Eustace…he gone…*official*

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24 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

No, I don't think he will either, at best he'd be a last ditch effort by a newly promoted club to keep them up but other than that, I think he's done.

The issue is that footballers and football managers tend to believe their own hype and he'll probably wait it out for some time before the realisation sets in that he's going to have to drop into the championship.

There is obviously the other issue that he's a Dingle Legend, so probably would avoid us on that basis alone.

And also would likely take a bung to see us relageted to pleasington Sunday league

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When do the protests start again?

[martonrover]

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

How are going to do then to make Suhail feel the heat? 

I’ll just nip down to Currys  😉

If folk have his email address, drop him a line.

He’s @PashaSapss on X.

Ire in the stadium needs to be directed at him, more so than at Waggott.

[benhben]

Two exciting managers in a row have now seen through the board and given up. I initially wondered why hed leave to go to Derby, but its pretty obvious after reading the LET article. They sell and Re-invest. We have 13 players out of contract or on loan. 

I said a couple of months ago I genuinely think the club will slip into oblivion/administration in the not too distant future. This might be the start of it. 

Some sort of mass protest needs to be held. The board, Waggot and Venkys get off too easily. Its not even been mentioned in the media for years other than the LET.

[Waggy76]

14 minutes ago, KentExile said:

During the game on Sunday, the TV cameras panned towards Waggott more than once.  I think it was Suhail was sat next to him the first time, but there was an empty seat next to Waggott from then on.

He doesn't like the spotlight

 

Very true , he lives somewhere though !

[lraC]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

How are you going out him? 

I'm not  on my own, but if the desire was there and the fans saw him for what he is, then it could happen.

Sadly, I suspect that too many people will shrug their shoulders and accept the next load of bullshit they will be fed, this time, about a manager, who was on the verge of bringing the highest finish, since relegation. 

Nothing to see here, he just wanted to move for lot's of other reason, but nothing to do with the club/ Pasha, failing to deliver on the promises they made.

[rog of the rovers]

10 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Yes - practically identical returns and from memory Bowyer and Lambert had very similar numbers too.

Bowyer 1.44 points per game

Lambert 1.27 points per game

[TheRevAshton]

What time does training start at Brockhall these days?

Doubt JE will be taking today's session, to say the least... this can't be good for the lads, especially with a 6-pointer coming up against WBA. Big loss on the cards on Wednesday.

[den]

9 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Jackson pretty scathing for an LT reporter in his latest column

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24922325.blackburn-failed-john-eustace-mistakes/

I can’t read the article but the comments are “interesting”. If anyone is thinking about organising protests, take these into consideration. There are still plenty of fans around who think Eustace has been backed all the way by the owners. I met one on Friday. Apparently when he’s asked for players, he’s got them.

[LeftWinger]

My current feelings on a replacement:

Yes pile:

Dyche, Martin, Duff, Cooper, Edwards, Carsley, O'Neil, Ismael

Maybe:

Hughes, Critchley, Harris

No thanks:

Evatt, Bruce, Warnock, Warne, Gerrard, Rooney, Lowe

I know which pile we are most likely to appoint from. 

 

[benhben]

7 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

I have always thought there is something more sinister to the Venkys ownership of Blackburn Rovers , from Day 1 there was 

speculation in the National Press that the whole takeover was not right .

 

In my mind, they deliberately keep us shit. Any sniff at improvement, they take away. I genuinely think they want to keep us as a loss making entity for some financial reason like Tax. If you make a loss you can offset a bunch of taxes that end up saving you money overall....especially if youre worth billions.

[Gav Mac]

5 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

What time does training start at Brockhall these days?

Doubt JE will be taking today's session, to say the least... this can't be good for the lads, especially with a 6-pointer coming up against WBA. Big loss on the cards on Wednesday.

Doubt they’d have training today. Be a rest and recover day. 

[Forever Blue]

18 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Jackson pretty scathing for an LT reporter in his latest column

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24922325.blackburn-failed-john-eustace-mistakes/

could someone please copy the article into here? Can’t access it. Thanks

[Waggy76]

1 minute ago, benhben said:

In my mind, they deliberately keep us shit. Any sniff at improvement, they take away. I genuinely think they want to keep us as a loss making entity for some financial reason like Tax. If you make a loss you can offset a bunch of taxes that end up saving you money overall....especially if youre worth billions.

Quite possible !

[TheRevAshton]

Just now, Forever Blue said:

could someone please copy the article into here? Can’t access it. Thanks

Blackburn Rovers have shot themselves in the foot for a second time in 12 months, with another successful head coach on the brink of departure.

Rovers fans will soon be campaigning for February 9 to be abolished. Not even the best script writer would plot an official approach for John Eustace on the day of his one-year anniversary as head coach.

It was 12 months exactly since the previous incumbent officially parted ways that Eustace was fielding questions on his future. 

There were 15 minutes between Rovers' announcements marking the end of Jon Dahl Tomasson's tenure and appointing Eustace. That won't be the same this time around. Whilst Eustace diplomatically stated he would hold talks with the board, everyone expects this to go one way. 

It would be naïve to think otherwise, considering Derby's confidence to make a firm play for a head coach positioned 16 places above them in the Championship table. You don't do that unless there's been a nod and a wink that you've got a mighty good chance of landing your target.

Whilst Eustace will not go out in the same blaze of glory as Tomasson, the underlying reasons are the same. Quite simply, he hasn't felt supported and views the Derby project as a better one than Blackburn Rovers'.

That is a damning indictment on a board that has failed to back their last three managers at crucial moments. Tony Mowbray had Rovers in second this time three years ago and they did not finish in the top-six after a dry January. 

Tomasson didn't get the striker he wanted in year one and they missed out by goal difference. In year two, he'd had enough and the failure to register Duncan McGuire was the final straw.

For Eustace, his cries for 'two or three quality players' went unanswered. Sure, Rovers signed six players but four of them didn't come until the final week of the window despite a mass injury crisis. There may well be some good additions over time but none of them ticked the boxes of top Championship pedigree and ready to go straight away.

Blackburn Rovers do not have the biggest budget and that is fine. The Championship has a food chain and an eco-system which Rovers simply don't sit at the top of. Ewood Park attendances are bottom half and the squad value sits similarly. To be sat sixth after 31 games, having lost Sam Szmodics, is a remarkable effort from staff and players.

But nobody can escape that Rovers have sold £30million of assets in the last 12 months. By my rough calculations, they have spent circa £2.5m in permanent transfers since then. That is simply inexcusable and is a huge driving factor in Eustace's decision to jump ship.

January's recruitment was short-term and Eustace, like the fans, can see the problems coming down the road. Rovers have 13 players who might not be part of their group come pre-season. That is poor planning and execution from the decision-makers.

When asked by The Lancashire Telegraph if he felt supported, his words backed the board. His facial expression and the smirk that followed painted the true picture.

Derby sold centre-back Erin Cashin for £9million to Brighton & Hove Albion in January. They too are a selling club, for the right price. But they instantly reinvested a reported £4m on defender Sondre Langas, as well as a further £1m on a centre-forward before that sale.

If Blackburn Rovers won't reinvest in their squad when they sell the likes of Adam Wharton and Szmodics, when will they? How does this club grow and create assets to plug the financial gap? They simply can't.

Since Gregg Broughton's departure, Rovers have neglected contract renewals. They're running out of players who would fetch good value and those that would are diminishing because of their dwindling expiry dates.

Rovers' board are fortunate that their last three appointment have been on the money. Tony Mowbray rebuilt the club, Tomasson took them to the brink before the ship started to sink. Eustace provided the life jacket and lifted them to dry land. But none of them are the root cause.

I sincerely hope there is not the same revisionism on Eustace's tenure as there was on Tomasson's. They did things in different ways but, when given the right tools, had Blackburn Rovers punching at the right end of the table. Both were failed by the board.

Family does play into this too. Eustace has been living in a Blackburn hotel since he took the job. His family remain at home in Birmingham, with two kids, 7 and 14, still in school.

If he can keep Derby County in the Championship this season, I'm sure he will get more assurances of investment and progress than at Ewood Park. It's a risk given they're 22nd but, let's face it, why would you back against him? 

If he achieves that feat, I don't think anyone would be shocked if the Rams are about Rovers in 12 month's time. That is a negative view but a reflection of the trust in the Blackburn board after 18 months of short-term planning, poor decision making and lack of clear communication.

They have once again played a deciding factor in driving away Blackburn Rovers' best hope of escaping this division. The book stops with them and that is where fans should vent their anger, not at Eustace.

[chaddyrovers]

18 minutes ago, BigHoz said:

So you can let him know? 👀 

Never met him 🤔

16 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

He hasn't been backed, simple as that. Just as Christ Sutton said on commentary yesterday.

He has backed with signings, but he didn't get who he wanted in January then factoring in he was promised £5m in the summer which he didn't get. He wanted to buy signings and we didn't do that. Then add key players who contracts aren't renew yet who he will want

10 minutes ago, Gav Mac said:

It’s a 2 hour drive in rush hour from Blackburn to pride park, I’m guessing he’s not living in the ground and probably nearer the Birmingham side. The guy played for Watford and had no issue. 

He is living in hotel in Blackburn whilst his family and 2 children at living in the midlands. 

2 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

What time does training start at Brockhall these days?

Doubt JE will be taking today's session, to say the least... this can't be good for the lads, especially with a 6-pointer coming up against WBA. Big loss on the cards on Wednesday.

Today will a recover session for most. Light training session tomorrow before Wednesday game. 

Eustace is meeting Rovers management team today as Andy Bayes

[rog of the rovers]

A left field name, but someone who has worked wonders at their club is Dave Challinor of Stockport County. In the League One playoff spots, lost his best player (Louie Barry) but has them playing really well.

I think I'd prefer him to a Rooney/Gerrard type.

Interesting to see Hull have had a uptick in fortunes from a League One manager, Ruben Selles appointed from Reading.

Not many inspiring names out there!

[davulsukur]

12 minutes ago, martonrover said:

I’ll just nip down to Currys  😉

If folk have his email address, drop him a line.

He’s @PashaSapss on X.

Ire in the stadium needs to be directed at him, more so than at Waggott.

Sadly he doesn't look too active, his last activity coming in October 2023. I'll direct any tirades his way anyway though. Just incase.

[CheshireRover]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Never met him 🤔

He has backed with signings, but he didn't get who he wanted in January then factoring in he was promised £5m in the summer which he didn't get. He wanted to buy signings and we didn't do that. Then add key players who contracts aren't renew yet who he will want

He is living in hotel in Blackburn whilst his family and 2 children at living in the midlands. 

Today will a recover session for most. Light training session tomorrow before Wednesday game. 

Eustace is meeting Rovers management team today as Andy Bayes

What will it take for you to see that there's no excuse, rhyme or reason for this to keep fucking happening? The family line is absolute bullshit, the article tells you this,

Does Pasha have spit in your face or something? 

[lraC]

23 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Jackson pretty scathing for an LT reporter in his latest column

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24922325.blackburn-failed-john-eustace-mistakes/

What are some or the people on, who have commented on this?

[Bronzed A Donis]

3 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Blackburn Rovers have shot themselves in the foot for a second time in 12 months, with another successful head coach on the brink of departure.

Rovers fans will soon be campaigning for February 9 to be abolished. Not even the best script writer would plot an official approach for John Eustace on the day of his one-year anniversary as head coach.

It was 12 months exactly since the previous incumbent officially parted ways that Eustace was fielding questions on his future. 

There were 15 minutes between Rovers' announcements marking the end of Jon Dahl Tomasson's tenure and appointing Eustace. That won't be the same this time around. Whilst Eustace diplomatically stated he would hold talks with the board, everyone expects this to go one way. 

It would be naïve to think otherwise, considering Derby's confidence to make a firm play for a head coach positioned 16 places above them in the Championship table. You don't do that unless there's been a nod and a wink that you've got a mighty good chance of landing your target.

Whilst Eustace will not go out in the same blaze of glory as Tomasson, the underlying reasons are the same. Quite simply, he hasn't felt supported and views the Derby project as a better one than Blackburn Rovers'.

That is a damning indictment on a board that has failed to back their last three managers at crucial moments. Tony Mowbray had Rovers in second this time three years ago and they did not finish in the top-six after a dry January. 

Tomasson didn't get the striker he wanted in year one and they missed out by goal difference. In year two, he'd had enough and the failure to register Duncan McGuire was the final straw.

For Eustace, his cries for 'two or three quality players' went unanswered. Sure, Rovers signed six players but four of them didn't come until the final week of the window despite a mass injury crisis. There may well be some good additions over time but none of them ticked the boxes of top Championship pedigree and ready to go straight away.

Blackburn Rovers do not have the biggest budget and that is fine. The Championship has a food chain and an eco-system which Rovers simply don't sit at the top of. Ewood Park attendances are bottom half and the squad value sits similarly. To be sat sixth after 31 games, having lost Sam Szmodics, is a remarkable effort from staff and players.

But nobody can escape that Rovers have sold £30million of assets in the last 12 months. By my rough calculations, they have spent circa £2.5m in permanent transfers since then. That is simply inexcusable and is a huge driving factor in Eustace's decision to jump ship.

January's recruitment was short-term and Eustace, like the fans, can see the problems coming down the road. Rovers have 13 players who might not be part of their group come pre-season. That is poor planning and execution from the decision-makers.

When asked by The Lancashire Telegraph if he felt supported, his words backed the board. His facial expression and the smirk that followed painted the true picture.

Derby sold centre-back Erin Cashin for £9million to Brighton & Hove Albion in January. They too are a selling club, for the right price. But they instantly reinvested a reported £4m on defender Sondre Langas, as well as a further £1m on a centre-forward before that sale.

If Blackburn Rovers won't reinvest in their squad when they sell the likes of Adam Wharton and Szmodics, when will they? How does this club grow and create assets to plug the financial gap? They simply can't.

Since Gregg Broughton's departure, Rovers have neglected contract renewals. They're running out of players who would fetch good value and those that would are diminishing because of their dwindling expiry dates.

Rovers' board are fortunate that their last three appointment have been on the money. Tony Mowbray rebuilt the club, Tomasson took them to the brink before the ship started to sink. Eustace provided the life jacket and lifted them to dry land. But none of them are the root cause.

I sincerely hope there is not the same revisionism on Eustace's tenure as there was on Tomasson's. They did things in different ways but, when given the right tools, had Blackburn Rovers punching at the right end of the table. Both were failed by the board.

Family does play into this too. Eustace has been living in a Blackburn hotel since he took the job. His family remain at home in Birmingham, with two kids, 7 and 14, still in school.

If he can keep Derby County in the Championship this season, I'm sure he will get more assurances of investment and progress than at Ewood Park. It's a risk given they're 22nd but, let's face it, why would you back against him? 

If he achieves that feat, I don't think anyone would be shocked if the Rams are about Rovers in 12 month's time. That is a negative view but a reflection of the trust in the Blackburn board after 18 months of short-term planning, poor decision making and lack of clear communication.

They have once again played a deciding factor in driving away Blackburn Rovers' best hope of escaping this division. The book stops with them and that is where fans should vent their anger, not at Eustace.

Jacksons best article.

[roverblue]

10 minutes ago, benhben said:

Two exciting managers in a row have now seen through the board and given up. I initially wondered why hed leave to go to Derby, but its pretty obvious after reading the LET article. They sell and Re-invest. We have 13 players out of contract or on loan. 

I said a couple of months ago I genuinely think the club will slip into oblivion/administration in the not too distant future. This might be the start of it. 

Some sort of mass protest needs to be held. The board, Waggot and Venkys get off too easily. Its not even been mentioned in the media for years other than the LET.

I have mentioned it a few times but it feels like we are already being run like in administration. Ever since the court case started and the £20m a year stopped coming.

• Sold off all the silverware and reinvested nothing.
• Stopped giving out contracts of any length or renewing ones that are expiring.
• No investment in the infrastructure.
• No clear strategy or communication in the medium or long term.
• Only plan each season for the last 2 is to avoid relegation from the championship (Waggot even stated this in an interview).

I think there are serious issues behind the scenes and they are currently being covered up by Waggot. I would wager that without the Venkys sending over the £20m again the club will be bust this time next year.

[sharpysharps86]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

He has backed with signings, but he didn't get who he wanted in January then factoring in he was promised £5m in the summer which he didn't get. He wanted to buy signings and we didn't do that.

Ergo he hasn't been backed. It's simple.

When he joined he'll have been given assurances. Those assurances haven't been kept by the club, so he hasn't been backed.

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1 minute ago, LeftWinger said:

My current feelings on a replacement:

Yes pile:

Dyche, Martin, Duff, Cooper, Edwards, Carsley, O'Neil, Ismael

Maybe:

Hughes, Critchley, Harris

No thanks:

Evatt, Bruce, Warnock, Warne, Gerrard, Rooney, Lowe

I know which pile we are most likely to appoint from. 

 

I'd have Steve Bruce just for Farley tv 

 

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Never met him 🤔

He has backed with signings, but he didn't get who he wanted in January then factoring in he was promised £5m in the summer which he didn't get. He wanted to buy signings and we didn't do that. Then add key players who contracts aren't renew yet who he will want

He is living in hotel in Blackburn whilst his family and 2 children at living in the midlands. 

Today will a recover session for most. Light training session tomorrow before Wednesday game. 

Eustace is meeting Rovers management team today as Andy Bayes

The stuff about being promised x or y is total guesswork and rumour.

But the reality is, no manager is going to be happy in the light of such significant sales, to be given such a minimal budget spread across loads of sub par sticking plasters, no contracts signed since Gestede was allowed on to the gravy train either is simply not good enough.

The January window seems to be the straw that broke the camels back. A window you claimed to be a good one was clearly anything but.