Eustace…he gone…*official*

[Upside Down]

11 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Of course it will be his fault if they go down. They have rarely lost by more than the odd goal all.year and were performing steadily until the recent bad run. He will be credited should they stay up. He will be criticised if they go down. They've gambled on him keeping them up.

Quite.

A bit extreme, but i for one will chuckle with every dropped point.

I can't believe how much some of you are missing him. He's not missing you. Best get over it. Good job our players dont give a flying .....

Shit show we have here compared to Derby? Recently relegated, financial armeggeddon, 21 point deductions, accounting irregularities, current relegation fodder, manager sacked, lost 7 on the bounce....yeah there's no comparison.

Eustace had a vested interest in spinning his departure away from the reality. Choose to believe that with pleasure. Or try and think of another 5000 reasons a week he left which my mate 47er has banned me from mentioning.

 

Ok Suhail, whatever you say.

[RevidgeBlue]

11 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Of course it will be his fault if they go down. 

Did you say the same about Mowbray when he took us down?

[onlyonejackwalker]

9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Did you say the same about Mowbray when he took us down?

Evening.

They were outside the bottom three when he took over. He's been employed to keep them up with fourteen games and 42 points to play for. He's got enough time.

I've already told you dont be crediting our latest wins to Eustace. Why is everyone so bothered about Eustace? I don't get it. He isn't missing you, me, the players, or the Rovers one iota.

 

Edited Monday at 19:27 by onlyonejackwalker
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[Mattyblue]

53 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Eustace couldn't possibly work for such terrible owners so applied for the Plymouth, Hull, PNE, Coventry, West Brom, Derby and Hong Kong under 17's in sheer desperation to leave. And be closer to home.

But then the minute he was offered a new job he went back to the useless, terrible dysfunctional owners to try and negotiate a new contract, on improved terms.

Happy to stay with more coin. Offski otherwise. Nothing to do with owners.

Of course he had. We all knew he was off, before he supposedly did.

Yes its about standards. We all bought into his togertherness mantra, well everyone apart from him that is. He was busy managing his bulk sms to anyone who would listen.

Whilst preaching unity.

He's been a total prick and I don't believe a word he says. 

Matty. Instead of asking me to detail the nuance, why don't you? 

I think it would take a much improved monetary offer to piss away the chance to take Rovers to the play offs and gamble on keeping Derby up.

If he had got us into the play offs, the parachute clubs coming down, the likes of Luton if they stay up, plus lower placed PL clubs would have all had a look at him. His stock would never have been higher.

If he takes Derby down he loses all that momentum and should a slow start befall him in League One they will sack him. 

He made a rash decision in my view, however he couldn’t get away from BRFC quick enough (just like the last manager) and that isn’t all due to him wanting a fatter contract like you seem to think it is.

[Dreams of 1995]

24 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Evening.

They were outside the bottom three when he took over. He's been employed to keep them up with fourteen games and 42 points to play for. He's got enough time.

I've already told you dont be crediting our latest wins to Eustace. Why is everyone so bothered about Eustace? I don't get it. He isn't missing you, me, the players, or the Rovers one iota.

 

It’s not about missing him, it is about disagreeing with what you say

I don’t think it’s much of a concession to say it could be possible that the state of our club and owner relationship played a part in JEs thought process

 

[47er]

5 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Contracts for players? More funding? Possibly. Every manager wants as much spent on players as possible and its hardly suprising the top four are amongst the wealthiest in our division.

 

2nd lowest spending on transfers after Swansea over a period of years.. 13 (14?) players free to leave for nothing in the summer, including our very best players.

We are truly incomparable. As JDT realised before Eustace came. Open your eyes (and keep your promises!)

[Upside Down]

53 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

It’s not about missing him, it is about disagreeing with what you say

I don’t think it’s much of a concession to say it could be possible that the state of our club and owner relationship played a part in JEs thought process

 

Totally agree.

Derby are shit. If I can see that then Eustace can clearly see it.

The fact that he was happy to jump ship to them rather than stay here should be enough for anyone to see what has happened here for the last 15 years.

He's definitely been rash though, should have seen out the season.

[aletheia]

15 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

I can't believe how much some of you are missing him. He's not missing you. Best get over it.

Playground stuff. And not the point I was making but then missing the point seems rife.

[aletheia]

15 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Shit show we have here compared to Derby? Recently relegated, financial armeggeddon, 21 point deductions, accounting irregularities, current relegation fodder, manager sacked, lost 7 on the bounce....yeah there's no comparison.

Ok so if we accept that, then it’s a tale of two shit shows. Only one pays 5k a week more. No brainer then 😊

 

[Ricky]

I still think he expected to get a new contract and the players contracts sorted. I think Derby were used to try to get what he wanted but it all went wrong. I bet he didn’t see ‘that’ press release coming at all. 

[nbdrovers]

43 minutes ago, Ricky said:

I still think he expected to get a new contract and the players contracts sorted. I think Derby were used to try to get what he wanted but it all went wrong. I bet he didn’t see ‘that’ press release coming at all. 

i think this is an interesting angle people seem to have missed so far. having recently rewatched the damned united and being reminded of clough's attempts to do the same at derby, it had me wondering if something along those lines was the point of all this and it simply went pear-shaped for him

[Forever Blue]

13 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

You believe he was entitled to demand a new contract. Why?

You must realise how stupid that sounds. We could lose every game till the end of the season and finish 15th. Why is he deserving of a new contract at the start of February?

Eustace wasn't paid to do a bad job. He was paid to do a good job. What are you not understanding?

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Anyway......What a brilliant response from the players to the chosen one leaving. Fucking dynamite. We look totally invigorated and full of confidence.

Maybe folk were not as enamoured as we are led to believe. Or a change is as good as a rest.

 

 

What am I not understanding? Why you think that football manager contracts are the same as yer average persons job. 🥹

[philipl]

Just like with JDT, JE is a pure football guy who found what passes for Rovers behind the scenes hard to stomach. Assurances weren't kept in the summer and the break down between him and the club was on the slow boil all this season.

I am grateful to Eustace for

1) being in charge of coaching the squad so expertly to produce an unexpected play-off chase

2) probably giving us two new manager bounces at a critical part of the season (Lowe and the new guy)

3) 3 points at Derby- surely self Pride is going to have the lads absolutely flying at pride park

 

[Cherry Blue]

Looking back to the win against pne and his enthusiastic reactions to players caught on video, he certainly didn't look like he was about to leave. 

Need to move on from this chapter but it's still a puzzle. Why did he appear so dedicated then gone. Few more months he could have been a wanted man.

[47er]

1 hour ago, Ricky said:

I still think he expected to get a new contract and the players contracts sorted. I think Derby were used to try to get what he wanted but it all went wrong. I bet he didn’t see ‘that’ press release coming at all. 

Speculation isn't it?

[Plastics]

1 hour ago, Cherry Blue said:

Looking back to the win against pne and his enthusiastic reactions to players caught on video, he certainly didn't look like he was about to leave. 

Need to move on from this chapter but it's still a puzzle. Why did he appear so dedicated then gone. Few more months he could have been a wanted man.

I personally think it's because he's a proper professional. He carried on doing his job well despite the behind the scenes stuff. Wasn't throwing his toys out the pram in public and didn't let it affect his management of the team. JDT took a different approach (which he was welcome to) and leant on them more in public. That didn't work either

[sharpysharps86]

3 minutes ago, Plastics said:

I personally think it's because he's a proper professional. He carried on doing his job well despite the behind the scenes stuff.

I agree. You don't drag a team up to the top 6 in the division whilst being unhappy with the way the club is run if you're not a top pro in your field.

That being said, the guy seriously gives me the ick now every time I've seen him talk since he went to Derby 😂.

[philipl]

https://x.com/RoversXtra/status/1891853235146694959

Edited Tuesday at 15:53 by philipl

[philipl]

Rovers ask for 1700 more tickets at Derby

[rigger]

3 hours ago, philipl said:

Rovers ask for 1700 more tickets at Derby

what was the initial allocation ?

[onlyonejackwalker]

On 17/02/2025 at 18:57, Upside Down said:

Ok Suhail, whatever you say.

That's twice you have called me that. And your little hangers on think it's amusing. Grow up.

It's a discussion forum. You are more than welcome to argue your point rather than childish little comments.

Did you see Derek Fazackerly, John Bailey, Kevin Hird, Don Martin or Bobby Svarc play? I did.

23 hours ago, 47er said:

2nd lowest spending on transfers after Swansea over a period of years.. 13 (14?) players free to leave for nothing in the summer, including our very best players.

We are truly incomparable. As JDT realised before Eustace came. Open your eyes (and keep your promises!)

There are 19 worst teams in the division than us. They would love to be in our shoes.

We cant compete with the parachute clubs. Like Ipswich and Luton last year we have to find a different way.

23 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Totally agree.

Derby are shit. If I can see that then Eustace can clearly see it.

The fact that he was happy to jump ship to them rather than stay here should be enough for anyone to see what has happened here for the last 15 years.

He's definitely been rash though, should have seen out the season.

Yes its blatantly obvious Derby are in big bother. He didnt leave for footballing reasons.

11 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

What am I not understanding? Why you think that football manager contracts are the same as yer average persons job. 🥹

i don't. Average folk dont get paid 15k a week.

You've still avoided the question. Why did Eustace deserve a new contract? Because we won away at Hull?

9 hours ago, Plastics said:

I personally think it's because he's a proper professional. He carried on doing his job well despite the behind the scenes stuff. Wasn't throwing his toys out the pram in public and didn't let it affect his management of the team. JDT took a different approach (which he was welcome to) and leant on them more in public. That didn't work either

This is where my problem liies..I also believed what you wrote.

But proper professionals dont apply to six different clubs, lie as to when approaches were made and discussions took place, hide in executive boxes whilst gainfully employed elsewhere and then shit all over the previous employer who gave them a chance, the true professionals who believed and trusted them, the new players who joined because of them and the fans that not only supported him this year, but also last year when we miraculously stayed up winning away at Leeds and Leicester. Whilst pretending he was fully committed.

We won 2 of his last 11. He was hardly doing his job well, but no one complained at any time. We understood and were supporting him to the end.

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I'm not in the know. But I know a lot of Rovers fans.

This will come out in the wash eventually. I dont know if it's accurate.

I was told last night he was on 800k at the Rovers.

I was told he is now on 1.4 million at Derby. A big jump if so.

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The Rams had already kicked off against Oxford United when Eustace got into the ground undetected by a crowd of 25,999 that had anticipated the appearance of the soon-to-be-anointed one.

He was still Blackburn Rovers head coach when he took his place in an executive suite in the West Stand to follow the action on TV, mindful that any view of the ground could reveal his presence and the imminent reality of the move.

He wasn't there to study the relegation battlers he would be leaving Premier League promotion chasers for. Although the forgettable goalless draw with the U's that lifted Derby out of the bottom three would have highlighted the enormity of the job ahead of him.

Rather, he was there to feel the thrum of supporters, the energy of a crowd that he so fondly recalls feeding off as a combative Rams midfielder a decade ago.

"I was there, but watching on the screens," he told BBC Sport. "I didn't want to get too close, but I wanted to feel the atmosphere again and be part of the matchday experience."

Edited Tuesday at 20:06 by onlyonejackwalker
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[Leonard Venkhater]

11 hours ago, Cherry Blue said:

Looking back to the win against pne and his enthusiastic reactions to players caught on video, he certainly didn't look like he was about to leave. 

Need to move on from this chapter but it's still a puzzle. Why did he appear so dedicated then gone. Few more months he could have been a wanted man.

Wanted man by Lucie Watson

Wanted man by Jeannie Brown

Wanted man in Derby County

And I hope he takes them down

[47er]

1 hour ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

There are 19 worst teams in the division than us. They would love to be in our shoes.

We cant compete with the parachute clubs. Like Ipswich and Luton last year we have to find a different way.

Does that "different way" include letting the contracts of your best players expire so we can lose them for nothing?

How can any manager plan for the future in those circumstances?