Eustace…GONE

[lraC]

30 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I don't think - still after all that has gone on and the warning signs we have seen - some people fully appreciate what a shit show this football club is and how infinitely preferable other operations are to this.

Too many people look at it with Rovers tinted glasses, or look at it based on current league positions, or make assumptions that things 'aren't that bad' at Ewood or that our budget whilst small is still comparable to rival clubs like Derby.

It's time to 'get real'. 

Derby are skint, yet financially in a better place than we are, despite going bust only a couple of years ago and just getting out of league one. Despite the fact that we've raked in over £40 million in player sales in the last 4 transfer windows.

I would suggest that EVERY other Championship club beats us hands down when it comes to: ownership, board, communication, transparency, investment, planning, organisation, ambition, contracts, transfers, and many other departments.

Eustace has about 15 months remaining on his contract here. He won't be getting an extension even if he wants one. Just like all our players won't be getting new deals and will leave between now and summer 2026. This isn't because they are all greedy, unreasonable, it is because the owners and their stooges will not sanction new deals.

With that in mind Eustace has an impossible job on his hands. The ONLY reason to reject Derby interest and stay is on the very very slim chance he gets us into the top 6 and then through the play-offs to the PL because that would enhance his CV massively. Anything short of that - including a top 6 finish but losing in the play-offs - keeps him as a Championship manager having to work in terrible conditions and facing another summer of Venky nonsense. He doesn't want it, no manager wants it.

He will have enough confidence in his abilities to get Derby safe between now and May and then he's in a far better position - CV enhanced further, and then at a club with support and a plan to look to the future.

This club is finished under these owners, and it is time some people woke up to this.

It’s taken Eustace less than 12 months to see how disfunctunal, the club really is.

It speaks volumes if he leaves to take over what is a difficult job in avoiding relegation. 

[bluebruce]

6 minutes ago, Tom said:

Anyone else expecting an announcement soon that he won’t be taking charge today for ‘reasons’?

No, I'm really not expecting him to go to Derby whatsoever tbh. Not until the summer.

[KentExile]

8 minutes ago, Cherry Blue said:

Is the assumption that Rovers have given permission for Derby to talk with JE?

confirmed that Derby have approached Rovers by Sky Sports News just now

Edited Sunday at 10:49 by KentExile

[Penwortham Blue]

1 minute ago, KentExile said:

confirmed by sky just now

FFS, this is just too ridiculous for words. A few hours before a match kicks off, you just couldn’t make it up. 

[roversinmyblood]

14 minutes ago, Madon said:

He's been in the odds for a few recent jobs that have come up, add in his link to Rovers and he would be the easy one to link. 

I thought that he’d just been managing in Ireland. Even if he has done really well there it is one heck of a jump from managing there to the championship, or have I missed something?
 

[jim mk2]

11 minutes ago, Tom said:

Anyone else expecting an announcement soon that he won’t be taking charge today for ‘reasons’?

He’ll be in charge today but likely gone before Wednesday’s WBA game

[vinotherover]

Sky reporting he's in advanced talks and his buyout clause is less than expected 

[SuperBrfc]

Personally think the Sigurdsson situation is the final straw that has led to this seemingly immediate departure to Derby.

If we think about it, Eustace is said to have offered his resignation twice last summer due to promises being reneged on. They managed to meet him halfway by bringing in a few signings.

Fast forward a few months, the January window has not gone the way Eustace wanted. He is saying "club signings" for a reason. To tell us that they, not he, picked them. He is distancing himself from those above him by often repeating "me and the players".

Based off the Sigurdsson article from yesterday, he mentions Eustace telling him that he had a key role to play in the remainder of the season. Clearly, Eustace wanted Siggy to stay.

If somebody above his head, has decided that Sigurdsson has to go then surely this would act as the final straw? It's not about the player's quality or fitness record, though that is what we discuss here.

It's a decision which makes Eustace look like a prick after he told the player he has a role to play. It makes the club look a joke. It's not right on Sigurdsson and I can see Eustace being gutted for him being omitted like this. It shows Eustace there's no chance with this lot running the place. I honestly think this is the tipping point. Not the main reason, but the one that has possibly made him think "I'm done. I need to get out. Now".

IMO, a combination of resignation already being in his mind (based on the summer), not being backed as he wanted last month, then seeing a player left out like that at the end. That's how I see it.

I wanted Eustace out very early doors due to his "no excuse culture" comments, thinking he was a Waggott stooge. I was wrong on that. This season, I saw a winning mentality from Eustace and that changed my view of him.

That's what I want to see from any Rovers manager, a desire to win. He was doing a superb job to have us in the mix and just needed reasonable backing from above. The bastards above have never had a winning aim at this club, however.

The man leaves similarly to JDT. Both managers were on our side. They had ambition and wanted Rovers to kick on, to go up. Both managers and the fans, have been let down by tossers that should be nowhere near the club.

Nothing changes for the better until the poison is removed from this club.

[Penwortham Blue]

Just now, jim mk2 said:

He’ll be in charge today but likely gone before Wednesday’s WBA game

Perfect timing for what is likely to be our most defining fixture of the season, so far !

[jim mk2]

3 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

FFS, this is just too ridiculous for words. A few hours before a match kicks off, you just couldn’t make it up. 

I wonder what the Rovers players will be talking about instead of concentrating on the game

[Polky]

 

[DE.]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

I wonder what the Rovers players will be talking about instead of concentrating on the game

Half of them out of contract in the summer, probably looking at the housing market in Derbyshire. 

[ElTwis]

If he's genuinely in talks then surely he doesn't take the match today. Although as I'm typing this the thought occurred - who at rovers cares enough to tell him to stay away.

[Cherry Blue]

8 minutes ago, KentExile said:

confirmed that Derby have approached Rovers by Sky Sports News just now

as much as I like JE, if this is true I don't want to see him at today's game. 

If fact Rovers or should I say waggott & co have shot themselves in the foot for today's game.

Venky's you're a disgrace!

 

[Andy]

Derby County.

Derby. County.
Not a bigger team with a greater history or fuller trophy cabinet; not one higher in the league/divisions than us.

You'd like to think it'll make people sit up and realise how bad things are here, but in reality, nobody outside of East Lancashire gives the slightest shit.
And even within East Lancashire, seemingly half of the supporter base are essentially those lemmings from that 90's PC game, all blindly queuing up to fall off a cliff face without questioning what's around them.

The world will keep turning, we'll appoint a whopper and we can look forward to League 1 in 18 months.

[lraC]

5 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

Personally think the Sigurdsson situation is the final straw that has led to this seemingly immediate departure to Derby.

If we think about it, Eustace is said to have offered his resignation twice last summer due to promises being reneged on. They managed to meet him halfway by bringing in a few signings.

Fast forward a few months, the January window has not gone the way Eustace wanted. He is saying "club signings" for a reason. To tell us that they, not he, picked them. He is distancing himself from those above him by often repeating "me and the players".

Based off the Sigurdsson article from yesterday, he mentions Eustace telling him that he had a key role to play in the remainder of the season. Clearly, Eustace wanted Siggy to stay.

If somebody above his head, has decided that Sigurdsson has to go then surely this would act as the final straw? It's not about the player's quality or fitness record, though that is what we discuss here.

It's a decision which makes Eustace look like a prick after he told the player he has a role to play. It makes the club look a joke. It's not right on Sigurdsson and I can see Eustace being gutted for him being omitted like this. It shows Eustace there's no chance with this lot running the place. I honestly think this is the tipping point. Not the main reason, but the one that has possibly made him think "I'm done. I need to get out. Now".

IMO, a combination of resignation already being in his mind (based on the summer), not being backed as he wanted last month, then seeing a player left out like that at the end. That's how I see it.

I wanted Eustace out very early doors due to his "no excuse culture" comments, thinking he was a Waggott stooge. I was wrong on that. This season, I saw a winning mentality from Eustace and that changed my view of him.

That's what I want to see from any Rovers manager, a desire to win. He was doing a superb job to have us in the mix and just needed reasonable backing from above. The bastards above have never had a winning aim at this club, however.

The man leaves similarly to JDT. Both managers were on our side. They had ambition and wanted Rovers to kick on, to go up. Both managers and the fans, have been let down by tossers that should be nowhere near the club.

Nothing changes for the better until the poison is removed from this club.

I just hope and pray that he states the real reason for leaving and not some made up platitude. He will rise massively in my opinion of him, if he does. 

[Cherry Blue]

3 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

Seems bizarre within two hours of a game. What are the Football Authorities doing? Surely this is bringing today's game into disrepute?

[ElTwis]

He won't sadly, no-one wants to step out of line for fear of angering agents

Edited Sunday at 11:02 by ElTwis

[lraC]

5 minutes ago, ElTwis said:

If he's genuinely in talks then surely he doesn't take the match today. Although as I'm typing this the thought occurred - who at rovers cares enough to tell him to stay away.

Cast your mind back to JDT being banned from the post match press conference. Anyone on the verge of saying it how it is, will be silenced. 

[roversinmyblood]

1 minute ago, lraC said:

I just hope and pray that he states the real reason for leaving and not some made up platitude. He will rise massively in my opinion of him, if he does. 

He won’t do that. It’s bad form to show your future employers that you’ll shit on them if you leave. It doesn’t go down well. 

[arbitro]

Waggott, Gestede and the other bloke will be typing up the NDA as we speak.

The club is a shambles.

[Penwortham Blue]

7 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

Derby County mindful that we have a game today but obviously @robDorsett and Sky don’t give a fuck !! Outrageous given that we are literally playing in a few hours.

[B16Rover]

Just now, arbitro said:

Waggott, Gestede and the other bloke will be typing up the NDA as we speak.

The club is a shambles.

Hope they forget to hit submit

[martonrover]

Just now, Cherry Blue said:

Seems bizarre within two hours of a game. What are the Football Authorities doing? Surely this is bringing today's game into disrepute?

Not if they have done it by the book.

It’s not Derby’s concern that we have a game today.

It’s surely now blindingly obvious, even to the “why would he go there?  I can’t see it”, people, that he wants the job.

[JHRover]

9 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

Personally think the Sigurdsson situation is the final straw that has led to this seemingly immediate departure to Derby.

If we think about it, Eustace is said to have offered his resignation twice last summer due to promises being reneged on. They managed to meet him halfway by bringing in a few signings.

Fast forward a few months, the January window has not gone the way Eustace wanted. He is saying "club signings" for a reason. To tell us that they, not he, picked them. He is distancing himself from those above him by often repeating "me and the players".

Based off the Sigurdsson article from yesterday, he mentions Eustace telling him that he had a key role to play in the remainder of the season. Clearly, Eustace wanted Siggy to stay.

If somebody above his head, has decided that Sigurdsson has to go then surely this would act as the final straw? It's not about the player's quality or fitness record, though that is what we discuss here.

It's a decision which makes Eustace look like a prick after he told the player he has a role to play. It makes the club look a joke. It's not right on Sigurdsson and I can see Eustace being gutted for him being omitted like this. It shows Eustace there's no chance with this lot running the place. I honestly think this is the tipping point. Not the main reason, but the one that has possibly made him think "I'm done. I need to get out. Now".

IMO, a combination of resignation already being in his mind (based on the summer), not being backed as he wanted last month, then seeing a player left out like that at the end. That's how I see it.

I wanted Eustace out very early doors due to his "no excuse culture" comments, thinking he was a Waggott stooge. I was wrong on that. This season, I saw a winning mentality from Eustace and that changed my view of him.

That's what I want to see from any Rovers manager, a desire to win. He was doing a superb job to have us in the mix and just needed reasonable backing from above. The bastards above have never had a winning aim at this club, however.

The man leaves similarly to JDT. Both managers were on our side. They had ambition and wanted Rovers to kick on, to go up. Both managers and the fans, have been let down by tossers that should be nowhere near the club.

Nothing changes for the better until the poison is removed from this club.

Fully agree. There's been something 'off' with the Sigurdsson situation for some time now.

There was a 'rumour' doing the rounds that there had been a falling out between Sigurdsson and Eustace after he wanted to put him in the U21s and he 'refused'. I'm increasingly of the view that is nonsense fed by someone else behind the scenes.

One thing Eustace has done exceedingly well in his time here is to create a close knit hard working group and he just doesn't seem the type for having a 'bust up' with one player. 

In the run up to January Eustace was, surprisingly I must say, very clear that he had plans for Sigurdsson and wanted him involved. Sigurdsson was putting stuff on Instagram about him training and involved with the team at Brockhall. 

Then the club have signed all this lot and Eustace has been clear that some or all are not his signings. 

I suspect there are financial/contractual shenanigans taking place with Sigurdsson and the club are trying, and succeeding, in forcing him out the door, against the manager's wishes, because he's costing too much for their liking.

Could well be the final straw for Eustace. Don't blame him. Don't blame anyone for wanting out of this cess pit.