Eustace Wants Out

[arbitro]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

That's staggering but not surprising as it's consistent with a club that is run by people who have no connection or affinity with the area whatsoever. Has he ever been to Ewood, or actually watched Rovers play? It's ridiculous. It goes without saying this is not how a football club that has strong ties to the local community should be run.  It's all such a mess

When the Portsmouth match was in doubt and an early inspection planned he was at home in Brighton leaving the arrangements to the locally based staff who were at Ewood. In all my dealings with professional football clubs I've never known a secretary not be there on match days.

The malaise at Rovers runs deep.

[MB Rover]

3 minutes ago, J*B said:

Whilst I can understand the temptation to ring Waggott and give him your opinion, I can't allow his phone number to be shared here publicly. Please don't do this!

I’ll take an address? I’m not picky 

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You still can't grasp that we don't have a manager but a head coach.

You say Eustace should make the final call but then disagree with his choice. Playing both sides again and again

That's what the clause is there for. Rovers could have offered him a new contract but didn't. I said we should have done months ago. Did you agree? 

He has taken training according to every media source. 

You are very quick to assume that he will go but given he is still here and meeting Waggott and Suhail suggested nothing is lost yet

Head coach, manager. Dont be pedantic.

So what you are saying is if you think the head coach should get to choose the players he is working with, that makes you exempt from being able to critique them? What utter bollocks.

He should have been given a new deal in the last few months but it shouldnt make a difference here either way. If we were run properly and gave him reasonable and competitive resources to do his job, then even if a side in the relegation zone activated his release clause, it would be laughed off.

As it is and regardless of how "decent" you think the January window was. 22nd placed Derby is a more attractive proposition to a talented "head coach" as opposed to 6th placed Rovers. If ever you wanted to sum up Venkys run Rovers.

[islander200]

10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Maybe it's more likely they're trying to eke out the last remaining drops of value from player sales before placing the Club up for sale or into administration.

We're likely to have to suffer for a while longer yet though.

Putting the club into administration takes the power from them and gives it  to the administrator.

I'm not an accounts man so perhaps someone will correct me but I was under the impression our considerable debt is owed to the owners rather than externally?

If that is the case it makes administration a non starter...they would have no control over how much the club was sold for...they would also only receive a percentage of the debt accured back.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Trinidad Rover said:

Excellent article from Jackson. Well done.

That lad is going to get himself barred from Brockhall.

[MB Rover]

2 minutes ago, callumrovers said:

Yea I’ve heard this aswell. As of next season no Cat A

Thought I was the only one. Jack’s last legacy destroyed by the Pune Poons

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

If that was the case you wouldn't be letting Dolan go to Tribunal in the summer, you'd have sold him in January. Same with Brittain, Travis and Tronstad. 

There's no sense in letting them walk out for nothing though under any scenario unless they've calculated that overall it would be cheaper than giving them an extended contract on an increased salary.

[arbitro]

1 minute ago, MB Rover said:

Thought I was the only one. Jack’s last legacy destroyed by the Pune Poons

I wonder if that was the reason for the sudden departure of Stuart Jones?

[den]

9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Maybe it's more likely they're trying to eke out the last remaining drops of value from player sales before placing the Club up for sale or into administration.

We're likely to have to suffer for a while longer yet though.

That’s what I posted yesterday Rev.

IMO the court case changed everything. Venkys are tied to either covering any expenditure with the same cash in guarantees or indeed in seperate cash deposits with the courts. That could go on for years. Maybe that’s how Indian courts intentionally work. Since the court case began it appears that they have been putting in as little as they can and taking out as much as they can. That 40 million we talk about isn’t the clubs money, it’s their money.

Hope I’m wrong but I suspect this is bigger than just false promises to the manager.
 

 

[neophox]

Are Suhail and Waggot mates? Do they tell Venkys the whole picture or just bits....you do wonder..

[neophox]

1 minute ago, den said:

That’s what I posted yesterday Rev.

IMO the court case changed everything. Venkys are tied to either covering any expenditure with the same cash in guarantees or indeed in seperate cash deposits with the courts. That could go on for years. Maybe that’s how Indian courts intentionally work. Since the court case began it appears that they have been putting in as little as they can and taking out as much as they can. That 40 million we talk about isn’t the clubs money, it’s their money.

Hope I’m wrong but I suspect this is bigger than just false promises to the manager.
 

 

Why not just sell the club? Must be interested parties out there.....

[roversfan99]

Talk about the elephant in the room.

Here are some pictures of the cheap signings we made that tipped our soon to be announced manager over the edge.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, ... said:

When do the protests start again?

My protest will be an empty seat in the Jack Walker Stand if we really lose Eustace to Derby.

I won't be going again whilst they own the club. 

[neophox]

The worry is no club statement yet.

[Hasta]

1 minute ago, neophox said:

The worry is no club statement yet.

They're confused.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 minutes ago, neophox said:

The worry is no club statement yet.

There's nothing to comment on until he officially leaves. 

[RevidgeBlue]

I dont think the Court proceedings have any actual effect on us now but back when Waggott gave the infamous "coach" interview they were very much affecting us and seemingly changed their stance and attitude on us for good.

It does feel like we're moving (very slowly) towards some kind of end game and I suspect it's going to be tortuous in the meantime.

[rog of the rovers]

Making their Ewood curtain call.......👀

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, neophox said:

Do they tell Venkys the whole picture or just bits....you do wonder..

What do you think?

[Herbie6590]

26 minutes ago, Boz said:

When John Eustace leaves this week, I will be disappointed in him and lose respect for him, IF, he uses any excuse for his departure in connection with his family, previous connection and location in Derby, rather than the obvious real reasons surrounding his contract termination. 

By all means under any contractual conditions impacting any press comments, state no comment, or avoid the question, or state you would rather not go into the details. Otherwise our unscrupulous senior management will spin the story that the reason for him wanting to take up the Derby position, is down to location and family. In my opinion he would be doing a disservice to the long suffering supporters of Rovers.

He should not be using the commute as a excuse for a job he accepted only twelve months previously.

He will end up signing an NDA & the club will spin the family line...

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

There's nothing to comment on until he officially leaves. 

Or they give him a new three and a half year contract.

(Think a pig just flew past the window)

Edited 18 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[davulsukur]

9 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

My protest will be an empty seat in the Jack Walker Stand if we really lose Eustace to Derby.

I won't be going again whilst they own the club. 

Imagine next season when we shift about 3000 adult season tickets. 

Absolutely mental.

[Herbie6590]

25 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

They're currently providing the level of investment it takes to get out of the League all right.

Just not at the right end.

The old Tommy Docherty joke about promising to the chairman to get them out of this division...

[wilsdenrover]

16 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Putting the club into administration takes the power from them and gives it  to the administrator.

I'm not an accounts man so perhaps someone will correct me but I was under the impression our considerable debt is owed to the owners rather than externally?

If that is the case it makes administration a non starter...they would have no control over how much the club was sold for...they would also only receive a percentage of the debt accured back.

 

It is owed to Venkys London Ltd - the most up to date figure is £134 million.

This doesn’t include the sum they’ve ‘invested’ (buying the club + the issue of additional shares since - most recent figure £86.1 million)

 

Edited 18 hours ago by wilsdenrover

[Gav]

9 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

My protest will be an empty seat in the Jack Walker Stand if we really lose Eustace to Derby.

I won't be going again whilst they own the club. 

I said that last season when they couldn't wait to get Wharton out, I buckled and came back, but this could well be the tipping point. 

Nothing good will ever come of this club until they piss off back under the rock.