Rover down South Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Genuinely shocked by some of the negative comments regarding Beck. Was up and down the pitch all game and for me looked our best player. Not saying he was 10/10, but 3/10 a bit unfair! 1 Quote
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Gav Posted February 4 Posted February 4 23 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said: Just a guess but has Jim MK2 and his little group made tonight’s match 🙈 Has anyone seen Penwortham Blue and Jim MK2 😂 in the same room? No, me neither…. 1 Quote
superniko Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Funny one with Hedges as I don’t rate him, at least as a Championship winger, but the off-ball run and ball across for our penalty is something you won’t see from Dolan (would need 10 touches), ACD (wouldn’t make that type of run) or Weimann (legs wouldn’t get him there). He has occasional flashes but in general lacks quality. But I don’t have much good to say about the other ‘wide’ players either. 1 Quote
islander200 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 We really miss not having Travis and Tronstad in the midfield. It was a big mistake not signing a midfielder of decent quality 3 Quote
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Seen it all before. Ineffective. Tepid. Impotent. Barely laid a glove on them all game. Gueye did what he could but Hedges and Dolan just aren’t enough of a threat. Cantwell didn’t touch the ball. Sooner we drop out of the play offs the better. Rather it happen now than delude ourselves into thinking we’re anywhere close to good enough to stay in them. Quote
LeftWinger Posted February 4 Posted February 4 There are countless reasons we've been poor lately, but the facts are absolutely clear. We are better when Ohashi starts and Gueye is an impact sub. 1 Quote
BigHoz Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, superniko said: Funny one with Hedges as I don’t rate him, at least as a Championship winger, but the off-ball run and ball across for our penalty is something you won’t see from Dolan (would need 10 touches), ACD (wouldn’t make that type of run) or Weimann (legs wouldn’t get him there). He has occasional flashes but in general lacks quality. But I don’t have much good to say about the other ‘wide’ players either. It’s hard to judge when you’ve got to compare him with a whole other bunch of crap 😂 all 3 are poor. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, M_B said: It definitely wasn't a howler though, nowhere near. It was a comfortable save for a GK at this level. Considering he doesn't command his area and his distribution is woeful I expect him to at least save routine shots. Howler. 1 Quote
Penwortham Blue Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Gav said: Has anyone seen Penwortham Blue and Jim MK2 😂 in the same room? No, me neither…. I’m in Tenerife and so can’t take any blame for tonight’s loss. Meanwhile, Jim is probably somewhere in W12 🙁 3 Quote
Torgeir Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Probably? When was the last time you saw ACD run down the touchline on the outside of a player? Kargo did it to two lads in a row (before the CB came and cleaned it up). He's clearly quite quick. ACD is clearly quite slow. You’re right. I’m still reserving judgement on how effective he’ll be Quote
BigHoz Posted February 4 Posted February 4 32 minutes ago, neophox said: Kargbo showed more in 5 mins than Hedges all game. All season. 1 Quote
LeftWinger Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said: It was a comfortable save for a GK at this level. Considering he doesn't command his area and his distribution is woeful I expect him to at least save routine shots. Howler. It's not a howler. 3 Quote
DaveyB Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: For the first time this season I have to put that loss squarely at the feet of the manager. How he continues to trot Pears out there when he's giving away a goal a game is beyond me. Another howler again. If we had their GK it's at least a draw. Then to only give Kargbo 5 minutes at the end is criminal, especially with Hedges stinking out the joint again. You're not telling me he hasn't been running rings round our players in training - he ran past two of theirs like they weren't there then. I’m almost certain he won’t have trained with us at all yet, let alone run rings around anyone. Given we played Friday night, I’m not sure they’ll have trained between then and travelling down to London. The lad is probably only just learning his new teammates’ names, let alone how the manager wants to play etc - anyone expecting him to get anything more than about 10 minutes tonight was always going to be disappointed. From the other comments on here, I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who is frustrated by Cantwell - I got pelters for mildly criticising him earlier in the season. He should be made to watch the video of Chair from tonight - the way he finds space, makes dangerous runs and, most importantly, keeps possession for his team - that’s what we want (and need) Todd to be doing, but at the moment he doesn’t look capable Also interesting to see Eustace getting a bit of stick tonight. We’ve ridden our luck a bit this season - far too often we’ve been too careless in possession, but good results paper over the cracks. Now we’re on a poor run it’s more obvious that our tactics hand momentum to the opposition too easily. And whilst we all know that he has been let down in the transfer market by those above him, so has every manager these jokers have appointed. At what point does our poor run stop being a good manager let down and start being a ‘death spiral’? 1 Quote
Penwortham Blue Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I think we are really missing Ohashi’s energy. Whilst missing Travis and then Tronstad, I don’t think it is a coincidence that our form has gone south since Yuki got injured at Leeds. 5 Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 An interesting contrast was they brought their fading midfielder on whose goal won them the game, we brought ours on and lost the midfield Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted February 4 Backroom Posted February 4 I’d be trying Ohashi up front (when fit) with Dennis and Kargbo either side running oppo defences ragged before bringing Gueye on after HT to allow him his full energy instead of seeing him stutter after 70mins or so. 4 Quote
bluebruce Posted February 4 Posted February 4 32 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Cantwell ineffective off the bench, he has to start. Our front line has to be Dennis Cantwell Kargbo Gueye I can't see the logic here. If he is crap off the bench against tired legs, why should he start? 2 Quote
Gav Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said: I’m in Tenerife and so can’t take any blame for tonight’s loss. Meanwhile, Jim is probably somewhere in W12 🙁 😂 - ok Enjoy the canarian potatoes. Edited February 4 by Gav 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted February 4 Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, BigHoz said: All season. I nearly said the same, although to be literal a moment, Hedges does have a goal and an assist this season, neither of which Kargbo got in his cameo (understandably). I already feel confident he's a better player though, which isn't hard. Quote
neophox Posted February 4 Posted February 4 If you keep selling your assets and just make loans or get bench players who cant get in their teams you wont go anywhere....when did we bought a player whos been rioting the league? VENKYS OUT! 4 Quote
roversfan99 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 We wont make the play offs, we will scrape the odd game to feel like we are still in but weve seen it all before. We have been massively boosted by a 6 game spell where we conceded only 1 goal and everyone was playing well beyond their usual level. To be here now is one thing but a typical spell of terrible results means that there is a considerable cluster of teams all trying to be top 2 in a mini league. To try and get to the play offs, over 15/16 games we will probably need to consistently play at top 2 level to finish top 2, ie 5th or 6th. The usual standard of players is revealing itself. Pears has reverted back to being error prone. Our defence is no longer rock solid. Our midfield is off the boil without 1 of only 2 Championship levels midfielders that we have. And now our consistently poor attack cant get away with nicking 1 goal a game. No one can see a win at West Brom and unfortunately a Mowbray/Armstrong combination might feel like the hammer blow. 4 Quote
47er Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said: An interesting contrast was they brought their fading midfielder on whose goal won them the game, we brought ours on and lost the midfield Again. Quote
TheFinalCountdown Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Well beaten. A performance typical of many of late. We just aren't of the quality of a top 6/ even top 10 side. We'll still have days when we thrash a few teams, but we're not of a high enough standard. Quote
WacoRover Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I guess we have to wait until FA Cup match to see if transfers make a difference. 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted February 4 Posted February 4 18 minutes ago, superniko said: Funny one with Hedges as I don’t rate him, at least as a Championship winger, but the off-ball run and ball across for our penalty is something you won’t see from Dolan (would need 10 touches), ACD (wouldn’t make that type of run) or Weimann (legs wouldn’t get him there). He has occasional flashes but in general lacks quality. But I don’t have much good to say about the other ‘wide’ players either. Hedges has one assist all season, Dolan has 4. Quote
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