Eustace…he gone…*official*

[davulsukur]

As others have said, Derby will have already been in touch with Eustace and his agent. There is very little chance they would have made an official approach if they hadn't had encouragement that he would take the job.

[Eddie]

Just now, Iceman said:

Should we warn the next potential manager? 

Whoever comes in next will look at JDT freezing himself out, Eustace basically walking out, and think that everything is fine.

How would they possibly read the tea leaves?

But, no. We will get a manager in who knows exactly what the problems are, but who will know this is one of the best 30 jobs in English football and one of the best 100 jobs in European football and will jump at the chance to get back into football, or raise their profile, or believe that they've seen enough from what Eustace and JDT to think that they have a chance of getting things right for 12 months and getting us promoted. 

The money won't hurt. 

 

[Iceman]

Welcome to Rovers Wayne Rooney 

[TugaysMarlboro]

1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Rob Edward's will be the man in the dug out, come this time next week, I reckon. 

I had a look at out of work managers last night on transfermarkt.

Some names that popped out were:

Valerian Ismael 

Rob Edwards

David Wagner

 

I even saw Billy Davies on the list and wouldn't put it past this lot.

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, Eddie said:

You're correct. I should have just assumed that he was an idiot from the get-go and realised that he was incapable of realising that the club was lacking in ambition and dysfunctional before he joined. 

Not like there were obvious signs or anything...

Maybe he was told the lies you're accusing him of 

[philipl]

Just now, Iceman said:

Welcome to Rovers Wayne Rooney 

That for sure is not happening. We will never pay the asking wage.

[martonrover]

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

There will be out of work managers interested. They’ll be thinking they can also a “ Eustace “ in twelve months time. We’re just a “ stopping off shop “. 

We’re just one poor one of said managers from relegation.

We have now hit our annual brick wall, but Eustace has done brilliantly to get us where we are.

With the people above him, sustaining it is nigh on impossible.

[Bethnal]

Just now, philipl said:

That for sure is not happening. We will never pay the asking wage.

I feel like at this point, Wayne Rooney would pay a club to let him manage, because I don’t know why else you’d get him in.

[Iceman]

3 minutes ago, Bethnal said:

Sure but consider the fact that - whatever happens this season (and we’re not going up, we’re very likely not making the playoffs): there are only 13 of our 25 registered first team players that are contracted beyond the end of the season. Then look at where we are in the table, then look at how much we’ve brought in in transfer fees, then look at how much we’ve spent since and - while considering where we are in the table - look really closely at who we brought in over January. Why would you risk having to manage 13 players, plus youth prospects and whoever you can get in on a free, especially when the club has no intention of renewing contracts? If the job isn’t there in the summer, what do you tell your family? “Sorry, I realise the effect this job is having on us, but sticking it out and turning down that job in February was the right thing to do for the fans”? Nah.

So here's a question though. If JE leaves, should the fans kick off with a massive protest for Venkys out? With 15 games to go, should the fans forget about the playoffs and start the Venkys Out action plan 

[Leonard Venkhater]

32 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Did Dick want to move nearer to the North  East ? Funny how he chose Oldham !

And Hendry said he wanted to live in Scotland...ended up at Derby then Bolton

[TugaysMarlboro]

1 minute ago, Bethnal said:

I feel like at this point, Wayne Rooney would pay a club to let him manage, because I don’t know why else you’d get him in.

He came across as desperate on the last overlap podcast I saw regarding "getting back in".

A big no from me too.

Edited February 9 by TugaysMarlboro

[Ferrit]

Rooney would be a shocking appointment, wouldn't be at all surprised if it happened.

[Polky]

6 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Rob Edward's will be the man in the dug out, come this time next week, I reckon. 

I think the same, will be Edwards or someone of that ilk.

 

[Eddie]

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Maybe he was told the lies you're accusing him of 

I'm sure he was told lies, but that still doesn't mean he's not an idiot for believing them.

If the owners had only been around for a year or two and been able to say that the JDT fiasco was an outlier, then I could understand believing the promises. But he had 10+ years of evidence and probably a fair amount of inside-football information to let him know exactly how this club is run.

We all know from the Andy Cole story that Waggott that he's been a known quantity for 30 years. It would take 5 phone calls to get a good sense of what this club is about. Wouldn't you do that? When I take on new jobs I do a bit of my own due diligence and that is a lot harder than it would be to get information about a football club that has 30 first-team players a season, multiple former coaches, former senior staff, etc. 

70% of the players we sign talk about reaching out to a former Rover and asking them if it is a good place to play. You don't think Eustace didn't do the same? Couldn't have got a quick call with JDT or his agent to get a sense of exactly what happened? Spoken to Coyle? Lambert? Bowyer? Mowbray? It's a long list.

I think he knew exactly what he was getting himself into. 

[philipl]

Anyone fancy Derby's chances of staying up at Plymouth's expense?

They have just beaten Liverpool and unlike Derby, seriously strengthened in January.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Rooney would be worse than Coyle. So it's likely.

[BankEnd Rover]

Just now, Polky said:

I think the same, will be Edwards or someone of that ilk.

 

He just fits the bill, strikes me as a nice guy and a yes men...Then again I thought that of Eustace.

 

[London blue]

39 minutes ago, Iceman said:

And again, him leaving because of Venkys, is something nobody is shocked about. I have no idea, how many times I have to repeat the same thing to you, as to why him leaving the players and fans hanging mid season, isn't an issue to you and a few others. If he was hellbent on leaving because of assurances not being met, why did he not quit already, before the Derby offer came in. If he was a man of moral standings, and one that would not allow liars in his life, then he should have walked away from it. 

Because walking away from a job with nothing lined up when you have a family is foolhardy?

[StHelensRover]

Am I right in thinking Rooney basically managed Plymouth for free? No one tell our owners he'll be given the job for life 

[BigHoz]

 

2 minutes ago, Iceman said:

So here's a question though. If JE leaves, should the fans kick off with a massive protest for Venkys out? With 15 games to go, should the fans forget about the playoffs and start the Venkys Out action plan 

Absolutely, outside the stadium. Support the lads inside, then after the final whistle 👍 those who refuse to go to the games should be outside making a noise. 14 years and counting, yet another demoralising day for the fans/circus. 

[JHRover]

I agree that Rooney or Gerrard would be too high profile for this lot, plus even they would get fed up with Venky nonsense and walk out within a year as they can afford to and don't need the cash.

Waggott and the Venky dogsbody will want someone low profile who won't attract a media circus to the club which could shine a light on what they are up to behind the scenes. So it will be someone low key. 

They will also try to get someone who will tolerate their nonsense and not resign or look for a route out of here - so in that case it will be a desperado.

I would be expecting names like Mike Beale, Ryan Lowe, Paul Warne and Ian Evatt.

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I think he knew exactly what he was getting himself into. 

Maybe, maybe not. He might have come here hoping it would change, but in reality it was unworkable and far worse than he ever imagined it to be.

The worst part is the message it sends out round the game to other prospective (decent) managers - that the club does not function properly and should be avoided

 

[Gav]

If Eustace walks nobody can blame him, like every manager before him, promised so much and given so little, its always the case. He never applied for West Brom or Coventry jobs, thats nonsence, but he's been cherry picked here for the Derby job and I think he'll go.

The next appointment is irrelevant to me, its rinse and repeat.

VENKYS OUT – NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

Edited February 9 by Gav

[Iceman]

Venkys Out! 

[roverstdt]

Personally I would

be highly surprised if Eustace left. Derby may be a bigger club attendance wise etc… Square is weaker they are in a tough predicament. Eustace has done a wonderful job gras isn’t always greener