Eustace…he gone…*official*

[onlyonejackwalker]

5 minutes ago, AAK said:

Has anyone mentioned this, John said after the wolves defeat he had just heard of the wolves interest that daY, however in his derby reveal he said their chairman made contact on the Friday before the wolves game?

 

Exactly. Bullshitting twat.

Eustace has hoodwinked many on here and is currently beyond reproach.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I wonder if Siggy will end up at Derby?

Much like the talk of Dolan joining him in the summer - no chance, Eustace isn't a mug. He'll want better.

Plus we'd have to come to a mutual contract termination with Sigurdsson and he doesn't seem the type to leave money on the table...

[martonrover]

Although this is quite amusing, the cold, hard fact is that a Derby win would’ve been a better result for us.

QPR are a threat.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Exactly. Bullshitting twat.

Eustace has hoodwinked many on here and is currently beyond reproach.

You'd think he'd fit in well with our owners, COO and CEO then - cut from the same cloth. 

[Hasta]

42 minutes ago, M_B said:

Nixon said so earlier on Lancs. Said 3 are favourites( think he said they'd been interviewed) , 2 foreigners and the other he couldn't say cos he's currently employed.

Couldn't say? Did he name the two unemployed then?

[onlyonejackwalker]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

You'd think he'd fit in well with our owners, COO and CEO then - cut from the same cloth. 

Possibly exiled. But they dont try and drum loyalty, family and togetherness down our throats constantly.

[Ossydave]

5 minutes ago, DE. said:

I saw a thread on their forum where they were extremely excited at the thought of landing Siggy and Dolan.

After watching this and their last game, I'm not at all surprised. Both are significant upgrades on what they have currently, and I'm not a huge fan of either player!

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Plus we'd have to come to a mutual contract termination with Sigurdsson and he doesn't seem the type to leave money on the table...

I thought that as well but Im told that you have to be a free agent before the window closes. So he can only now go somewhete this season where the window is still open.

Rovers fucked up massively there imo.

[Gav]

7 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Exactly. Bullshitting twat.

Eustace has hoodwinked many on here and is currently beyond reproach.

Evening sir

[onlyonejackwalker]

2 minutes ago, Gav said:

Evening sir

Evening Gav. Glad your back posting more often.

Can you remember a Rovers manager behaving so disgracefully and getting let off so lightly? 

[Upside Down]

3 hours ago, SuperBrfc said:

I'd argue that he started looking at other jobs due to what went on last summer, Jim. I think that was the catalyst, rather than him being a snake who always wanted out, that some quarters are portraying him as. Based on info/rumours that have emerged, it is likely that this is how it went:

1) He allegedly had an agreement with the car salesman that he would have the McGuire money to spend last summer, providing he kept us up.

2) He keeps his side of the bargain. The clown pairing then attempt to go back on that understanding. He offers to resign, twice. That scenario, I think, showed him what he was up against. That would be a red flag for most competent managers.

A few signings arrive, including Cantwell, temporarily calming matters...but he probably sees Ohashi and Gueye come in and thinks "who?". I don't think he was pleased with how last summer went and saw no plan or vision, but with a compromise reached on signings he resolves to carry on despite having reservations.

3) Seeing how they operate and not knowing what is happening with contracts or the long term plan, he feels the need to get away so starts looking out for other jobs. Hence mentions of Preston, Hull etc in August and beyond.

4) The constant focus on "togetherness" and "unity" from Eustace are not the acts of a snake or a hypocrite IMO, but rather show him to be the good man that he is.

I think this was him trying to bring all of us together on the pitch. Fans, players and staff, so that the club could still pick up results and achieve something. Despite him wanting out in the background, he didn't want the team or the fans to suffer for what was going on upstairs.

Think it became clear to him last summer that those above him are clowns who aren't fussed, just like we realised long ago, but we all still want Rovers to win and do well despite them.

He constantly referenced "the players, me, the staff, the fans, we all want quality players to come in, we all want the club to be successful" etc. It became an us against them scenario. Just like it was under JDT.

This will never change under this hierarchy. They don't want what we, the fans, and our managers want.

5) In the weeks leading up to January Eustace stated many times, the need for 2 or 3 quality signings. Again, it was stressed that he, the players, the staff and the fans all want these signings made. He made it obvious that if they didn't come in it wouldn't be due to him or his staff.

The Jan window ends as it does and he is seemingly not happy. He repeatedly refers to "club signings" and "their signings". Maybe because he didn't get who he wanted, maybe because they are mostly short term moves or that he just doesn't rate them. He has likely viewed the Jan window to be a continuation of last summer. No plan, no ambition, no vision.

6) The Sigurdsson situation and the way he was omitted, being the cherry on the top of an abysmal cake. If Siggy's account is to be believed, his omission makes Eustace look like a prick for giving him hope, when it wasn't his fault that he was unregistered. I think this was the "that's it, I'm done" moment.

7) Eustace tells the public he's going to hold talks with Pasha and Waggott following Derby's official approach and that he is seeking assurances regarding his own future, investment from the owners and the club's long term plan.

If he leaves, it's because they wouldn't give him those assurances. It's a clear move by him to show the fans who and what the issue is at this club. They failed to deliver and he left.

😎😎  (Ignore emojis, this is point 😎 8. Yesterday in his Derby presser, he talks about Derby having "a long term plan, a vision, and ambition". Whilst he's playing to the Derby gallery a bit, those words are a pop at our joke of a hierarchy! Not the words of a "greedy bastard" or whatever.

He also talked about Derby having people on the Board that care about the club and the fans. Again, another pop at the hierarchy here and a pointed message for us Rovers fans to ponder. Can any of us argue that he is wrong in what he is trying to say?

Two consecutive managers have told us all we need to know, yet some are still taken in by the words of an extensively pro club hack (the same hack who showed much love for Kean and Anderson, odd, that) and the hot air assumption of Jordan on talksport.

The latter ridiculously suggested Eustace must have got too big for his boots and is therefore entitled, ungrateful and disloyal for walking away. Based on what? No inside info, no knowledge of Rovers under Venky's, just assumption. Absolute cobblers from people who care not about this club.

I am far from a Eustace fan boy. If people recall, I was probably the first to say 'Eustace out' on here after hearing his "no excuses" comment. That was wrong though, and was caused by anger at JDT's treatment and exit and seeing him as Waggott's stooge. He certainly isn't that.

I have no issue with Eustace over any of this. He was driven to look for a way out. He was on our side. He wanted Rovers to kick on. He saw that those upstairs didn't give a shit. Neither he nor JDT are our enemy.

Venky's out. Pasha out. Waggott out.

There's a long history of this club making deals and then reneging on them.

Why anyone with half a brain can't see that's why Eustace has left is beyond me.

 

[M_B]

5 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Couldn't say? Did he name the two unemployed then?

Don't think he said they were unemployed, just that they were foreign. From that i assumed working abroad, although on reflection, Ive no reason to.

The other he said was in a job, so he couldn't say who it was. I assumed he meant over here.

Thinking back, it was as vague as Clinton Baptiste.

[roversfan99]

7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I thought that as well but Im told that you have to be a free agent before the window closes. So he can only now go somewhete this season where the window is still open.

Rovers fucked up massively there imo.

Im sure you said the opppsite before.

[DE.]

9 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

After watching this and their last game, I'm not at all surprised. Both are significant upgrades on what they have currently, and I'm not a huge fan of either player!

Indeed so, I thought it was very telling as to what Eustace is walking into.

[Exiled_Rover]

10 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Possibly exiled. But they dont try and drum loyalty, family and togetherness down our throats constantly.

No, they just drum the "there is no reason why the owners can't invest money" line as we watch the squad, the stadium and apparently the training ground fall apart. 

[BankEnd Rover]

It's all a laugh but at the end of the day, he'd rather manage Derby in league 1 than be involved with Venkys.

He will have the last laugh.

[BigHoz]

1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

It's all a laugh but at the end of the day, he'd rather manage Derby in league 1 than be involved with Venkys.

He will have the last laugh.

I dno, took them a good few years to get out of L1 last time 🤣

[Upside Down]

3 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

It's all a laugh but at the end of the day, he'd rather manage Derby in league 1 than be involved with Venkys.

He will have the last laugh.

This right here is the whole point of what's happening.

The manager would rather leave Rovers, who are in the top six to manage Derby, who could very well be in League One next year.

Just let that sink in.

Edited 16 hours ago by Upside Down

[Gav]

9 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Evening Gav. Glad your back posting more often.

Can you remember a Rovers manager behaving so disgracefully and getting let off so lightly? 

King rat for one, we should have lynched the ****, I tried to be honest 🤣

Think bigger picture and I know can, that’s why I suggest you’re fishing 😉

Chorleys favourite son tomorrow 🥊

Edited 16 hours ago by Gav

[BankEnd Rover]

Just now, BigHoz said:

I dno, took them a good few years to get out of L1 last time 🤣

Whilst Venkys are in charge it's irrelevant! My timeline is just full of people laughing at Eustace fair enough, but......

"people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

[M_B]

20 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Much like the talk of Dolan joining him in the summer - no chance, Eustace isn't a mug. He'll want better.

Plus we'd have to come to a mutual contract termination with Sigurdsson and he doesn't seem the type to leave money on the table...

He started him virtually every game, of course he'd want him.

Goes without saying.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im sure you said the opppsite before.

I did. But someone showed me the regulations and pointed the opposite out.

I "think" the position is that he can only move to a Country where the window is still open. To  be treated as a free agent you've got to be a free agent before the window closes.

And that arguably therefore we should have terminated Sigurdsson's contract before the window closed.

Still wouldnt like to put the mortgage on it, if Im wrong anyone please feel free to correct.

[neophox]

Eustace wanted a long contract and Rovers didn't want to give it to him when he confronted them. We all know Venkys are bullshitters who don't lite when others throwing it on them. They probsbly wanted him to get on with it and see where they are at the end of the season befor deciding. Eustace got a better contract from and what he thought more stability at Derby and decided to move on. If we would be promoted... Would you keep any of our out of contract players? The loans may be signed anyway if promoted.

 

For me Eustace did what was best for him and not for the team....

Edited 16 hours ago by neophox

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I did. But someone showed me the regulations and pointed the opposite out.

I "think" the position is that he can only move to a Country where the window is still open. To  be treated as a free agent you've got to be a free agent before the window closes.

And that arguably therefore we should have terminated Sigurdsson's contract before the window closed.

Still wouldnt like to put the mortgage on it, if Im wrong anyone please feel free to correct.

That is correct and I told you that when we were debating but you stuck with your initial opinion.

[RevidgeBlue]

3-0 QPR Lol.