Eustace…he gone…*official*

[superniko]

4 minutes ago, RTM08 said:

When do Rovers ever beat a team at the bottom with such a wretched record though?

It's got a Plymouth win all over it, even if we had JE.

Pompey 3-0 the other week.

Yeah we're shite away from home against rubbish promoted teams (don't think we've beaten one for 3 or 4 years away). But at home, against bottom of the league, who haven't won an away game all season and have conceeded 63 (!!!!) goals in 30 games, whose goal difference is 15 goals worse than the next team - if we're calling that 'tough' then we might as well give up.

[DE.]

10 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Let’s see how many season tickets are sold in the summer if we drift downwards…that’s the one objective measure of dissatisfaction. 

I feel like we must already be pretty close to ST holders being the hardcore fans who will go no matter what. You might get a couple of hundred shed here or there, but you'd think after 15 years of Venky's the steep drop off has already happened. 

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing Chaddy will say he still fully plans on having a season ticket next season. Until those kinds of supporters begin wavering I'm not sure there'll be a significant difference in ST sales. Again, I could be completely wrong, I don't have historical figures to hand to back up my stance!

[AVE1875]

48 minutes ago, Trinidad Rover said:

This is very good. About as good, and utterly bonkers, summary as you could find. (Except the bigger club line…)

People finally waking up the nightmare? Sadly won’t change much and it will blow over, but it’s nice to finally hear some people wake up and smell the chicken.

Why is Eustace leaving Blackburn for Derby…?

I was mildly surprised to see a Dingle jumping to our defense on his statement of Derby being a bigger club than us ... 

[sabino]

Why do so many keep saying JE "kept us up last year" as if it's some major achievement?

When he took over after the Stoke game we were 7 points above the relegation spots with a game in hand and only 11 points off playoffs with a game in hand to 6th and 7th.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

They will remit sufficient funding from India to avoid us going into admin because of the reputational risk…but no more.

So what's their end game? Rovers bumping around the bottom of L2?

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, AVE1875 said:

Posts like this is what we have to contend with... Moronic.

We were a mid-table Premier League club with minimal external funding from the Walker Trust when these clowns took over.

Braindead doesn't even begin to cover it.

[47er]

34 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

Bloody good article that. Writer has more of a clue than many of our supporters.

[TheRevAshton]

7 minutes ago, sabino said:

Why do so many keep saying JE "kept us up last year" as if it's some major achievement?

When he took over after the Stoke game we were 7 points above the relegation spots with a game in hand and only 11 points off playoffs with a game in hand to 6th and 7th.

He stopped the rot at the back tbf, we were conceding goals at a very alarming rate before he came in.

He contributed to us staying up, at the very least... but everyone knows that the lions share of the credit goes to Samuel Joseph Szmodics. Without his individual quality we'd without question be a League One club right now.

[JHRover]

If reputational risk was at the forefront of their minds, combined with a desire to cut funding, they would hand the club over or sell it to someone else and get out now whilst we are still a Championship club, interest is higher and the damage of another relegation inevitably comes.

If they were interested in their reputation keeping the club indefinitely in a zombie like state with unhappy fans isn't going to do their reputation any good.

[47er]

12 minutes ago, sabino said:

Why do so many keep saying JE "kept us up last year" as if it's some major achievement?

When he took over after the Stoke game we were 7 points above the relegation spots with a game in hand and only 11 points off playoffs with a game in hand to 6th and 7th.

But we were living off an excellent set of results early in the season. At the time Eustace took over were were on a very bad run. 

[rob_of_the_rovers]

4 minutes ago, 47er said:

But we were living off an excellent set of results early in the season. At the time Eustace took over were were on a very bad run. 

And had lost Travis and Wharton in january

[AvRover]

Finally been motivated to sign up for BRFCs after the news of Eustace's departure. The anger on here is palpable - not seen the fans like this for a while. Maybe this is the catalyst that starts the fall of the regime?

Lifelong Rovers fan, used to have a season ticket but gave it up due to Venkys - have attended sporadically since then. A few games I've enjoyed lately but some games it's flat atmosphere, hollow shell of what was and I realise why I boycotted and didn't go on every week like I used to.

Unless the regime pulls something out the hat I will NOT be attending for the rest of the season. Play offs are done now - let's not delude ourselves. The players deserve support as they're honest lads doing a sterling job, but the Play offs have probably been shot since the start of January - to argue anything else is cope. 

The blame here is 80% regime, 20% Eustace. Although given mitigating factors of naivety and putting up with the behind the scenes nonsense can you blame him? The club has a track record of scaring managers away - it's a pattern! Sure, apportion some of the blame to him to be balanced and fair, but the regime forced him to do this, the regime creates these circumstances time after time. 

I don't think Cooper, Edwards, Dyche or O'Neil would want the job. It's whoever we can cobble together. 

The HappyClappers need to wake up and the fanbase needs to unify around getting rid of Venkys. Nothing more nothing less. The club's future will not be in the hands of the fans. A serious social media campaign to raise awareness of 15 years of shocking mismanagement needs to be launched - it's free and something *we* can do. Rovers fans are relatively tame compared to the likes of Newcastle or Leeds. We need to use our voice on social media to get the word out there the shocking things that have gone on over the last 15 years. The silence has made the club an easy target. 

I do care about this club and want to see it succeed - it's a pipe dream and unlikely ever come about beyond a Johnstone's Paint Trophy. However, the fans deserve this and football fans deserve better!

[lraC]

6 minutes ago, AvRover said:

Finally been motivated to sign up for BRFCs after the news of Eustace's departure. The anger on here is palpable - not seen the fans like this for a while. Maybe this is the catalyst that starts the fall of the regime?

Lifelong Rovers fan, used to have a season ticket but gave it up due to Venkys - have attended sporadically since then. A few games I've enjoyed lately but some games it's flat atmosphere, hollow shell of what was and I realise why I boycotted and didn't go on every week like I used to.

Unless the regime pulls something out the hat I will NOT be attending for the rest of the season. Play offs are done now - let's not delude ourselves. The players deserve support as they're honest lads doing a sterling job, but the Play offs have probably been shot since the start of January - to argue anything else is cope. 

The blame here is 80% regime, 20% Eustace. Although given mitigating factors of naivety and putting up with the behind the scenes nonsense can you blame him? The club has a track record of scaring managers away - it's a pattern! Sure, apportion some of the blame to him to be balanced and fair, but the regime forced him to do this, the regime creates these circumstances time after time. 

I don't think Cooper, Edwards, Dyche or O'Neil would want the job. It's whoever we can cobble together. 

The HappyClappers need to wake up and the fanbase needs to unify around getting rid of Venkys. Nothing more nothing less. The club's future will not be in the hands of the fans. A serious social media campaign to raise awareness of 15 years of shocking mismanagement needs to be launched - it's free and something *we* can do. Rovers fans are relatively tame compared to the likes of Newcastle or Leeds. We need to use our voice on social media to get the word out there the shocking things that have gone on over the last 15 years. The silence has made the club an easy target. 

I do care about this club and want to see it succeed - it's a pipe dream and unlikely ever come about beyond a Johnstone's Paint Trophy. However, the fans deserve this and football fans deserve better!

I think your views are pretty much aligned with the majority on here.

Welcome to the site, you have joined a good one.

[Theaxe15]

Nixon posted an article about list of managers, refuse to pay the man any money, anyone got it?

[Groundhog]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Being the manager of a top football club isn’t quite like me working in the toolroom at a local engineering company.

I totally agree with this, there's a certain cognitive dissonance with how the public view football: one instance we value clubs as important assets to the community that are treated very differently to "normal" businesses, yet we also except that their employees have "no loyalty" (to quote a certain Mr Shearer) and take it as par for the course that they can chop and change, easily ditching clubs mid-season, or run contracts down etc etc. I understand that the volatile nature of football means you've just got to go for it and look after yourself, but it's strange how both outlooks can co-exist. 

I feel a total mug for staying behind after the whistle of most home games to look Eustace in the eye and give him, and the players, the applause they deserve, quietly scathing at the people leaving early - maybe they have it right, what's the point of getting attached to anyone at your club when it can end like this? I feel stupid for sticking up for him during the early part of his tenure, for his supposed deadpan interviews, putting it down to a nervousness in front of camera and lack of media training. I think that I do still like the guy and his approach, but once again we've had to see someone down tools - the fact that we now know he applied for the Preston job of all things - coupled with the recent performances, makes you wonder how much unrest there was behind the scenes, and for how long, yet again derailing a promising season. Yes, you can argue that our slow transfer business also had the same effect, but I'm just talking about the manager and the dressing room here. 

Fair play to the guy, he has some neck to do this and take the risk of keeping Derby up, there's a slim, but very real chance that he takes them down and we still get the playoffs - I know it's unlikely but the fact he's willing to take the risk says everything about him and the state of Rovers. If, and it's a big if, it doesn't come off, and he leaves Derby in League 1 at Christmas, his reputation would be on the floor, he doesn't have a Szmodics. As it stands Derby are still second favourites to get relegated, but maybe the 30k home gate, plus the right owner and the supposed new investment are good enough to endure a morale boosting League 1 promotion campaign, thus forever endearing him to a generation of Ram's fans.

I find the family comments after the Wolves game deeply unprofessional and at odds with his usual approach of not showing any emotion or chinks in the armour - normally professionals keep matters like that private, release a deadpan statement and play all enquiries with a straight bat, much to the annoyance of fans and journalists alike - so for the family angle to come up immediately is either an attempt to garner some sympathy or a slip of the tongue and a touch of that nervousness in front of camera we've seen previously.

Surely in the back of any Derby supporter's mind is the worry that Eustace could do this again should things go awry in the future - something must have seriously gone wrong behind the scenes for him to jump ship mid-season, after a transfer window, potentially risking a career high. How must the players feel knowing a manager has not deemed the 2nd half of a season worthy of his time? The fact that he's happy to take the ire of Rovers fans, certain players and pundits too - fair play - sign the NDA and walk away. Therefore it's surely is all about money, a healthy survival bonus - as many have said he knew were Blackburn was when took the job, if Barca came calling he'd be off....

I'm looking for reasons to feel better about him leaving here: other than Kidderminster, he's not had a complete season at a higher tier club, at Brum through no fault of his own, he was treated appallingly, but do we really know how good he is as a manager? If we're being completely honest, other than the fact that the players seem to like him and we can do the "low block" thing well, take away our 6 game winning streak this season what are we left with? If he had Dembele and McBurney and the players he supposedly wanted, are we suddenly hitting the magic 1.8 points per game that sees us shoot up the league? Or is that a moot point - we're never getting that quality anyway. I remember saying to people that surely the biggest test for Eustace is how he responds to a bad run or discontent in a dressing room, and now we'll never know...

Most of the time I'm 100% pissed off with the club, but in this instance, today, my ire is divided equally, 33.3% pissed off with them and their comical "statement", 33.33% pissed off with Eustace and the culture of agents, and then the remaining 33.33% I'm seriously pissed off with Derby. I really really hope they go down. Half my family are Derby supporters and this caused a few interesting conversations. 

The Venky's should always have pressure put on them, we're ticking away on life support - the fact we can't repair crumbling steps and jet-wash the moss off the Blackburn End says everything, responsible owners would be present and look after the infrastructure at the very least - but I'm fed up with the nature of modern football and the types of player and manager our situation attracts, using us as a stepping stone in their career that they can easily leave and save face. At it's root I do get it, but it's still frustrating to be a part of. If only JE could say something on his way out, sod the NDA and give us a nugget of truth John please.

 

Edited yesterday at 11:21 by Groundhog

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

Nixon posted an article about list of managers, refuse to pay the man any money, anyone got it?

I expect it will be a combination of the unwanted and the unattainable. 

[martonrover]

5 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

Nixon posted an article about list of managers, refuse to pay the man any money, anyone got it?

See manager wish list thread 😉

[Theaxe15]

1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said:

I expect it will be a combination of the unwanted and the unattainable. 

Sounds about right 

[TheRevAshton]

5 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

Nixon posted an article about list of managers, refuse to pay the man any money, anyone got it?

Disclaimer: I do not pay for his Patreon.

Blackburn Rovers have put Gary O'Neil and a handful of foreign coaches on their list for their promotion bid - and beyond.

Rovers have been planning for unhappy John Eustace moving on for some time and are putting names together, with many based in Europe.

The Championship club have drawn up a list of an initial potential candidates and all of them are outside the UK bar O'Neil.

Former Southampton and Wolves boss O'Neil has impressed if he fancies a drop to the
Championship.

Spaniard Aitor Karanka has his admirers and has previous experience at the level if he can be tempted back to England.

Former Sheffield Wednesday boss Carlos Carlavhal also has his admirers although he is in a job at Braga which makes him a long shot.

Swiss coach Raphael Wicky is another possible as is know to backroom man Adam Owen. He recently came close to West Brom.

One other foreign coach is in the frame but may be part of a team rather than the first choice selection.

George Boateng has strong links with Rovers and worked as a youth coach with them for a spell.

He is available after leaving Coventry City and could be part of a new management team.

Rovers could yet expand that list but they are under pressure to appoint soon to stay in the playoff race.

It is a massive test for their 'management team' who have come together this season

[Theaxe15]

1 minute ago, martonrover said:

See manager wish list thread 😉

Thanks. Wish I hadn’t looked

[Penwortham Blue]

26 minutes ago, 47er said:

But we were living off an excellent set of results early in the season. At the time Eustace took over were were on a very bad run. 

Exactly the same type of run we are currently on !

[AVE1875]

17 minutes ago, AvRover said:

Finally been motivated to sign up for BRFCs after the news of Eustace's departure. The anger on here is palpable - not seen the fans like this for a while. Maybe this is the catalyst that starts the fall of the regime?

Lifelong Rovers fan, used to have a season ticket but gave it up due to Venkys - have attended sporadically since then. A few games I've enjoyed lately but some games it's flat atmosphere, hollow shell of what was and I realise why I boycotted and didn't go on every week like I used to.

Unless the regime pulls something out the hat I will NOT be attending for the rest of the season. Play offs are done now - let's not delude ourselves. The players deserve support as they're honest lads doing a sterling job, but the Play offs have probably been shot since the start of January - to argue anything else is cope. 

The blame here is 80% regime, 20% Eustace. Although given mitigating factors of naivety and putting up with the behind the scenes nonsense can you blame him? The club has a track record of scaring managers away - it's a pattern! Sure, apportion some of the blame to him to be balanced and fair, but the regime forced him to do this, the regime creates these circumstances time after time. 

I don't think Cooper, Edwards, Dyche or O'Neil would want the job. It's whoever we can cobble together. 

The HappyClappers need to wake up and the fanbase needs to unify around getting rid of Venkys. Nothing more nothing less. The club's future will not be in the hands of the fans. A serious social media campaign to raise awareness of 15 years of shocking mismanagement needs to be launched - it's free and something *we* can do. Rovers fans are relatively tame compared to the likes of Newcastle or Leeds. We need to use our voice on social media to get the word out there the shocking things that have gone on over the last 15 years. The silence has made the club an easy target. 

I do care about this club and want to see it succeed - it's a pipe dream and unlikely ever come about beyond a Johnstone's Paint Trophy. However, the fans deserve this and football fans deserve better!

We fortunately don't see many of the Facebook / X nonsensical posters within the BRFCS forum, not saying we don't completely but it isn't as prominent on here than it is on generic Social Media and most subscribers/members mostly agree which is warming to witness.

Fully in agreement with your comments, I'd probably push the % to 99% regime and 1% JE though given the regime has been with us for 14 years at ownership level ... It's been mentioned a few times over the past days, weeks, months, years how deluded our fan base is, I'm thoroughly convinced that SOME are indeed bots or Dingles in disguise (One was literally found on one of the FB groups yesterday and publicly called out), THEN you have those who truly believe the shite they are spouting living in their own delusional bubble. 

Welcome to the site! 

[AVE1875]

10 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Disclaimer: I do not pay for his Patreon.

Blackburn Rovers have put Gary O'Neil and a handful of foreign coaches on their list for their promotion bid - and beyond.

Rovers have been planning for unhappy John Eustace moving on for some time and are putting names together, with many based in Europe.

The Championship club have drawn up a list of an initial potential candidates and all of them are outside the UK bar O'Neil.

Former Southampton and Wolves boss O'Neil has impressed if he fancies a drop to the
Championship.

Spaniard Aitor Karanka has his admirers and has previous experience at the level if he can be tempted back to England.

Former Sheffield Wednesday boss Carlos Carlavhal also has his admirers although he is in a job at Braga which makes him a long shot.

Swiss coach Raphael Wicky is another possible as is know to backroom man Adam Owen. He recently came close to West Brom.

One other foreign coach is in the frame but may be part of a team rather than the first choice selection.

George Boateng has strong links with Rovers and worked as a youth coach with them for a spell.

He is available after leaving Coventry City and could be part of a new management team.

Rovers could yet expand that list but they are under pressure to appoint soon to stay in the playoff race.

It is a massive test for their 'management team' who have come together this season

Am I one of the only ones that is massively unimpressed with links to Gary O'Neil? A lot of fans seem quite positive towards him. One of my close mates is a big Wolves fan and he openly spoke about how he is one of the worst managers they have ever had (during his lifetime anyway).

[roverandout]

George boateng fucking guaranteed 

[StHelensRover]

57 minutes ago, sabino said:

Why do so many keep saying JE "kept us up last year" as if it's some major achievement?

When he took over after the Stoke game we were 7 points above the relegation spots with a game in hand and only 11 points off playoffs with a game in hand to 6th and 7th.

Because at the time he took the job we were hurtling in one specific direction. When he took over, only Rotherham had conceded more goals than we had and they were relegated by about March, I think we were the only team last season who didn't beat them. 

There was some poor performances incl Bristol away and Sheff Weds at home, but on the whole him coming in made a big difference, it passed the eye test for me as I was at almost all those matches (Bristol City excepted actually)