’t happen very often. Embrace it look forward to it because it’s what life’s about. Forget the bollox about there favourites we might struggle we’ve not got a goal scorer you just need luck on days like these. All the best fella and WERE BLACKBURN ROVERS!! 👍👍

[Andy]

  On 31/12/2024 at 19:52, Michael123458 said:

Leeds away and dingles at home literally in the space of 72 hours doesn’t happen very often. Embrace it look forward to it because it’s what life’s about. Forget the bollox about there favourites we might struggle we’ve not got a goal scorer you just need luck on days like these. All the best fella and WERE BLACKBURN ROVERS!! 👍👍

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Can we hire you for the team talks?

You're right though.
If we've learned nothing else under Eustace, it's that we're capable of turning the 'favourites' over in big games.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 31/12/2024 at 19:52, Michael123458 said:

Leeds away and dingles at home literally in the space of 72 hours doesn’t happen very often. Embrace it look forward to it because it’s what life’s about. Forget the bollox about there favourites we might struggle we’ve not got a goal scorer you just need luck on days like these. All the best fella and WERE BLACKBURN ROVERS!! 👍👍

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You could have sat next to me in the dressing room. If you don’t think you can win when you run out you shouldn’t be playing. It’s 11 v 11, anything can happen. 

[roversfan99]

  On 31/12/2024 at 18:39, Gav said:

Last seasons game at Elland Rd for me would mark the turning point for Aynsley Pears, he was outstanding on the day and has gone on to prove everyone wrong.

I think he’s going to be busy again tomorrow.

Leeds 1 Rovers 1

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His turning point was the game before he kicked one into his own net?