nbdrovers Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said: Someone posted earlier today (can't remember who) that Travis apparently refused a meeting with JE this morning. 👀👀 if that's true then it lends far more credence to the talk about Eustace's team liking to put his name about on the sniff for better money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jim mk2 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 (edited) 16 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: It's always about the money. He's been offered more at Derby. With that knowledge he tried to negotiate an improved contract. We said no. So he's off to earn more money. Cynical view and amid the chaos I hadn’t thought of it but you could have hit on the truth. Eustace is likely to have been offered a big pay rise and that more than his grievances will have swayed his decision. Managers are no different to players - they’re out for maximum financial gain and they want success but at the end of the day money talks Edited February 10 by jim mk2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) Fk him, just another in a long list of wankers that think the grass will be greener on the other side. We've lost far better managers and players to "ambition" they rarely meet those ambitions once leaving here though. My money says he won't last 12 months at derby. Edited February 10 by Armchair supporter supremo 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simongarnerisgod Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 15 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: It's always about the money. He's been offered more at Derby. With that knowledge he tried to negotiate an improved contract. We said no. So he's off to earn more money. He's not gone to Derby because he played 60 games for them. He's not gone because he is an hour closer to home. He's not gone because they will include him in weekly meetings with the owners. He's not gone because he's got a transfer war chest. Hes not gone for 25k fans at home. He's not gone for a better league position. He's not gone for the clubs, 3rd from bottom, lose 7 on the bounce revised vision. So don't preach loyalty, honesty, family, togetherness, team spirit and harmony for twelve twatting months when it's all about the dough. We are grown ups. We also need money. Just tell the fucking truth and go and earn your coin. He's doesn't give a fuck about Derby. He doesn't give a fuck about Rovers. He's gone to grab a bag. And now, instead of all the fucking useless names of out of work nobodies and chancers being mentioned on here why don't we head hunt fifteen league places above us? Or get Souness or Allardyce in for four months to put the fear of God into our opposition, rivals and players? Well we all know why. Because, whilst at long last we have proper professional men representing our efforts on the pitch, we have a bunch of snivelling wankers representing our efforts off the pitch. Genuine fucking self absorbed low life. Not one of them comes out of this with any credit. Spent a lot of time away from family John? I thought you were better than that. You knew where fucking Blackburn was twelve months ago. Nowt to do with an extra 20k a month is it pal? Make Travis player manager. Turn a negative into a positive. Unite the players. Unify the fans. Rock the football pyramid. Them against us. If we are going to fail let's fail with one of our own in charge. But no. We are too thick to turn a problem into an opportunity. Ryan fucking Lowe? Rob twatting Edwards? Steve fucking Cooper? Give me fucking strength. he`s gone because derby are a better long term proposition,rovers are run by a bunch of spivs,thieves and incompetents,i doubt very much he`ll be on much more money at derby,they ar`nt exactly big hitters 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: so why is he taking training if he is off or even meeting the Rovers board? Derby met his release clause so not a lot Rovers can do if there is a clause in the contract allowing to speak to others if that fee is match Not noew obviously but they could have supported him in the transfer market when he needed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Cynical view and amid the chaos I hadn’t thought of it but you could have hit on the truth. Eustace is likely to have been offered a big pay rise and that more than his grievances will have swayed his decision. Managers are no different to players - they’re out for maximum financial gain and they want success but at the end of the day money talks I was in the 95 club yesterday Kevin Gallagher said something along the lines of 'i believe JE has unfinished business at rovers but if he's been offered more money at another club he'll be off ...just like players do' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gav Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 33 minutes ago, LWX said: I feel like crying. Love Rovers so much, and when I try and explain to non-Rovers fans what's been going on they don't get it. God bless you all, god bless Uncle Jack and please Venkys F*** right off ASAP. It takes a special bunch of sociopaths to cling onto something when you're so hated by the people it involves. Apologies for this, I've been able to hold it back for years. Here it is, the straw that broke the camel's back. As football fans we are a resilient bunch. The ups and downs are part and parcel of following the club we love, but we all have a tipping point. The owners and board know this, ‘They’ll support the club whatever shit we put them through” is the assumption. This post struck a cord with me, not a regular poster, but you can feel the anger and frustration that many of us are feeling right now. Great post @LWX VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said: he`s gone because derby are a better long term proposition,rovers are run by a bunch of spivs,thieves and incompetents,i doubt very much he`ll be on much more money at derby,they ar`nt exactly big hitters I wouldn’t be surprised if he was on a good bonus for keeping them up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Fk him, just another in a long list of wankers that think the grass will be greener on the other side. We've lost far better managers and players to "ambition" they rarely meet those ambitions once leaving here though. My money says he won't last 12 months at derby. The grass is greener compared to here. Rovers are field of steaming turd compared to 99 percent of clubs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hasta Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 (edited) On 25/01/2025 at 16:12, jim mk2 said: John Eustace has decided he’s had enough at Ewood and will leave Rovers at the first opportunity. There are many reasons why he has become disenchanted with the club. The lack of signings this window is one frustration but it is a symptom of what he sees as the main problem, which is the complete lack of any communication with the owners and the resultant absence of decision making at the club. Not unreasonably he wants to know what are the owners plans for the future and their vision for the years ahead. His requests for information have met stonewalling from the Ewood hierarchy and his own attempts to contact the owners have not been successful. In short, he sees no future for the club as it stands and as an ambitious manager he does see a future for himself either. He wants to leave. He has applied for several jobs in recent weeks, including West Brom and Coventry, and he will be applying for any appealing vacancy at this level that arises. So he could be gone in weeks, or it might be months, but his days at the club are numbered. This information came from senior sources within the club. Let’s remember @jim mk2 opening post on this thread which I’ve quoted above. Read it again. Exceedingly accurate, with the communication part tying in with JE calling for speaking to the owners yesterday. At the time no Derby position vacant. No release clause matched. Nothing to do with money. He’d had enough. Edited February 10 by Hasta 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohinen1983 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Bring in a good manager on a 6 month deal and make the next few months exciting.. We've got plenty of pace, Carter and Trondstadt hopefully back soon.. I'd piss myself if went up and Derby went down.. In saying that, bring in a drab poor manager and we could could still get sucked into the quagmire- it's not inconceivable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post superniko Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 (edited) 35 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: It's always about the money. He's been offered more at Derby. With that knowledge he tried to negotiate an improved contract. We said no. So he's off to earn more money. He's not gone to Derby because he played 60 games for them. He's not gone because he is an hour closer to home. He's not gone because they will include him in weekly meetings with the owners. He's not gone because he's got a transfer war chest. Hes not gone for 25k fans at home. He's not gone for a better league position. He's not gone for the clubs, 3rd from bottom, lose 7 on the bounce revised vision. So don't preach loyalty, honesty, family, togetherness, team spirit and harmony for twelve twatting months when it's all about the dough. We are grown ups. We also need money. Just tell the fucking truth and go and earn your coin. He's doesn't give a fuck about Derby. He doesn't give a fuck about Rovers. He's gone to grab a bag. And now, instead of all the fucking useless names of out of work nobodies and chancers being mentioned on here why don't we head hunt fifteen league places above us? Or get Souness or Allardyce in for four months to put the fear of God into our opposition, rivals and players? Well we all know why. Because, whilst at long last we have proper professional men representing our efforts on the pitch, we have a bunch of snivelling wankers representing our efforts off the pitch. Genuine fucking self absorbed low life. Not one of them comes out of this with any credit. Spent a lot of time away from family John? I thought you were better than that. You knew where fucking Blackburn was twelve months ago. Nowt to do with an extra 20k a month is it pal? Make Travis player manager. Turn a negative into a positive. Unite the players. Unify the fans. Rock the football pyramid. Them against us. If we are going to fail let's fail with one of our own in charge. But no. We are too thick to turn a problem into an opportunity. Ryan fucking Lowe? Rob twatting Edwards? Steve fucking Cooper? Give me fucking strength. “Steve fucking Cooper” - bloke who won a U17 World Cup and Euros runner up and took Forest to the prem after 20 odd years lingering in the lower leagues and taking over when they were in the relegation places? “Rob twatting Edwards” - bloke who won League 2 with Forest Green and then took Luton to the prem for the first time since what 1992(?) Nah fuck that lads, let’s make Lewis Travis player manager. What? Edited February 10 by superniko 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 20 minutes ago, roverandout said: Travis can jog on then if he holds anything against Eustace. Another on the venkys payroll 22 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said: Someone posted earlier today (can't remember who) that Travis apparently refused a meeting with JE this morning. I read that Travis was fuming, no context as to at who, never saw he refused a meeting with JE 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JHRover Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 It is interesting to observe Nixon now a fully signed up member of the Waggott propaganda machine. Last week he was lavishing praise on the Rovers 'supremo' for pulling off a masterstroke in waiting until 11pm on deadline day to get Dennis at 'only' £20k a week contribution from Rovers, suggesting this was some brilliant piece of negotiating skill and ignoring the 5 fixtures in January that we lost whilst this game was being played. Now in his latest piece he's carefully constructing a pro-Waggott and anti-Eustace narrative: Claiming that Eustace has been keen on other jobs as has been a 'habit' during his career so far - implying that he was always going to look elsewhere regardless of Rovers' approach to things Blackburn are 'strange' behind the scenes - that's one word for it - I'm sure there are plenty far more accurate Eustace likes 'older players' and showed that by 'hardly using some talented ones on loan when he arrived' - I'm not sure what he is getting at here, presumably a reluctance to rely on kids and loanees when fighting relegation last season - but of course this is to be taken as a negative 'In the end he got many he wanted.....but still he complained' - Eustace being unreasonable then 'The January window brought SIX signings and many came in the right age group' - again the number and age of the signings largely irrelevant compared to the quality, timing and short term nature of them all yet the 'SIX' used just like Waggott has in the club statement to convince people Eustace has been well backed. 'So when Derby arrived one insider said 'There is a lot of relief around here' - implying that there is an unhappy camp and his departure will be welcomed at Brockhall. 'Steve Waggott picked Eustace in a hurry last time and was one of his big allies in the end' - so a double dose of Waggott gets the credit for appointing Eustace to begin with and quick to ensure no suggestion he was in any way behind his departure It's so blatant all I ask is what's in it for Nixon in return for his construction and distribution of such propaganda. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobydo Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, Hasta said: Let’s remember @jim mk2 opening post on this thread which I’ve quoted above. Read it again. Exceedingly accurate, with the communication part tying in with JE calling for speaking to the owners yesterday. At the time no Derby position vacant. No release clause matched. Nothing to do with money. He’d had enough. Will definitely have something to do with Money, or he’d stick it out til the summer or a better offer. He’s everything to lose in this move and on the face of it not much to gain. So what’s the kicker? Money talks. Not for one second saying that all the other stuff is bullshit or the club and owners aren’t a shit show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWX Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, Gav said: As football fans we are a resilient bunch. The ups and downs are part and parcel of following the club we love, but we all have a tipping point. The owners and board know this, ‘They’ll support the club whatever shit we put them through” is the assumption. This post struck a cord with me, not a regular poster, but you can feel the anger and frustration that many of us are feeling right now. Great post @LWX VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS Cheers mate, I appreciate it! 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_B Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Fk him, just another in a long list of wankers that think the grass will be greener on the other side. We've lost far better managers and players to "ambition" they rarely meet those ambitions once leaving here though. My money says he won't last 12 months at derby. I wouldn't say fk him, he's got Rovers higher than anyone expected this season so he leaves with my thanks. But I'm waaaaay past the point where I pine for anyone who leaves or is sacked. As far as I'm concerned, it's all about Rovers, and anyone who wants to leave isn't worth a second thought. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 15 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Fk him, just another in a long list of wankers that think the grass will be greener on the other side. We've lost far better managers and players to "ambition" they rarely meet those ambitions once leaving here though. My money says he won't last 12 months at derby. It's started 👀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, levi said: I was in the 95 club yesterday Kevin Gallagher said something along the lines of 'i believe JE has unfinished business at rovers but if he's been offered more money at another club he'll be off ...just like players do' Thanks for confirming. Kevin stating stating the obvious that’s flown over the head of the downvoter. Folk questioned why Bryan Kidd left as United. No 2 to become Rovers manger and Kidd admitted it was for the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy612 Posted February 10 Popular Post Share Posted February 10 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JHRover said: It is interesting to observe Nixon now a fully signed up member of the Waggott propaganda machine. Last week he was lavishing praise on the Rovers 'supremo' for pulling off a masterstroke in waiting until 11pm on deadline day to get Dennis at 'only' £20k a week contribution from Rovers, suggesting this was some brilliant piece of negotiating skill and ignoring the 5 fixtures in January that we lost whilst this game was being played. Now in his latest piece he's carefully constructing a pro-Waggott and anti-Eustace narrative: Claiming that Eustace has been keen on other jobs as has been a 'habit' during his career so far - implying that he was always going to look elsewhere regardless of Rovers' approach to things Blackburn are 'strange' behind the scenes - that's one word for it - I'm sure there are plenty far more accurate Eustace likes 'older players' and showed that by 'hardly using some talented ones on loan when he arrived' - I'm not sure what he is getting at here, presumably a reluctance to rely on kids and loanees when fighting relegation last season - but of course this is to be taken as a negative 'In the end he got many he wanted.....but still he complained' - Eustace being unreasonable then 'The January window brought SIX signings and many came in the right age group' - again the number and age of the signings largely irrelevant compared to the quality, timing and short term nature of them all yet the 'SIX' used just like Waggott has in the club statement to convince people Eustace has been well backed. 'So when Derby arrived one insider said 'There is a lot of relief around here' - implying that there is an unhappy camp and his departure will be welcomed at Brockhall. 'Steve Waggott picked Eustace in a hurry last time and was one of his big allies in the end' - so a double dose of Waggott gets the credit for appointing Eustace to begin with and quick to ensure no suggestion he was in any way behind his departure It's so blatant all I ask is what's in it for Nixon in return for his construction and distribution of such propaganda. I said earlier, I bet he breaks the new managerial appointment before anyone else. And by the way, in stark contrast Elliott Jackson (LET) has really gone for the jugular of the owners and in particular the board, not just in his LET article but also on his podcast with Ryan Hildred. It feels like the LET have just thought 'bollocks to Rovers, they never communicate with us anyway'. If you're reading, Elliott, congratulations and do keep up the good work! Edited February 10 by Jimmy612 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, NeilInBristol said: What's Travis said? 2 hours ago, waynerovers said: What has Travis said? Allegedly didn't want to meet with Eustace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, Hasta said: Let’s remember @jim mk2 opening post on this thread which I’ve quoted above. Read it again. Exceedingly accurate, with the communication part tying in with JE calling for speaking to the owners yesterday. At the time no Derby position vacant. No release clause matched. Nothing to do with money. He’d had enough. He never applied for West Brom or Coventry jobs, so no it wasn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, JHRover said: It is interesting to observe Nixon now a fully signed up member of the Waggott propaganda machine. Last week he was lavishing praise on the Rovers 'supremo' for pulling off a masterstroke in waiting until 11pm on deadline day to get Dennis at 'only' £20k a week contribution from Rovers, suggesting this was some brilliant piece of negotiating skill and ignoring the 5 fixtures in January that we lost whilst this game was being played. Now in his latest piece he's carefully constructing a pro-Waggott and anti-Eustace narrative: Claiming that Eustace has been keen on other jobs as has been a 'habit' during his career so far - implying that he was always going to look elsewhere regardless of Rovers' approach to things Blackburn are 'strange' behind the scenes - that's one word for it - I'm sure there are plenty far more accurate Eustace likes 'older players' and showed that by 'hardly using some talented ones on loan when he arrived' - I'm not sure what he is getting at here, presumably a reluctance to rely on kids and loanees when fighting relegation last season - but of course this is to be taken as a negative 'In the end he got many he wanted.....but still he complained' - Eustace being unreasonable then 'The January window brought SIX signings and many came in the right age group' - again the number and age of the signings largely irrelevant compared to the quality, timing and short term nature of them all yet the 'SIX' used just like Waggott has in the club statement to convince people Eustace has been well backed. 'So when Derby arrived one insider said 'There is a lot of relief around here' - implying that there is an unhappy camp and his departure will be welcomed at Brockhall. 'Steve Waggott picked Eustace in a hurry last time and was one of his big allies in the end' - so a double dose of Waggott gets the credit for appointing Eustace to begin with and quick to ensure no suggestion he was in any way behind his departure It's so blatant all I ask is what's in it for Nixon in return for his construction and distribution of such propaganda. An exclusive on our new manager ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Torgeir said: Allegedly didn't want to meet with Eustace. No. He didn't want to meet with useless (waggot) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Torgeir said: Allegedly didn't want to meet with Eustace. Where did this come from? Was this before the derby news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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