Eustace…GONE

[Ricky]

Could have done without the 94th minute Cov winner tonight. A draw there would have been ideal 

[danger19_80]

1 minute ago, Ricky said:

Could have done without the 94th minute Cov winner tonight. A draw there would have been ideal 

Lampard has found his level i think. Why i'd take Gerrard personally. Not Rooney though.

[Miker]

I can’t believe what an absolute shambles this is. To leave a team in the top 6 for a poor team in a relegation scrap is a massive embarrassment for this club’s management team.. far more than even the diabolical mismanagement of the Lewis O’Brien transfer. 

Most depressingly for me is that I’m currently in the UK, for the first time in my 20 years supporting Rovers. When we first booked the trip, it was in mid-December and we had just come off our 6-match winning streak. I had some small hope that by the time I would arrive this week, we would still be doing well and there would be a somewhat positive atmosphere at the  stadium for my first trip to Ewood Park. But it seems as always, the post-Christmas collapse is well and truly on with an inexplicably shambolic situation behind the scenes. 

[NeilInBristol]

"Derby County were held to a goalless draw with Oxford United as the Rams continued negotiations to appoint Blackburn head coach John Eustace as their new boss.

The 45-year-old is understood to be poised to take over as Rams boss, but was not spotted in the stands at Pride Park as Derby's hierarchy worked through the evening to try complete a deal to have him swap a promotion push with Rovers for a relegation battle with the East Midlands side.

What he missed out on was an underwhelming draw that extended Derby's winless run to 10 matches across all competitions – although it was enough to lift them out of the drop zone on goal difference."

 

 

Well..

Well..

Well..

Our hierarchy is so poor he would swap potential promotion challenge with this lot. 

Says it all really.

Amazed he stayed as long as he did tbh

 

Good luck JE. You brought some joy to our fans and we played some good football at time. You did what you could with what you had and saved us from relegation and kept us dreaming once more...

Cheers

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just got a text from my grandson in reply to my observations about the situation - “ Still bought a ticket for Saturdays game, not going to let it stop me from going “.

I’m pleased he’s still keeping the faith in spite of everything.

[Browjd]

Derby are genuinely in big trouble…

[Leonard Venkhater]

Just now, Browjd said:

Derby are genuinely in big trouble…

Not big enough

[Madon]

The more I think about it the more I'm pissed off at Eustace. 

He knew what he was signing up for, Rovers are a shit show and have been for years. He signed the contract, he should see it out or at least have the decency to the supporters to see the season out with us sat in the play offs. 

Class A prick. 

[Exiled in Toronto Mk2]

35 minutes ago, 47er said:

Basically you think a manager should just stay win club whose owners ae making it impossible to do his job?

In any field of employment people want job satisfaction. At some point he was bound to see there was no point.

If they’d made it impossible we’d be 24th, not 6th. They certainly made it more difficult. My issue isn’t with him leaving, it’s with him spouting meaningless bollocks for a year.

[onlyonejackwalker]

12 minutes ago, Tony Rover said:

Yes he has done a bloody good job with the tools provided, remember we were nailed on to be relegated this season. Just imagine what we could of done with Szmodics in the team. The worry is always what next with Venkys at the helm..

We obviously weren't nailed on for relegation as we have been top six all year. That's just guesswork about relegation fodder. We have proved otherwise, despite no strikers.

Eustace united the group, focused on the defence and hard work, made us hard to beat whilst creating a very good team spirit. Nothing ground breaking, eminently sensible, the sum of the parts and all that.

I also believe Travis has played a major part this year. Not just on the pitch. He enjoyed a promotion campaign with Ipswich and came back full of belief and confidence. 

I'm looking forward to seeing how the players respond tomorrow. We might just get a no manager bounce!

[Eddie]

This is not me defending the club, but anyone on here that is claiming that Eustace is blameless in all of this is either being intentionally naive or simply doesn't believe that there can be multiple wrongs in the same story.

The club failed Eustace, as they have failed every manager before him, and continue to fail every supporter and member of staff of this club. Their wrongs and failures are more egregious and significant than anything that anyone else has done during their torrid time at the club - that involves Anderson, Kean, everyone. The club will only begin to have a sense of dignity and decency when they have left.

But...

They failed Eustace in a very predictable way and one that he should have been able to predict. Why? For the very reasons that I have laid out above. 

For him to turn his back on this club, his players, and our supporters after only 12 months is, quite frankly, unacceptable.

To have done so after preaching togetherness, toughness, and resilience makes him a liar. There are no two ways about it. To do so after potentially having applied for every job under the sun over the last few months...well...that makes him a scumbag.

He has convinced players to sign for this club during that time. He has advocated for, and seemingly pleaded with, players to get new contracts. He's almost lucky that our club is such a shambles that no one was offered an acceptable one. 

What makes this significant? 

He proves them right. He has only strengthened the position of Waggott and Gestede and everyone else at the top. Because they now get to turn to our uninterested owners and tell them that 'see, only we stick with you'. This is why you can't give managers any power. This is why you can't listen to anyone else. Only we are here through thick and thin. Only we have any loyalty. They're all just after the next payday. 

If you don't think that this is any way damaging and reinforces the awful structure that we have within this club, then you are a fool.

At least JDT had the decency to fire off a few warning shots before he left.

The only saving grace in all of this is that it is such a massive shambles that it is garnering (some) national attention. Will that be enough to change anything? I highly doubt it.

But this is another sad day in the history of Blackburn Rovers. The owners are mostly to blame, Waggott and his crew are also responsible, but Eustace leaves with blood on his hands. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Eddie

[onlyonejackwalker]

2 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

If they’d made it impossible we’d be 24th, not 6th. They certainly made it more difficult. My issue isn’t with him leaving, it’s with him spouting meaningless bollocks for a year.

Exactly.

Sure as shooting he'll be spouting togetherness, trust, unity and how proud he is of the group after Derby's next game.

[Nic81]

It’s even more frustrating that results seem to keep going our way. He would genuinely still have had a shot at top six. I hope the players rally tomorrow. And I hope negotiations don’t break down because his situation is now untenable. We would be left with a manager that clearly doesn’t want to be here and will have likely lost the dressing room. There is no way they would sack him as they wouldn’t want to pay him off! 

[B16Rover]

We're in the Venkys cycle now.  Will be relegated next year as the interest isn't there and contracts aren't renewing. 

 

Hope we find another Dack, Waggot eyes up his retirement and we stumble back up.  If we do the interest might pique like last time and hopefully whichever daft sod is in charge has no concept of 'projects' or 'the right way of doing things' 

 

That's about as optimistic as I can muster

[Exiled_Rover]

20 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

"Derby County were held to a goalless draw with Oxford United as the Rams continued negotiations to appoint Blackburn head coach John Eustace as their new boss.

The 45-year-old is understood to be poised to take over as Rams boss, but was not spotted in the stands at Pride Park as Derby's hierarchy worked through the evening to try complete a deal to have him swap a promotion push with Rovers for a relegation battle with the East Midlands side.

What he missed out on was an underwhelming draw that extended Derby's winless run to 10 matches across all competitions – although it was enough to lift them out of the drop zone on goal difference."

 

 

Well..

Well..

Well..

Our hierarchy is so poor he would swap potential promotion challenge with this lot. 

Says it all really.

Amazed he stayed as long as he did tbh

 

Good luck JE. You brought some joy to our fans and we played some good football at time. You did what you could with what you had and saved us from relegation and kept us dreaming once more...

Cheers

I wonder what they could possibly be negotiating?

[Exiled_Rover]

15 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Just got a text from my grandson in reply to my observations about the situation - “ Still bought a ticket for Saturdays game, not going to let it stop me from going “.

I’m pleased he’s still keeping the faith in spite of everything.

Should have held off - he could have had mine. 

[StHelensRover]

12 minutes ago, Eddie said:

This is not me defending the club, but anyone on here that is claiming that Eustace is blameless in all of this is either being intentionally naive or simply doesn't believe that there can be multiple wrongs in the same story.

The club failed Eustace, as they have failed every manager before him, and continue to fail every supporter and member of staff of this club. Their wrongs and failures are more egregious and significant than anything that anyone else has done during their torrid time at the club - that involves Anderson, Kean, everyone. The club will only begin to have a sense of dignity and decency when they have left.

But...

They failed Eustace in a very predictable way and one that he should have been able to predict. Why? For the very reasons that I have laid out above. 

For him to turn his back on this club, his players, and our supporters after only 12 months is, quite frankly, unacceptable.

To have done so after preaching togetherness, toughness, and resilience makes him a liar. There are no two ways about it. To do so after potentially having applied for every job under the sun over the last few months...well...that makes him a scumbag.

He has convinced players to sign for this club during that time. He has advocated for, and seemingly pleaded with, players to get new contracts. He's almost lucky that our club is such a shambles that no one was offered an acceptable one. 

What makes this significant? 

He proves them right. He has only strengthened the position of Waggott and Gestede and everyone else at the top. Because they now get to turn to our uninterested owners and tell them that 'see, only we stick with you'. This is why you can't give managers any power. This is why you can't listen to anyone else. Only we are here through thick and thin. Only we have any loyalty. They're all just after the next payday. 

If you don't think that this is any way damaging and reinforces the awful structure that we have within this club, then you are a fool.

At least JDT had the decency to fire off a few warning shots before he left.

The only saving grace in all of this is that it is such a massive shambles that it is garnering (some) national attention. Will that be enough to change anything? I highly doubt it.

But this is another sad day in the history of Blackburn Rovers. The owners are mostly to blame, Waggott and his crew are also responsible, but Eustace leaves with blood on his hands. 

I don't think many find Eustace completely innocent in all this, but he only gets about 10% of the blame from me and the other 90% goes squarely on the CEO, COO and the Indian Royal Family. He's annoyed me slightly with his behaviour but it pales in comparison to how angry I feel towards the other parties, it barely registers.

Edited 6 hours ago by StHelensRover

[onlyonejackwalker]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I wonder what they could possibly be negotiating?

Money. He's after a significant pay rise it's blatantly obvious.

[Exiled_Rover]

13 minutes ago, Eddie said:

This is not me defending the club, but anyone on here that is claiming that Eustace is blameless in all of this is either being intentionally naive or simply doesn't believe that there can be multiple wrongs in the same story.

The club failed Eustace, as they have failed every manager before him, and continue to fail every supporter and member of staff of this club. Their wrongs and failures are more egregious and significant than anything that anyone else has done during their torrid time at the club - that involves Anderson, Kean, everyone. The club will only begin to have a sense of dignity and decency when they have left.

But...

They failed Eustace in a very predictable way and one that he should have been able to predict. Why? For the very reasons that I have laid out above. 

For him to turn his back on this club, his players, and our supporters after only 12 months is, quite frankly, unacceptable.

To have done so after preaching togetherness, toughness, and resilience makes him a liar. There are no two ways about it. To do so after potentially having applied for every job under the sun over the last few months...well...that makes him a scumbag.

He has convinced players to sign for this club during that time. He has advocated for, and seemingly pleaded with, players to get new contracts. He's almost lucky that our club is such a shambles that no one was offered an acceptable one. 

What makes this significant? 

He proves them right. He has only strengthened the position of Waggott and Gestede and everyone else at the top. Because they now get to turn to our uninterested owners and tell them that 'see, only we stick with you'. This is why you can't give managers any power. This is why you can't listen to anyone else. Only we are here through thick and thin. Only we have any loyalty. They're all just after the next payday. 

If you don't think that this is any way damaging and reinforces the awful structure that we have within this club, then you are a fool.

At least JDT had the decency to fire off a few warning shots before he left.

The only saving grace in all of this is that it is such a massive shambles that it is garnering (some) national attention. Will that be enough to change anything? I highly doubt it.

But this is another sad day in the history of Blackburn Rovers. The owners are mostly to blame, Waggott and his crew are also responsible, but Eustace leaves with blood on his hands. 

Well there's a couple fewer season tickets in the Jack Walker Stand next year. We won't be the only ones. Let's see if Rudy and Steve can spin that into a win with the owners too.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Money. He's after a significant pay rise it's blatantly obvious.

I think he's after stability and assurances. The money will have been sounded out a week ago when they approached him initially.

You'd just think this would have all been ironed out before the official approach was made.

[RevidgeBlue]

16 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

"Derby County were held to a goalless draw with Oxford United as the Rams continued negotiations to appoint Blackburn head coach John Eustace as their new boss.

The 45-year-old is understood to be poised to take over as Rams boss, but was not spotted in the stands at Pride Park as Derby's hierarchy worked through the evening to try complete a deal to have him swap a promotion push with Rovers for a relegation battle with the East Midlands side.

What he missed out on was an underwhelming draw that extended Derby's winless run to 10 matches across all competitions – although it was enough to lift them out of the drop zone on goal difference."

 

 

Well..

Well..

Well..

Our hierarchy is so poor he would swap potential promotion challenge with this lot. 

Says it all really.

Amazed he stayed as long as he did tbh

 

Good luck JE. You brought some joy to our fans and we played some good football at time. You did what you could with what you had and saved us from relegation and kept us dreaming once more...

Cheers

I find it a bit odd that Derby seem to be having difficulty concluding negotiations with Eustace given how desperate he understandably is to get away from the circus at Ewood.

Maybe it's just me unrealistically hoping he'll come back. 

Technically he's still our manager I guess?

Shitshow/shambles you name it. None of it Eustace's fault. The Club removed their right to be aggrieved when they either insisted upon or agreed to the get out clause in his contract.

[simongarnerisgod]

5 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Money. He's after a significant pay rise it's blatantly obvious.

he`s going to derby,not real madrid🙂

[Mike E]

18 minutes ago, Madon said:

The more I think about it the more I'm pissed off at Eustace. 

He knew what he was signing up for, Rovers are a shit show and have been for years. He signed the contract, he should see it out or at least have the decency to the supporters to see the season out with us sat in the play offs. 

Class A prick. 

Doesn’t make any sense. That means the reciprocal must also apply: Clubs can never sack managers.

[Exiled_Rover]

9 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

We're in the Venkys cycle now.  Will be relegated next year as the interest isn't there and contracts aren't renewing. 

 

Hope we find another Dack, Waggot eyes up his retirement and we stumble back up.  If we do the interest might pique like last time and hopefully whichever daft sod is in charge has no concept of 'projects' or 'the right way of doing things' 

 

That's about as optimistic as I can muster

With how the club is currently being run - month to month - I would not be surprised if there's a winding up order as soon as this time next year when all of the money has run out.

I think we'll go out of business shockingly quickly.

[RevidgeBlue]

37 minutes ago, 47er said:

I'm impressed at how well the Club has done in deflecting the blame for what has happened, away from themselves and on to Eustace

That's all they exist for these days.

Absolutely useless at anything else.

 

Absolutely.