Upside Down Posted February 12 Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Eddie said: Never been employed. Hoping for my first job by the time I know 40. Know anyone? Can't help you there I'm afraid. The people I know are looking for someone useful. Quote
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Moderation Lead Popular Post K-Hod Posted February 12 Moderation Lead Popular Post Posted February 12 A lot of people already trying to shift all of the blame onto Eustace, 'well, everyone knows what Venky's are like', as thought it excuses them. For goodness' sake, if they'd given him the significant investment they claimed, (rather than gaslighting the fanbase) and a pay rise for doing well at his job (which any of us would expect in our own lines of work for the same), then none of this would have happened. All the manager speak about 'togetherness' is just platitudes. The club are aiming to shift focus from their own failures onto a perceived lack of loyalty from our soon to be former manager and by God, people are falling into the trap. Yes, he shouldn't be leaving for a team in 22nd and using family as an excuse, as though Blackburn Rovers have played anywhere else than Blackburn in the last 150 years, but if our owners and their underlings did their jobs properly, we'd be hot on the heels of the teams above us, instead of doing our annual mid season nose dive. Venky,s Pasha, Waggott and Gestede OUT. 32 Quote
islander200 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, K-Hod said: A lot of people already trying to shift all of the blame onto Eustace, 'well, everyone knows what Venky's are like', as thought it excuses them. For goodness' sake, if they'd given him the significant investment they claimed, (rather than gaslighting the fanbase) and a pay rise for doing well at his job (which any of us would expect in our own lines of work for the same), then none of this would have happened. All the manager speak about 'togetherness' is just platitudes. The club are aiming to shift focus from their own failures onto a perceived lack of loyalty from our soon to be former manager and by God, people are falling into the trap. Yes, he shouldn't be leaving for a team in 22nd and using family as an excuse, as though Blackburn Rovers have played anywhere else than Blackburn in the last 150 years, but if our owners and their underlings did their jobs properly, we'd be hot on the heels of the teams above us, instead of doing our annual mid season nose dive. Venky,s Pasha, Waggott and Gestede OUT. Reading on here I haven't seen anybody trying to shift the blame onto Eustace and away from the owners and board. Everyone is aware that our ownership is the major issue and they are the ones that need outing from the club. But people are allowed to be disappointed in the conduct of Eustace aswell 5 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted February 12 Moderation Lead Posted February 12 1 minute ago, islander200 said: Reading on here I haven't seen anybody trying to shift the blame onto Eustace and away from the owners and board. Everyone is aware that our ownership is the major issue and they are the ones that need outing from the club. But people are allowed to be disappointed in the conduct of Eustace aswell They are and I am too, but I just feel like it completely misses the point and focus needs to be on the owners. 7 Quote
islander200 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, K-Hod said: They are and I am too, but I just feel like it completely misses the point and focus needs to be on the owners. Agree to a certain extent, as its evident on other sites that some are leaning towards the clubs version ... But on here I see people who know the owners are the real problem, are willing to take action (protests etc) and know the board are not fit for purpose They just feel let down by John and are gutted another season is going to come to nothing, just more ridicule in losing our head coach to a relegation contender 2 Quote
AVE1875 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 15 minutes ago, K-Hod said: They are and I am too, but I just feel like it completely misses the point and focus needs to be on the owners. Agreed, the issues stem from the ownership and not Eustace. We can be frustrated but ultimately the root cause does not lie with JE... Some of our fanbase are filled with delusion, they have been for years, it's sickening how ignorant to the fact they are and how they try to claim the ownership is good for Rovers. You try to challenge them and they become insulting, come across as mildly intelligent until you challenge them, classic narcissistic behaviour. Edited February 12 by AVE1875 Quote
neophox Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) As much as I hate this ownership and board I'm starting to be a little bit disappointed at John Eustace for jumping the ship...he was not up for the fight for promotion ...only on his premises...he knew it would be hard here. He knew he needed to work hard to get something here and on first occation when someone wants you and that's an relegation club that looked awful last night...he jumps ship. We gave him a great chance here and he builded up his reputation then fook off to Derby Edited February 12 by neophox 3 Quote
martonrover Posted February 12 Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, islander200 said: Agree to a certain extent, as its evident on other sites that some are leaning towards the clubs version Well if people on here are focussing on Eustace, I can imagine how bad it is on the happy clappy sites and Facebook. Then I’ve got my mate behind me to look forward to on Saturday, telling me I’m mad for wanting Venkys out. Great. 1 Quote
Herbie6590 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 9 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: With how the club is currently being run - month to month - I would not be surprised if there's a winding up order as soon as this time next year when all of the money has run out. I think we'll go out of business shockingly quickly. They will remit sufficient funding from India to avoid us going into admin because of the reputational risk…but no more. 2 Quote
onlyonejackwalker Posted February 12 Posted February 12 5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Have you had your head in the sand for the last 2 years? He may well be getting a slighter better salary at Derby but at the end of the day that wont be the main reason he is moving from a Club in 6th to one in 22nd. Which Im sure wouldnt have been his choice in ideal circumstances. He's moving because the owners have ceased funding the Club, we have no particularly saleable assets left, those we do have cant get new contracts and he couldnt even get a contract extension for himself. Basically we look like a Club heading for sale or administration / liquidation at the end of the 2025/26 season. Whilst I didnt think Mowbray should have got a new contract do you think Eustace should have turned a long team deal from Derby down and risked getting to the end of his deal in 15 months time in a similar position not knowing what was happening? If it was you, you wouldnt do that. As for Travis and Tronstad as joint player managers you're obviously being facetious so I'll respond in kind. Wouldnt be against it - Tronstad might be better as a manager than....... I would guestimate his salary jump will be circa 5k a week. Time will tell. Of course the reason he's moving mid season to a team who have not won in ten with zero recent history of success is personal gain. Stop being so gullible. He doesn't give a shit whether Hedges or Siggy or Dolan gets a new contract. He doesnt care one iota if Travis or Batth gets an improved deal. They are work mates not family. He doesnt even care that six new players have just signed, based on us being 6th and him being manager. Imagine how they feel? He clearly doesn't care about the Rovers at all. I think it would be a very brave, interesting and exciting call to make Travis player manager for 16 games. It would unite the fans. It would unite the players. It would get everyone talking. We've nothing to lose and we should think creatively. Please don't give me Grayson, Lowe, Harris, O'Neil, Edwards etc as the players need energising, not having to believe in some boring plank talking the talk. Eustace hasn't played one minute of football this year. Not one. But Travis has. And he's been superb. Yes mentioning Tronstad was a joke. Allardyce, Warnock, Travis for 16 games would cheer me up. I dont care about summer in the slightest. 2 Quote
Glosrover Posted February 12 Posted February 12 In the style of the 1930’s Daily Mirror cartoon strip….Waggot trying to persuade his manager to stay…. 1 Quote
onlyonejackwalker Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 50 minutes ago, K-Hod said: A lot of people already trying to shift all of the blame onto Eustace, 'well, everyone knows what Venky's are like', as thought it excuses them. For goodness' sake, if they'd given him the significant investment they claimed, (rather than gaslighting the fanbase) and a pay rise for doing well at his job (which any of us would expect in our own lines of work for the same), then none of this would have happened. All the manager speak about 'togetherness' is just platitudes. The club are aiming to shift focus from their own failures onto a perceived lack of loyalty from our soon to be former manager and by God, people are falling into the trap. Yes, he shouldn't be leaving for a team in 22nd and using family as an excuse, as though Blackburn Rovers have played anywhere else than Blackburn in the last 150 years, but if our owners and their underlings did their jobs properly, we'd be hot on the heels of the teams above us, instead of doing our annual mid season nose dive. Venky,s Pasha, Waggott and Gestede OUT. No one is shifting blame. The owners have put the structure and finances into place to get us into 6th. They should have further gambled on this manager and trusted the process in January. It was a risk worth taking. Give him two or three quality Championship players and he would have stayed for 15 more games. Eustace could have left in the summer with everyone's blessing. But his head has been turned. And the easiest way to do that is with an improved offer. Edited February 12 by onlyonejackwalker Sp Quote
Groundhog Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Assuming Eustace hasn't officially gone, and negotiations are still ongoing, what are the chances of him turning up at the Hawthorns at half-time, with us 2-0 to the good, ready to claim the win? 🤣 4 Quote
martonrover Posted February 12 Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: The owners have put the structure and finances into place to get us into 6th. No, they got lucky with the head coach. Quote
onlyonejackwalker Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, martonrover said: No, they got lucky with the head coach. Mmmm you can't have it all ways MR. They recruited him, paid his salary, recruited and paid the support staff and players. Anything good that happens is luck? Anything bad is their fault? 1 1 Quote
ageoftherover Posted February 12 Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Groundhog said: Assuming Eustace hasn't officially gone, and negotiations are still ongoing, what are the chances of him turning up at the Hawthorns at half-time, with us 2-0 to the good, ready to claim the win? 🤣 I can't wait for the subsequent years of arguments about his win percentage. Quote
martonrover Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, onlyonejackwalker said: Mmmm you can't have it all ways MR. They recruited him, paid his salary, recruited and paid the support staff and players. Anything good that happens is luck? Anything bad is their fault? You specifically mentioned the structure and finances. The recruitment in the Summer was reasonable, and I would credit Park for that. Because Rovers are so dysfunctional, he’s slung his hook, again! The financial support has been pathetic and Eustace has performed a minor miracle in getting us so far up the table. He’s leaving because he knows it’s unsustainable. People on here realise the club is bringing run into the ground. Eustace can no doubt also see this. 1 Quote
Forever Blue Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 15 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: No one is shifting blame. The owners have put the structure and finances into place to get us into 6th. They should have further gambled on this manager and trusted the process in January. It was a risk worth taking. Give him two or three quality Championship players and he would have stayed for 15 more games. Eustace could have left in the summer with everyone's blessing. But his head has been turned. And the easiest way to do that is with an improved offer He asked the club for an improved offer. They refused. They didn’t value him. So he’s gone. Only the club is to blame for that. He doesn’t owe Rovers anything. Why would he stick around? Just so he can get your ‘blessing’? Deary me. Edited February 12 by Forever Blue 1 Quote
AVE1875 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Posts like this is what we have to contend with... Moronic. 2 Quote
Atko's Engine Posted February 12 Posted February 12 59 minutes ago, islander200 said: Agree to a certain extent, as its evident on other sites that some are leaning towards the clubs version ... But on here I see people who know the owners are the real problem, are willing to take action (protests etc) and know the board are not fit for purpose They just feel let down by John and are gutted another season is going to come to nothing, just more ridicule in losing our head coach to a relegation contender But if he did that, he'd just get labelled a "yes man", or a "Venkys stooge / sympathiser", & "willing to put up with their nonsense in order just to feather his own nest" a la Mowbray 1 Quote
Moderation Lead Popular Post K-Hod Posted February 12 Moderation Lead Popular Post Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, AVE1875 said: Posts like this is what we have to contend with... Moronic. The content tells you everything, the spelling and grammar, the cherry on top! 13 Quote
NeilInBristol Posted February 12 Posted February 12 9 hours ago, J*B said: I don’t hold any blame with Eustace. Came in, kept us up, got us top 6 in January, oversaw two disastrous transfer windows and thought fuck this. Isn’t allowed to speak to the owners and working under Waggott and Pasha? I’d engineer a move away too. 100% 3 Quote
AVE1875 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, K-Hod said: The content tells you everything, the spelling and grammar, the cherry on top! Probably took him a couple of hours to string that vocabulary vomit together too. The unintelligent trying to come across as intelligent. Both Facebook groups on my feed is full of if it; "Blackburn Rovers Supporters" and "TheRovers" Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted February 12 Posted February 12 24 minutes ago, AVE1875 said: Posts like this is what we have to contend with... Moronic. Thays absolutely a bot. Facebook and the Rovers fan group is full of them. So many fake accounts spouting pro Venkys/board stuff. 3 Quote
Mattyblue Posted February 12 Posted February 12 ‘The club’ should be supported at all times is the crux of it with such people. The fact that leads to them blindly defending the regime of Swag-ail and the owners when instead ‘support’ can actually be demanding said people depart from the club doesn’t compute. 2 Quote
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