Eustace Wants Out

[Boz]

23 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

He will end up signing an NDA & the club will spin the family line...

Yes I fully expect that narrative from the club, but I do not want it to be said by Eustace. Otherwise it helps Waggott, Pasha and co. 

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, roverblue said:

This just reinforces the point we are being run like in administration. Did I once read this costs £4m a year? If so it is an obvious saving to make for a club on its knees financially, however terminal to its footballing future.

It’s about £4m but half of it comes from funding. I think the cost to the club is about £2m

[Waggy76]

22 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Imagine next season when we shift about 3000 adult season tickets. 

Absolutely mental.

I think you can halve that if the owners are still here .

I got a feeling Waggott will be  gone very soon (retired not sacked ) leaving Suhail alone .

Then what happens ?

[joey_big_nose]

6 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

That’s the question for which I have absolutely no answer…it makes no sense other than some kind of subjective wish to avoid reputational damage of being seen to walk away from a failure. 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, this is the bit that just defies any explanation, which then leads to the view there must be something we are not seeing which leads to conspiracy theories.

Its hard to believe with all the heat from the court case etc they are just ignoring the situation at the club entirely, there must be a reason they want to keep it but minimise costs. But what is that reason...?

[islander200]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I cant see the difference from their point of view.

Realistically to offload control they're going to have to write off the debt due to themselves and more or less give the Club away anyhow.

(Unless we get promoted)

They will have no control.That is why 

Clubs that go Into administration it is usually because their external debt is large and the owners can't or wont pay it off and they put themselves into admin.

Most of our debt is internal.

You mentioned selling Brockhall.Why wouldn't they just do that themselves rather than have an administrator do it who will take less than market value?

 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, roverblue said:

This just reinforces the point we are being run like in administration. Did I once read this costs £4m a year? If so it is an obvious saving to make for a club on its knees financially, however terminal to its footballing future.

Nothing like that in real terms.

When the last attempt to sell Brockhall was made I think the figures were it cost £3.2m to run but we got a grant of £1.9m towards the running of it.

A bargain in relative terms you'd imagine most regimes would think.

[Trinidad Rover]

2 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

I think you can halve that if the owners are still here .

I got a feeling Waggott will be  gone very soon (retired not sacked ) leaving Suhail alone .

Then what happens ?

Gestede is nailed on to get the job. Exactly the reason he is in the shadows not rocking the boat.

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, islander200 said:

You mentioned selling Brockhall.Why wouldn't they just do that themselves rather than have an administrator do it who will take less than market value?

I wouldnt put it past Waggott to have another crack at doing that at some point.

Then when thats been done, most of the senior players have walked out and Carter's been sold, what advantage is there in putting the Club up for sale as opposed to into administration other than not losing face back in India?

Edited 10 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[davulsukur]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Nothing like that in real terms.

When the last attempt to sell Brockhall was made I think the figures were it cost £3.2m to run but we got a grant of £1.9m towards the running of it.

A bargain in relative terms you'd imagine most regimes would think.

As always nothing makes sense with these lot. The academy has been our life support for players in the first team and provided the biggest transfer fee received for a player. 

Scaling it back makes no sense, if anything they should be investing more into it.

[Waggy76]

1 minute ago, Trinidad Rover said:

Gestede is nailed on to get the job. Exactly the reason he is in the shadows not rocking the boat.

Could happen , I was more enquiring on Suhails position .He is going to be put under a lot scrutiny very soon.

Cannot see Gestede protecting him like Waggott ..

[chaddyrovers]

55 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Just read the second half of that sentence back to yourself and see how unlikely it sounds.

well we see in the coming hours what happened 

[Torgeir]

3 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Could happen , I was more enquiring on Suhails position .He is going to be put under a lot scrutiny very soon.

Cannot see Gestede protecting him like Waggott ..

Gestede will protect himself.

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Could happen , I was more enquiring on Suhails position .He is going to be put under a lot scrutiny very soon.

Cannot see Gestede protecting him like Waggott ..

Suhail is the COO and runs the club for our owners. he is decision maker 

[Waggy76]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Suhail is the COO and runs the club for our owners. he is decision maker 

UK based too ..

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

As always nothing makes sense with these lot. The academy has been our life support for players in the first team and provided the biggest transfer fee received for a player. 

Scaling it back makes no sense, if anything they should be investing more into it.

Exactly so. We should be a magnet for all the best young talent in the NW.

Lot easier to break into our side than City/Liverpool/ManUre etc

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

UK based too ..

He used to rent a house on Beardwood.

No idea if he still does.

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

well we see in the coming hours what happened 

Indeed we will.

To answer one of your other questions I dont know if Ive been calling for it as long as you, but for the last few months Ive been saying that Eustace needed to be given an improved deal and it was more important than any signings we could make in the transfer window.

[chaddyrovers]

51 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Head coach, manager. Dont be pedantic.

2 different roles and one you don't get. We haven't had manager for 18 months. 

51 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

So what you are saying is if you think the head coach should get to choose the players he is working with, that makes you exempt from being able to critique them? What utter bollocks.

Its yourself saying Eustace should sign the players he wants but when x player is mentioned as his choice, you slammed and say no no and no to it. 

 

51 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

He should have been given a new deal in the last few months but it shouldnt make a difference here either way. If we were run properly and gave him reasonable and competitive resources to do his job, then even if a side in the relegation zone activated his release clause, it would be laughed off.

I don't remember you ever posting on here that he should be given a new deal unlike myself who said back in September we should be offering him a new deal. I don't remember you posting in agreement. do you?

Derby has made the approach and activate his release clause cos Eustace is interested in the job and the terms offered. 

 

51 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

As it is and regardless of how "decent" you think the January window was. 22nd placed Derby is a more attractive proposition to a talented "head coach" as opposed to 6th placed Rovers. If ever you wanted to sum up Venkys run Rovers.

a poster on here has told you why Eustace is interested in leaving the Rovers job and for the Derby job. Where I guess he has been told he has funds to spend in the summer and a greater say in recruitment than he does at Rovers

what don't you get? 

so unless he gets offered assurances he wants here, I suspect he will be off there

[JamieUK]

Given they're supposed to be working together / the face of the board you'd expect Gestede to sit with Waggot and co at matches as you'd see at other clubs. He doesn't - there's no united front, they're all in it for themselves.

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@K-Hodwhen did you say the next meeting is?

[TugaysMarlboro]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

2 different roles and one you don't get. We haven't had manager for 18 months. 

Its yourself saying Eustace should sign the players he wants but when x player is mentioned as his choice, you slammed and say no no and no to it. 

 

I don't remember you ever posting on here that he should be given a new deal unlike myself who said back in September we should be offering him a new deal. I don't remember you posting in agreement. do you?

Derby has made the approach and activate his release clause cos Eustace is interested in the job and the terms offered. 

 

a poster on here has told you why Eustace is interested in leaving the Rovers job and for the Derby job. Where I guess he has been told he has funds to spend in the summer and a greater say in recruitment than he does at Rovers

what don't you get? 

so unless he gets offered assurances he wants here, I suspect he will be off there

That same poster said Eustace was given assurances last summer that the McGuire money would be available for him to spend. That didn't come to fruition.

So why would he think any assurances now will be different?

Edited 10 hours ago by TugaysMarlboro

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45 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

No one will buy this club once the fanbase is gone. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The fan base has been dwindling slowly and those regulars that would bellow out on the terraces have all moved on from football got new lives other stuff to do on a weekend etc

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[arbitro]

26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Suhail is the COO and runs the club for our owners. he is decision maker 

He isn't the decision maker. He is the conduit for the Punekars and right now the only one with a direct line to India. They ultimately make the decisions based on what he tells them.

[philipl]

All quiet on the Eustace Front from all parties...

Something's up. 

Any sightings in Derby?

Apparently not as their local rag is recycling old news as of 47 minutes ago

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-next-manager-live-9932378

 

[chaddyrovers]

17 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Indeed we will.

To answer one of your other questions I dont know if Ive been calling for it as long as you, but for the last few months Ive been saying that Eustace needed to be given an improved deal and it was more important than any signings we could make in the transfer window.

I said it 6 months. People like Eddie disagree with me. Most others didn't agree either. 

16 minutes ago, JamieUK said:

Given they're supposed to be working together / the face of the board you'd expect Gestede to sit with Waggot and co at matches as you'd see at other clubs. He doesn't - there's no united front, they're all in it for themselves.

when I looked at the director box I see Gestede and Owen sitting on the same row and next to Pasha, Waggott and another people

12 minutes ago, ... said:

@K-Hodwhen did you say the next meeting is?

Tomorrow night

11 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

That same poster said Eustace was given assurances last summer that the McGuire money would be available for him to spend. That didn't come to fruition.

So why would he think any assurances now will be different?

Cos he is stronger position in terms of league position and he has out performed what most people thought this season would be like