Eustace…GONE

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, CheshireRover said:

What will it take for you to see that there's no excuse, rhyme or reason for this to keep fucking happening? The family line is absolute bullshit, the article tells you this,

I suggested you look at previous posts by myself responding to your first paragraph this morning. Yet again OTT comments 

 

[wilsdenrover]

25 minutes ago, Gav Mac said:

It’s a 2 hour drive in rush hour from Blackburn to pride park, I’m guessing he’s not living in the ground and probably nearer the Birmingham side. The guy played for Watford and had no issue. 

His Linkedin says he lives in Sutton Coldfield.

Edited yesterday at 10:37 by wilsdenrover

[RoverDom]

I totally get JEs frustration with the club and understand him wanting to jump ship. If he'd gone to West Brom I'd get that. 

But Derby? Come on. He's sat with a good chance of getting play offs and it looks like we've got a couple of good additions from January, plus players starting to come back from injury we have a chance to make a good fist of it and aim for play offs. Surely you'd see out the rest of the season and potential get a play off finish under your belt. If we finish outside the play offs it's not going to damage his reputation too much given that we're not expected to finish there. Poor move jumping ship to Derby but shows what a shit show it is here that he'd swap a potential play off for a potential relegation. 

[JHRover]

12 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

My current feelings on a replacement:

Yes pile:

Dyche, Martin, Duff, Cooper, Edwards, Carsley, O'Neil, Ismael

Maybe:

Hughes, Critchley, Harris

No thanks:

Evatt, Bruce, Warnock, Warne, Gerrard, Rooney, Lowe

I know which pile we are most likely to appoint from. 

 

Remove from that list Carsley, Hughes, Critchley, Bruce as all are employed elsewhere and we don't go for people who are working in other jobs as it requires compensation. 

The 6 figure sum coming in from Derby for Eustace will not be used towards getting a new manager, it will be a bonus for Steve and Suhail's figures.

I can't imagine Martin, Dyche or Cooper would be options as they will still be collecting pay-offs from their last clubs and won't give that up for a few months at this horrible club. 

[Forever Blue]

9 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Blackburn Rovers have shot themselves in the foot for a second time in 12 months, with another successful head coach on the brink of departure.

Rovers fans will soon be campaigning for February 9 to be abolished. Not even the best script writer would plot an official approach for John Eustace on the day of his one-year anniversary as head coach.

It was 12 months exactly since the previous incumbent officially parted ways that Eustace was fielding questions on his future. 

There were 15 minutes between Rovers' announcements marking the end of Jon Dahl Tomasson's tenure and appointing Eustace. That won't be the same this time around. Whilst Eustace diplomatically stated he would hold talks with the board, everyone expects this to go one way. 

It would be naïve to think otherwise, considering Derby's confidence to make a firm play for a head coach positioned 16 places above them in the Championship table. You don't do that unless there's been a nod and a wink that you've got a mighty good chance of landing your target.

Whilst Eustace will not go out in the same blaze of glory as Tomasson, the underlying reasons are the same. Quite simply, he hasn't felt supported and views the Derby project as a better one than Blackburn Rovers'.

That is a damning indictment on a board that has failed to back their last three managers at crucial moments. Tony Mowbray had Rovers in second this time three years ago and they did not finish in the top-six after a dry January. 

Tomasson didn't get the striker he wanted in year one and they missed out by goal difference. In year two, he'd had enough and the failure to register Duncan McGuire was the final straw.

For Eustace, his cries for 'two or three quality players' went unanswered. Sure, Rovers signed six players but four of them didn't come until the final week of the window despite a mass injury crisis. There may well be some good additions over time but none of them ticked the boxes of top Championship pedigree and ready to go straight away.

Blackburn Rovers do not have the biggest budget and that is fine. The Championship has a food chain and an eco-system which Rovers simply don't sit at the top of. Ewood Park attendances are bottom half and the squad value sits similarly. To be sat sixth after 31 games, having lost Sam Szmodics, is a remarkable effort from staff and players.

But nobody can escape that Rovers have sold £30million of assets in the last 12 months. By my rough calculations, they have spent circa £2.5m in permanent transfers since then. That is simply inexcusable and is a huge driving factor in Eustace's decision to jump ship.

January's recruitment was short-term and Eustace, like the fans, can see the problems coming down the road. Rovers have 13 players who might not be part of their group come pre-season. That is poor planning and execution from the decision-makers.

When asked by The Lancashire Telegraph if he felt supported, his words backed the board. His facial expression and the smirk that followed painted the true picture.

Derby sold centre-back Erin Cashin for £9million to Brighton & Hove Albion in January. They too are a selling club, for the right price. But they instantly reinvested a reported £4m on defender Sondre Langas, as well as a further £1m on a centre-forward before that sale.

If Blackburn Rovers won't reinvest in their squad when they sell the likes of Adam Wharton and Szmodics, when will they? How does this club grow and create assets to plug the financial gap? They simply can't.

Since Gregg Broughton's departure, Rovers have neglected contract renewals. They're running out of players who would fetch good value and those that would are diminishing because of their dwindling expiry dates.

Rovers' board are fortunate that their last three appointment have been on the money. Tony Mowbray rebuilt the club, Tomasson took them to the brink before the ship started to sink. Eustace provided the life jacket and lifted them to dry land. But none of them are the root cause.

I sincerely hope there is not the same revisionism on Eustace's tenure as there was on Tomasson's. They did things in different ways but, when given the right tools, had Blackburn Rovers punching at the right end of the table. Both were failed by the board.

Family does play into this too. Eustace has been living in a Blackburn hotel since he took the job. His family remain at home in Birmingham, with two kids, 7 and 14, still in school.

If he can keep Derby County in the Championship this season, I'm sure he will get more assurances of investment and progress than at Ewood Park. It's a risk given they're 22nd but, let's face it, why would you back against him? 

If he achieves that feat, I don't think anyone would be shocked if the Rams are about Rovers in 12 month's time. That is a negative view but a reflection of the trust in the Blackburn board after 18 months of short-term planning, poor decision making and lack of clear communication.

They have once again played a deciding factor in driving away Blackburn Rovers' best hope of escaping this division. The book stops with them and that is where fans should vent their anger, not at Eustace.

Thanks for that.
The last paragraph is spot on.

[martonrover]

1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said:

His Linkedin says he lives in Sutton Coldfield.

When googling Sutton Coldfield , the distance to Derby comes up as one of the top search results 😂

[Forever Blue]

Just now, RoverDom said:

I totally get JEs frustration with the club and understand him wanting to jump ship. If he'd gone to West Brom I'd get that. 

But Derby? Come on. He's sat with a good chance of getting play offs and it looks like we've got a couple of good additions from January, plus players starting to come back from injury we have a chance to make a good fist of it and aim for play offs. Surely you'd see out the rest of the season and potential get a play off finish under your belt. If we finish outside the play offs it's not going to damage his reputation too much given that we're not expected to finish there. Poor move jumping ship to Derby but shows what a shit show it is here that he'd swap a potential play off for a potential relegation. 

He’s obviously thinking beyond this season. Derby have ambition. We don’t. 

[Paul Mani]

27 minutes ago, lraC said:

You posted about the club talking him into no resigning a while ago and I am pretty sure you are right.

if you know about it, then all those who matter at the club, the players, coaches and other key employees, will know about it too.

Given how Suhail is controlling the club and how he seems to be ensuring that the owners spend nothing, it is time to properly out him and I think it has to be the way now, rather than trying to get Waggott to come clean.

I noticed at the player of the year night in April last year, how Suhail was lurking around, keeping his eye on everything and he gets away with blending into the background and has no one to answer to, yet he is pivotal in everything.

Everyone knows mate. Look how many people we churn out…scouts, analysts, coaches etc. It’s completely dead in there…the reason JE has worked so well is because he demands that everyone look at themselves in the mirror. So you’ve got great lads doing the best for the club and each other. But that only goes so far. At some point the club need to reward the over performance with some quality additions, new contracts, updated equipment at training! There’s nothing!

fwiw - No one says Suhail is an arse hole or anything like that. I just think the feeling is that no one cares. We (Blackburn Rovers) are simply a line on a P&L spreadsheet. Zero emotion. Suhails job is to work in the best interest of his employers and they’re happy to keep plodding on. There’s LOADS of money. The Personal Guarantee issue, isn’t an issue! It just means they’re on the hook personally for anything they spend. But £10m is literally pocket change to these guys.

My guess, honestly is that they have very little idea, nor do they care really what’s happening. It’s a monthly / quarterly report amongst 10’s of others. And the person who reports it can easily paint this into a positive position!

”Sir / Madam? I write to inform you that I have turned the ship around! Blackburn Rovers are now in a status of profitability, whilst the team heads towards potential promotion. The business is sustainable” 🙈

[islander200]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

I suggested you look at previous posts by myself responding to your first paragraph this morning. Yet again OTT comments 

 

You are ridiculous 

You follow the club line every single time.

No doubt if our new manager has a better start than Eustace does at Derby you will be happy this has happened.

You realise half our squad departs In the summer , and Travis, Brittain ,Tronstad ,Hyam will be out of contract summer after.

Beyond "making the top 6" (which doesn't guarantee promotion ) how on earth can you be positive for the future of the club?

[lraC]

12 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Blackburn Rovers have shot themselves in the foot for a second time in 12 months, with another successful head coach on the brink of departure.

Rovers fans will soon be campaigning for February 9 to be abolished. Not even the best script writer would plot an official approach for John Eustace on the day of his one-year anniversary as head coach.

It was 12 months exactly since the previous incumbent officially parted ways that Eustace was fielding questions on his future. 

There were 15 minutes between Rovers' announcements marking the end of Jon Dahl Tomasson's tenure and appointing Eustace. That won't be the same this time around. Whilst Eustace diplomatically stated he would hold talks with the board, everyone expects this to go one way. 

It would be naïve to think otherwise, considering Derby's confidence to make a firm play for a head coach positioned 16 places above them in the Championship table. You don't do that unless there's been a nod and a wink that you've got a mighty good chance of landing your target.

Whilst Eustace will not go out in the same blaze of glory as Tomasson, the underlying reasons are the same. Quite simply, he hasn't felt supported and views the Derby project as a better one than Blackburn Rovers'.

That is a damning indictment on a board that has failed to back their last three managers at crucial moments. Tony Mowbray had Rovers in second this time three years ago and they did not finish in the top-six after a dry January. 

Tomasson didn't get the striker he wanted in year one and they missed out by goal difference. In year two, he'd had enough and the failure to register Duncan McGuire was the final straw.

For Eustace, his cries for 'two or three quality players' went unanswered. Sure, Rovers signed six players but four of them didn't come until the final week of the window despite a mass injury crisis. There may well be some good additions over time but none of them ticked the boxes of top Championship pedigree and ready to go straight away.

Blackburn Rovers do not have the biggest budget and that is fine. The Championship has a food chain and an eco-system which Rovers simply don't sit at the top of. Ewood Park attendances are bottom half and the squad value sits similarly. To be sat sixth after 31 games, having lost Sam Szmodics, is a remarkable effort from staff and players.

But nobody can escape that Rovers have sold £30million of assets in the last 12 months. By my rough calculations, they have spent circa £2.5m in permanent transfers since then. That is simply inexcusable and is a huge driving factor in Eustace's decision to jump ship.

January's recruitment was short-term and Eustace, like the fans, can see the problems coming down the road. Rovers have 13 players who might not be part of their group come pre-season. That is poor planning and execution from the decision-makers.

When asked by The Lancashire Telegraph if he felt supported, his words backed the board. His facial expression and the smirk that followed painted the true picture.

Derby sold centre-back Erin Cashin for £9million to Brighton & Hove Albion in January. They too are a selling club, for the right price. But they instantly reinvested a reported £4m on defender Sondre Langas, as well as a further £1m on a centre-forward before that sale.

If Blackburn Rovers won't reinvest in their squad when they sell the likes of Adam Wharton and Szmodics, when will they? How does this club grow and create assets to plug the financial gap? They simply can't.

Since Gregg Broughton's departure, Rovers have neglected contract renewals. They're running out of players who would fetch good value and those that would are diminishing because of their dwindling expiry dates.

Rovers' board are fortunate that their last three appointment have been on the money. Tony Mowbray rebuilt the club, Tomasson took them to the brink before the ship started to sink. Eustace provided the life jacket and lifted them to dry land. But none of them are the root cause.

I sincerely hope there is not the same revisionism on Eustace's tenure as there was on Tomasson's. They did things in different ways but, when given the right tools, had Blackburn Rovers punching at the right end of the table. Both were failed by the board.

Family does play into this too. Eustace has been living in a Blackburn hotel since he took the job. His family remain at home in Birmingham, with two kids, 7 and 14, still in school.

If he can keep Derby County in the Championship this season, I'm sure he will get more assurances of investment and progress than at Ewood Park. It's a risk given they're 22nd but, let's face it, why would you back against him? 

If he achieves that feat, I don't think anyone would be shocked if the Rams are about Rovers in 12 month's time. That is a negative view but a reflection of the trust in the Blackburn board after 18 months of short-term planning, poor decision making and lack of clear communication.

They have once again played a deciding factor in driving away Blackburn Rovers' best hope of escaping this division. The book stops with them and that is where fans should vent their anger, not at Eustace.

I have to say, that I considered Jackson to be a yellow belly, scared to upset the applecart, but fair play to him for this, scathing article.

 

Edited yesterday at 10:41 by lraC

[StHelensRover]

Great article from Elliot Jackson there. The comment section on the LT makes this forum look almost normal 😂 my hunch is that it's quite a lot of Dingles under fake usernames stirring so I don't read it anymore.

[RoversClitheroe]

Just now, islander200 said:

You are ridiculous 

You follow the club line every single time.

No doubt if our new manager has a better start than Eustace does at Derby you will be happy this has happened.

You realise half our squad departs In the summer , and Travis, Brittain ,Tronstad ,Hyam will be out of contract summer after.

Beyond "making the top 6" (which doesn't guarantee promotion ) how on earth can you be positive for the future of the club?

He's surely a Dingle I can't believe otherwise 

[RoversClitheroe]

Just now, StHelensRover said:

Great article from Elliot Jackson there. The comment section on the LT makes this forum look almost normal 😂 my hunch is that it's quite a lot of Dingles under fake usernames stirring so I don't read it anymore.

Allegedly bots setup by certain people.

[martonrover]

1 minute ago, RoversClitheroe said:

He's surely a Dingle I can't believe otherwise 

I think it’s more a case of trying desperately to believe in the establishment, despite all the damning evidence.

I think he tries to convince himself, and probably doesn’t succeed.

[HowzBRFC]

Has there ever been a more distarous ownership in sport let alone football? Yes clubs have dropped down lower than us (so far), but ownerships have changed hands unlike us. Realistically a club like Rovers you will only get one good ownership and period of success in a lifetime. Unfortunately we've had it. The power of the clubs in Cities is a lot more appealing to investors. 

Eustace was overachieving. The injuries caught up with us again after 3 poor windows. It will only get worse in the summer window with the loans and free's leaving. Why would he stay?

The irony is if we spent an extra £2-3m in Jan this headache may not have occured. If they tried to attempt players like Brittain, Hyam, Hedges, Eustace in to new contracts when we were 6 unbeaten and there was positivity around the club then again this headache may not have occured. This is a huge kick in the balls.

We may dodge a bullet this season due to points on the board but the summer after next could be disater with potential relegation and number of players out of contract. 

Just a shame it's happening to us when we were one of the best run clubs in the country under John Williams. 

[CheshireRover]

3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

He's surely a Dingle I can't believe otherwise 

I'd argue he's just another person on the internet who's absolutely desperate to always be on the winning side of any debate for some unbeknownst reason. Just makes him look naïve at the absolute best. 

Edited yesterday at 10:45 by CheshireRover

[sharpysharps86]

5 minutes ago, lraC said:

I have to say, that I considered Jackson to be a yellow belly, scared to upset the applecart, but fair play to him for this, scathing article.

 

Listening to his podcast in recent weeks you can hear the frustration growing within him....it was only a matter of time before he went with something like this, and credit to him for doing so.

[Penwortham Blue]

30 minutes ago, ... said:

When do the protests start again?

No idea, but just like the previous efforts, I will be there.

[KentExile]

5 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

He’s obviously thinking beyond this season. Derby have ambition. We don’t. 

And they likely have a plan which involves more than reducing costs & crossing their fingers in the hope that they manage to avoid relegation season upon season.

It can be seen that they sold Cashin for £9M, and immediately invested £5M of that into permanent  deals for a new striker & a new centre back, and another centre back on loan

Can we even dream of our owners etc investing over 50% of player sales back into the squad?

[Forever Blue]

2 minutes ago, KentExile said:

And they likely have a plan which involves more than reducing costs & crossing their fingers in the hope that they manage to avoid relegation season upon season.

It can be seen that they sold Cashin for £9M, and immediately invested £5M of that into permanent  deals for a new striker & a new centre back, and another centre back on loan

Can we even dream of our owners etc investing over 50% of player sales back into the squad?

Exactly, we’ve reinvested less than 10%

Edited yesterday at 10:52 by Forever Blue

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Whoever comes in they need to be the sort of manager that realises we won’t be getting out of this division with our lack of resources by playing “ Pep ball “.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The stuff about being promised x or y is total guesswork and rumour.

I trusted @Paul Maniinfo..

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But the reality is, no manager is going to be happy in the light of such significant sales, to be given such a minimal budget spread across loads of sub par sticking plasters, no contracts signed since Gestede was allowed on to the gravy train either is simply not good enough.

We should be deffo reinvest more money from sales. We both agree on that. 

I have mentioned the lack of contracts renewals as a massive issue and problem. 

On Gestede's appointment, If I remember correctly I wasnt keen on him taking that role. 

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The January window seems to be the straw that broke the camels back. A window you claimed to be a good one was clearly anything but. 

I said I decent one not a good one, key difference there which you misrepresented again!!! 😡

Kargbo and Dennis looked good yesterday and they will hopefully carry on. Riberio looked good at left back. Forshaw is a back up. 

I said repeatedly we should go all out and buy BTA which several of you weren't against. You were against Schlupp coming here. 

You are quick to say Eustace should decide who he wants but you are very quickly to disagree with his choices. I said we should have signed Dembele in the summer but you saying no, no, no but I thoughf you wanted him to decide so which one is it RF99? 

[Waggy76]

BTA isn't he the player that Suhail was telling blatant lies about , to some supporters in the 1st week of the transfer window ?

 

[arbitro]

1 hour ago, Rover down South said:

From league positions alone, the PL equivalent would be Eddie Howe leaving Newcastle to take the Leicester job. I know there are huge factors that make that a poor comparison, but looking at the league tables, that’s what it is (6th v 3rd bottom) and to the outside world, questions will be asked, and honest answers will be demanded.

You can argue over who is the bigger club etc, but you cannot sensibly justify why you would leave a club you have got into the playoffs, to take over a club in the relegation zone, not without some sort of transparency.

Surely no one is going to ‘buy’ the closer to home reason, and as someone else mentioned, it’s a smokescreen, one you’ll have to be pretty gullible to swallow.

We’ll be the laughing stock for a few weeks, but what this will do is highlight to the football world how badly run this club is.

Difference with this & JDT was the latter went off to Sweden. JE is going to another English club in the same league. This one won’t get swept under the carpet so easily.

Yeah but Leicester is closer to his home in Bournemouth 😂😉

[Inferi]

54 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Jackson pretty scathing for an LT reporter in his latest column

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24922325.blackburn-failed-john-eustace-mistakes/

This will upset the Venky brown-nosers in the comment section. Don't think they expect this kind of article from their beloved Venkygraph.