Eustace…he gone…*official*

[Blue blood]

I really don't get this whole it's only about money for Eustace line. It's like the last 13 months haven't happened, let alone the last 13 years... 

[47er]

12 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He's taken one step back to (in his mind) take two steps forward there's no doubt about that.

The worry from our point of view is why he felt compelled to do that and whether we know how bad things REALLY are behind the scenes yet.

I think we can guess! It'll be easier to list whose staying after this season than who's going. 

And no money for transfers.

What manager worth his salt would choose this job?

[47er]

4 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

The weak excuses don't wash, as they are a lie.

Derby do not have a better strategy, structure or longer term.vision at all.

There is nothing long term about Cambridge away.

He obviously doesn't think we are good enough to get in the play offs. Which is ideal motivation for our squad.

Put a sock in it! Seems like you're on a mission.

[Forever Blue]

4 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Well I have to admit, I took great pleasure in seeing derby get skelped and hurtling towards the trap door. 
I was a big get Eustace in when jdt went , I jumped to his defence when we weren’t winning at the start of his tenure, and I absolutely get that it’s a toxic environment to work in but……

he had a moral obligation to see out the season to the players and the fans and he has embarrassed us. No issue with him leaving in the summer , but now when it could potentially derail the whole season, I’m sorry but the meek excuses don’t wash. Let down so will take pleasure seeing derby drop

Moral obligation? Nonsense. Would Rovers have had a moral obligation to keep him on if we’d been bottom of the league?

He's fucked off cos the people running the club are useless. The end. 

Edited February 15 by Forever Blue

[martonrover]

32 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

I really don't get this whole it's only about money for Eustace line. It's like the last 13 months haven't happened, let alone the last 13 years... 

Agreed, people are convincing themselves that is the reason because they are angry.

The anger is understandable, but should be directed at the owners and the clowns running the show for them.

I think @RevidgeBlue made a great point, too, that it should have minds focussed on how bleak the outlook is when a manager is swapping a play off fight for a relegation struggle in the same division.

It’s surely unprecedented.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Roverthechimp said:

Do you think JE could just leave when he wanted to? It required someone to pay it and Derby were willing to do that. Not sure he’ll be on more money but he now has an income until summer 2028 regardless of what happens.

IF he stayed - would another club pay the fee required when so many more managers are potentially available during the summer as opposed to mid season? Not a chance he felt was worth taking despite a playoff chance at Rovers. That screams to me that he was absolutely desperate to leave - regardless of destination. His past at Derby was just window dressing 

It looks like he was desperate to leave since last summer.

[Mattyblue]

2 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Moral obligation? Nonsense. Would Rovers have had a moral obligation to keep him on if we’d been bottom of the league?

He's fucked off cos the people running the club are useless. The end. 

Exactly right. It’s a transactional industry. Clubs show no loyalty to managers, so why should a manager return the favour?

[RoversClitheroe]

Don't know why, don't think Eustace is in the wrong for leaving, and the club have probably broken thousands of promises as they always do, and we're in a terrible state, 13 players leaving end of season, no contract renewal since December 2023, and we are a basket case.

But at the same time I want Derby relegated 😂

[aletheia]

It’s quite probable that JE knows Derby are very likely to be relegated and still took the job. And yet he would still rather be there than here. Tells you all you need to know about Rovers. Any other talk of morality, greed etc is at best redundant,perverse and naive and at worst a deliberate attempt to deflect attention from the real dire issues.

1-0 😊Appoint Lowe now 😉

 

[RoversClitheroe]

6 minutes ago, aletheia said:

It’s quite probable that JE knows Derby are very likely to be relegated and still took the job. And yet he would still rather be there than here. Tells you all you need to know about Rovers. Any other talk of morality, greed etc is at best redundant,perverse and naive and at worst a deliberate attempt to deflect attention from the real dire issues.

1-0 😊Appoint Lowe now 😉

 

Lets not appoint lowe please.

[superniko]

19 hours ago, superniko said:

WBA 0-2 Rovers

QPR 4-0 Derby 

Maybe Big John was holding us back 🤔

Cough cough

[aletheia]

8th March will be fun.

[neophox]

Seems the combo of Lowe and Johnson doing great. Think they are a great combination. Lowe the old head and Johnson adding some new exciting things....dont know if it would be good to smash this with only 13+ games to go...

[neophox]

did anyone see Pasha or Waggott in the stands?

[Bbrovers2288]

9 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Moral obligation? Nonsense. Would Rovers have had a moral obligation to keep him on if we’d been bottom of the league?

He's fucked off cos the people running the club are useless. The end. 

Don’t understand your point here, his moral obligation is to the players and fans for supporting him and running through walls for him not to rovers per se. 

[roverandout]

4 hours ago, aletheia said:

It’s quite probable that JE knows Derby are very likely to be relegated and still took the job. And yet he would still rather be there than here. Tells you all you need to know about Rovers. Any other talk of morality, greed etc is at best redundant,perverse and naive and at worst a deliberate attempt to deflect attention from the real dire issues.

1-0 😊Appoint Lowe now 😉

 

Agree with everything apart from the lowe bit

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Don’t understand your point here, his moral obligation is to the players and fans for supporting him and running through walls for him not to rovers per se. 

Complete drivel.

[aletheia]

5 hours ago, roverandout said:

Agree with everything apart from the lowe bit

See the wink 😊

[onlyonejackwalker]

19 hours ago, 47er said:

Put a sock in it! Seems like you're on a mission.

Ok 47er. Enjoy our win and your Sunday.

Pleasingly the players are not fretting that he's gone and are still managing to perform in their toxic workplace.

[M_B]

We have our fans commenting on how strong the squad is looking, and we have Eustace leaving, supposedly because of the recruitment.

[47er]

1 hour ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Ok 47er. Enjoy our win and your Sunday.

Pleasingly the players are not fretting that he's gone and are still managing to perform in their toxic workplace.

Quite right---the players are getting on with it and we should too. No more point going over old ground.

Looking forward I'm worried the club will sign someone who tinkers (like Mowbray). Let's hope whoever's appointed

doesn't overthink it. Spirit of the players is key for us. Interestingly the players don't seem affected by  a) no contracts being

extended or so many loan players who'll leave.

But I am!   🥶

[philipl]

I think we can all draw our own reasoning for Eustace's departure (hint, it is the same as for JDT's departure) but there is one strikingly obvious conclusion.

John Eustace was absolutely convinced he could not get Rovers promoted to the Premier League and he rated his chances of  guiding us successfully through the play-offs (if we ever got there) were vanishingly slim.

Even a sporting chance assessment on his part of taking us to the Premier League would have outweighed the discomfort of working with cretins and the "allure" of managing inferior players in the relegation zone. 

 

Whoever replaces him has got to have a different assessment of our prospects and use the contract negotiations to neutralise the loons- at least between now and expiry of contracts on 30 June.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, 47er said:

Quite right---the players are getting on with it and we should too. No more point going over old ground.

Looking forward I'm worried the club will sign someone who tinkers (like Mowbray). Let's hope whoever's appointed

doesn't overthink it. Spirit of the players is key for us. Interestingly the players don't seem affected by  a) no contracts being

extended or so many loan players who'll leave.

But I am!   🥶

Maybe we have a group of players who put their pride and self respect first ?

[47er]

Good hard-hitting article from the Football League Paper on Rovers and Venkys.

Maybe someone with more brains than me can post it.

 

Edited February 16 by 47er

[roversfan99]

The narrative has definitely changed significantly after the statements by the club and also off the back of a couple of wins.

Short term, I still understand why he would have been frustrated by the January window. Will Dennis and/or Woodrow have any significant contribution in them between now and May? Ribeiro looks a shrewd short term pick up, and Kargbo has impressed in cameos. Sanderson seems a decent player to have to cover in defence, I still dont think Forshaw is what we needed but his goal was important yesterday.

But obviously in terms of building, our squad is still lacking any foundations. A large chunk of our squad is here short term and arguably our best 4 players (Brittain, Hyam, Tronstad and Travis) are all out of contract next summer. We havent renewed a contract for so long and that doesnt appear to change anytime soon, and the fact that Eustace didnt get any assurances regarding the summer suggests that we wont be in a position to rebuild.

Naturally our focus needs to be on this season at the moment, but the percentage change of promotion is so small. Even if say we have 50% chance of a play off position, which I would say is very generous, it leaves us with probably again a generous 10% chance of promotion from there. 3rd and 4th place will be heavy favourites. Then we are back to square one.