v Preston (h) - 31/1/2025 - k/o 20:00

[Exiled_Rover]

2 minutes ago, Nic81 said:

Plymouth now leading against West Brom

Fingers crossed a patented Mowbray death spiral is incoming. 

[Roverthechimp]

24 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

our penalty was nailed on,preston defender lost the flight of the ball and did`nt know where he was,he clearly fouled hyam and nearly took his own player out as well

on their shout,gueye got lucky,though he did head the ball first,im`e never keen on strikers defending in our own box,thats why they are paid to play at the other end,the ref did`nt have a good game tbh,i thought he did a lot of guessing on the niggly fouls

To be honest i would have expected a free kick outside of the box unless the ref played advantage for some reason (not likely given it was potentially a head injury) so while it surprised me when given it was probably the right decision.

Thought the ref would actually give the PNE pen (to "even it up") but thought it was a header contested and won by Gueye without being a clear foul and he didn't lead with his arm.

Only seen extended highlights so can't comment on ref overall but thought he got these 2 decisions right on balance.

As for Pears - wtf was that for their goal?!?

 

[Andy]

6 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

To be honest i would have expected a free kick outside of the box unless the ref played advantage for some reason (not likely given it was potentially a head injury) so while it surprised me when given it was probably the right decision.

Thought the ref would actually give the PNE pen (to "even it up") but thought it was a header contested and won by Gueye without being a clear foul and he didn't lead with his arm.

Only seen extended highlights so can't comment on ref overall but thought he got these 2 decisions right on balance.

As for Pears - wtf was that for their goal?!?

 

Worryingly, he's showing signs of regressing in recent weeks - after quite a stable season.

Last night's goal was extremely soft, as were both goals at Oxford and on top of errors like Portsmouth at home and a number of fumbled catches / ones he's gotten away with.

JE is a smart chap; these performances won't be lost on him. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

17 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

As for Pears - wtf was that for their goal?!?

 

He's improved a lot but literally watched the Ball roll past him into the net last night.😦

Edited Saturday at 14:52 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[M_B]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

You think he "typically" has a good game?

I agreed with you, it was a "typical" performance.

Do you think he played well? Certainly everyone around us stood up and clapped him off

[M_B]

19 minutes ago, Andy said:

Worryingly, he's showing signs of regressing in recent weeks - after quite a stable season.

Last night's goal was extremely soft, as were both goals at Oxford and on top of errors like Portsmouth at home and a number of fumbled catches / ones he's gotten away with.

JE is a smart chap; these performances won't be lost on him. 

Keep it real, he'd absolutely no chance with the goal at Oxford for a start.

Edited Saturday at 15:04 by M_B

[roversfan99]

10 minutes ago, M_B said:

I agreed with you, it was a "typical" performance.

Do you think he played well? Certainly everyone around us stood up and clapped him off

Everyone gets clapped off for their efforts.

Good cross for the goal but in general, not particularly. Frustrating to watch him keep spurning potential attacking chances with bad decision making and trying needless tricks.

[M_B]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Everyone gets clapped off for their efforts.

Good cross for the goal but in general, not particularly. Frustrating to watch him keep spurning potential attacking chances with bad decision making and trying needless tricks.

I think he suffers same as Nyambe to be honest. People go into games looking for the negatives and don't acknowledge the positives.

Constantly highlight the negatives and don't acknowledge the positives and you soon have yourself a poorer player.

As I've said before, if the team as a whole puts in a poor performance, Dolan is criticised more than most, the criticism is disproportionate.

Edited Saturday at 15:21 by M_B

[roversfan99]

24 minutes ago, M_B said:

I think he suffers same as Nyambe to be honest. People go into games looking for the negatives and don't acknowledge the positives.

Constantly highlight the negatives and don't acknowledge the positives and you soon have yourself a poorer player.

As I've said before, if the team as a whole puts in a poor performance, Dolan is criticised more than most, the criticism is disproportionate.

Nyambe was popular probably beyond his limited capabilities. I certainly dont think he was targetted in any way.

Ive repeatedly acknowledged the good cross he put in and he has put a good cross in 2 or 3 times in recent weeks. He also undoubtedly works hard.

Does Dolan get a disproportionate amount of criticism? Maybe he does but then again, this season our issues have obviously been in attack, the defence has been consistently very good as have Tronstad and Travis.

It doesnt require confirmation bias to suggest that Dolan hasnt done anywhere near enough going forward. Hedges has also received his fair share of criticism too, same with Gueye until this last few games. Dolan having been here for so long frustrates more because it doesnt feel like he is becoming more productive or ironing out his flaws in any way. A few times yesterday he had the chance to do something and he proceeded to spin round, or start trying flicks, there was once in the second half where he had an overlapping run, tried a stupid backheel and gave the ball away. His end product in the main is still not good enough, he hasnt scored in something like 20 games. 

[Ghost7]

Some of Gueye's hold up play was outstanding last night and if Amari Bell can play in the Premier League then Callum Brittain wouldn't look out of place in it. Top right back at this level and our player of the season so far. Another thing that stood out to me again was how much more dynamic and mobile Beck is compared to Pickering. I like Pickering as a steady and honest player... but he hasn't offered us much bite at all for years in defence or going forward. We will miss Beck massively.

[Penwortham Blue]

2 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

Some of Gueye's hold up play was outstanding last night and if Amari Bell can play in the Premier League then Callum Brittain wouldn't look out of place in it. Top right back at this level and our player of the season so far. Another thing that stood out to me again was how much more dynamic and mobile Beck is compared to Pickering. I like Pickering as a steady and honest player... but he hasn't offered us much bite at all for years in defence or going forward. We will miss Beck massively.

We have looked at our best and picked best results up with Pickering playing behind Beck. Results went south when we lost Travis & Pickering and then conceded injury time winner at Millwall.

[M_B]

12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Nyambe was popular probably beyond his limited capabilities. I certainly dont think he was targetted in any way.

Ive repeatedly acknowledged the good cross he put in and he has put a good cross in 2 or 3 times in recent weeks. He also undoubtedly works hard.

Does Dolan get a disproportionate amount of criticism? Maybe he does but then again, this season our issues have obviously been in attack, the defence has been consistently very good as have Tronstad and Travis.

It doesnt require confirmation bias to suggest that Dolan hasnt done anywhere near enough going forward. Hedges has also received his fair share of criticism too, same with Gueye until this last few games. Dolan having been here for so long frustrates more because it doesnt feel like he is becoming more productive or ironing out his flaws in any way. A few times yesterday he had the chance to do something and he proceeded to spin round, or start trying flicks, there was once in the second half where he had an overlapping run, tried a stupid backheel and gave the ball away. His end product in the main is still not good enough, he hasnt scored in something like 20 games. 

That's another thing that happens on a regular basis, "Hedges and Dolan", as if people can't mention one without the other.

Dolan is, by far, the  more effective player. Put both up for sale and Dolan would be worth a lot more.

Going back to last night, can you think of anything else positive to comment on in Dolans performance, or was it just the one thing?

[Andy]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

Keep it real, he'd absolutely no chance with the goal at Oxford for a start.

I disagree - his positioning was poor and gave him a harder job to get across. Showed far too much of the goal to the Oxford lad.

Then the shot itself was quite soft - and he got a hand to it, but pushed it into the goal.

But his main failing here was his poor positioning.

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, M_B said:

That's another thing that happens on a regular basis, "Hedges and Dolan", as if people can't mention one without the other.

Dolan is, by far, the  more effective player. Put both up for sale and Dolan would be worth a lot more.

Going back to last night, can you think of anything else positive to comment on in Dolans performance, or was it just the one thing?

In attack, nothing springs to mind. He presumably did do one or two other bits and pieces but obviously I cant remember everything that he did. And his cross was a big contribution. He worked hard in general to get back into shape etc when we lost the ball.

I dont think Hedges would have much interest at all. Championship wages, not at an age where he would have much value, injury history, and non existent attacking threat. A team would presumably gamble on Dolan as much for his age as anything. Being more productive than Hedges isnt a high bar though. I would agree that he is.

[onlyonejackwalker]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

I disagree - his positioning was poor and gave him a harder job to get across. Showed far too much of the goal to the Oxford lad.

Then the shot itself was quite soft - and he got a hand to it, but pushed it into the goal.

But his main failing here was his poor positioning.

Are you confusing Oxford with Bristol?

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

Keep it real, he'd absolutely no chance with the goal at Oxford for a start.

He got fortunate with really poor goalkeeping leading to the one that was thankfully offside v Oxford.

You shouldnt be beat on that side from a free kick but the deflection that wasnt obvious on first viewing does change that somewhat.

[Ghost7]

14 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

We have looked at our best and picked best results up with Pickering playing behind Beck. Results went south when we lost Travis & Pickering and then conceded injury time winner at Millwall.

 

Agree... honest and steady can be useful at times but I will never not think you need someone better than Pickering (to go for promotion). Beck has it IMO and will likely only get better.

[Tom]

2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

our penalty was nailed on,preston defender lost the flight of the ball and did`nt know where he was,he clearly fouled hyam and nearly took his own player out as well

on their shout,gueye got lucky,though he did head the ball first,im`e never keen on strikers defending in our own box,thats why they are paid to play at the other end,the ref did`nt have a good game tbh,i thought he did a lot of guessing on the niggly fouls

Whilst he’s clumsy I think he’s invaluable in our box; he got his head on quite a few of their crosses yesterday 

[Dreams of 1995]

25 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

He got fortunate with really poor goalkeeping leading to the one that was thankfully offside v Oxford.

You shouldnt be beat on that side from a free kick but the deflection that wasnt obvious on first viewing does change that somewhat.

It changes it completely, not somewhat

A deflection happening once a goalkeeper has dived means the goalie is relying now on luck

It is why not a lot of people can play well in goal. The ability to time your dive with where the ball is going to end up is rare; the best in the world may have cat like reflexes and be able to adjust. Unfortunately, those types of keepers are rare as rocking horse shit

It wasn’t his fault he conceded that free kick at all

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

7 hours ago, ... said:

Anyone else dealing with salty PNE fans this morning?

You only had 15k on

You're a tinpot club

you had 12 men....

 

lol 😢 

Winners are Grinners.

[Andy]

33 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Are you confusing Oxford with Bristol?

On checking, yes, I was - but my points stand.

He's been poor recently, I don't think anyone who has seen the goals we've conceded can deny that and keep a straight face.

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Yes, fortunate. I think we got away with one at the end.

Fine enough, agree to disagree here

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The thing is, our player could 2 foot an opposition player in the box and youd be insistent that it wasnt a penalty.

talking daft now RF99

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Its luck we will take but we got fortunate with poor refereeing decisions last night.

Not for me and interesting enough Eustace didn't think it was penalty. 

I don't think its a clear foul by Gueye, some refs will give it and some won't. Hyam one is clear as day. 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Id rather have a new winger than either Dolan or ACD to be honest. Its a position we could do with another option to give us some added pace and quality. Got lots of plodders.

Yes these plodders who got to 5th in the league. 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

6 hours ago, Gav said:

You said the same about Szmodics who was the same age, called him a waste of money and we know how that turned out.

I'm not saying Guere (Who?) is in Szmodics league, but the lad is improving. 

One thing we can agree on, is we both want him to do well and score loads of goals for Blackburn Rovers.

Imagine Gueye and Sammi playing together. They’d be a real combination.

[Ghost7]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Fine enough, agree to disagree here

talking daft now RF99

Not for me and interesting enough Eustace didn't think it was penalty. 

I don't think its a clear foul by Gueye, some refs will give it and some won't. Hyam one is clear as day. 

Yes these plodders who got to 5th in the league. 

 

 

There's a big difference between getting to 5th and finishing 5th.

[chaddyrovers]

35 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

 

There's a big difference between getting to 5th and finishing 5th.

That's why I have repeatably that our playoff chances rest on the striker signing we make in this window