New manager wishlist

[AvRover]

2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Fwiw - I do think there was a contingency plan around JE, but in 5th position, he wasn’t going to get the sack, and deep down, I don’t think they expected him to push his way out bearing in mind the teams position, and his supposed affinity to the lads…

Added to this, the fact that a lot of managers will fancy this job now, the goalposts have moved and the caretaker manager has 2/2 wins! All takes the pressure off an immediate hire…though I think it will be done this week.

So - the list contained managers A, B and C. But because of the above we now have X, Y and Z who have applied and we want to speak with them as well as the others before we make a decision. That’s the likely scenario. Imo.

I agree but stress the need for a quick appointment. Dragging it out beyond Swansea raises anxiety and uncertainty which is what we don't need. Cracks will start to show in the fanbase and squad. Very quickly the club should be able to find the top six candidates who are viable then interview and appoint (hopefully by Wednesday). 

[TheRevAshton]

How on gods green tits has George Boateng ended up being the favourite on the betting odds?

Wasn't he only being touted as a number 2? Goes to show how easy it can be to sway the betting odds, at a stage like this they're not based on anything factual or likely.

[MarkBRFC]

Interviews are nonsense, any club that knows what they are doing, know who they are approaching when there manager departs.

All just a waste of time.

There is no plan here despite what they like you to think.

Edited Monday at 09:22 by MarkBRFC

[Hasta]

Clearly JDT had rocked the boat long enough for them to already be planning their next move, hence JE being brought in so quickly.

Eustace leaving wasn't expected and has caught them flat footed. 

[AvRover]

4 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Interviews are nonsense, any club that knows what they are doing, know who they are approaching when there manager departs.

All just a waste of time.

There is no plan here despite what they like you to think.

The club has been blindsided by Eustace and hasn't been as well prepared as it should've been - agreed. However, when a manager departs suddenly it sometimes does take a few days to work things out with the top candidates. You can't have a new manager on speed dial all the time, when the trigger is actually pulled the appointment might not work in practice. If we get a decent appointment by midweek, I think the club will have done OK- that's 10 days which seems reasonable.

[MarkBRFC]

Just now, AvRover said:

If we get a decent appointment by midweek, I think the club will have done OK- that's 10 days which seems reasonable.

Be amazed if this happens.

[Paul Mani]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If we are interviewing as many as has been reported, theres certainly no contingency plan.

With respect, how many high profile roles have you hired for? I only ask because the certainty of your statement suggests you have, but the content does not…

Here's the scenario - You have an incumbent manager in place and a contingency plan in case they leave. That contingency list is populated with a dozen managers who meet the criteria you set. The current incumbent had already offered his resignation in the summer and you know that he wanted more money spending in the Jan window, but is he REALLY going to leave us for a team in the relegation places?? Either way, you’re monitoring the ‘contingency list’ and highlighting your top 3-5 candidates.

Then, BOOM! He conspires to get his release clause triggered and he’s going. The key here is HE (JE) initiates the exit. You go back to the  contingency list and begin engaging the primary candidates. However, due to the incredible form of the team, the managers job is now arguably the best job outside of the PL right now and you get a number of applications you a) could not have expected, and b) are flattered by. From an admin perspective, trawling 100’s cv’s is not easy either, but you’d be crazy (and negligent) not to consider them. Right?

So, after roughly a week, you’ve boiled the contingency list down to 3, begun the interview process, and you’ve got another 3 candidates to speak to from the ‘other’ applicants. You want to speak with them all to get the right one.

That, is kinda how it actually works. 👍🏼

 

[BRFC4EVA]

What's this talk about Carrick? He hasn't gone has he?

[Forever Blue]

10 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

With respect, how many high profile roles have you hired for? I only ask because the certainty of your statement suggests you have, but the content does not…

Here's the scenario - You have an incumbent manager in place and a contingency plan in case they leave. That contingency list is populated with a dozen managers who meet the criteria you set. The current incumbent had already offered his resignation in the summer and you know that he wanted more money spending in the Jan window, but is he REALLY going to leave us for a team in the relegation places?? Either way, you’re monitoring the ‘contingency list’ and highlighting your top 3-5 candidates.

Then, BOOM! He conspires to get his release clause triggered and he’s going. The key here is HE (JE) initiates the exit. You go back to the  contingency list and begin engaging the primary candidates. However, due to the incredible form of the team, the managers job is now arguably the best job outside of the PL right now and you get a number of applications you a) could not have expected, and b) are flattered by. From an admin perspective, trawling 100’s cv’s is not easy either, but you’d be crazy (and negligent) not to consider them. Right?

So, after roughly a week, you’ve boiled the contingency list down to 3, begun the interview process, and you’ve got another 3 candidates to speak to from the ‘other’ applicants. You want to speak with them all to get the right one.

That, is kinda how it actually works. 👍🏼

 

Have you hired a football manager before in your role as CEO of a professional football club? You seem to know a lot about how it ‘actually works’.

Edited Monday at 09:45 by Forever Blue

[sharpysharps86]

10 minutes ago, BRFC4EVA said:

What's this talk about Carrick? He hasn't gone has he?

The talk over on Twitter is that he is getting the sack.

[MarkBRFC]

The real world and the football world are two completely different places.

[roversfan99]

Also, that scenario relies on the assumption that the club has been swamped by big name applications that they couldnt have expected.

IF the likes of Boateng and Boa Morte are being interviewed, and thats obviously a big if. Then they arent extras that we couldnt have possibly forseen applying for.

[Torgeir]

If someone has bagged the Rovers job, then they won't hold out for the Boro job because the list of potential candidates is even bigger there as it's a more attractive job at the moment.

Hopefully an announcement before the game next weekend against Swansea then, with Lowe and co. taking the team for that match as well.

[unleaded]

I would personally go with Damian Duff with Lowe & Johnson …The latter 2 would carry on the current tried and successful system and Duff would inject the freshness required with the little bit of Passion …. Not into this short 3 month appointment… Big Sam deff no … he can’t even put 2 sentences together these days …

[Ricceh]

37 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

How on gods green tits has George Boateng ended up being the favourite on the betting odds?

Wasn't he only being touted as a number 2? Goes to show how easy it can be to sway the betting odds, at a stage like this they're not based on anything factual or likely.

Don't use Shrek's name in vain

[jim mk2]

24 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Clearly JDT had rocked the boat long enough for them to already be planning their next move, hence JE being brought in so quickly.

Eustace leaving wasn't expected and has caught them flat footed. 

My first question to Waggott would always be: who is the next manager?

Succession planning is vital for any club. They have always to be one step ahead of the game because it’s always changing

It’s clear the dolts at Ewood had no plan in place in the event of the manager leaving - which it’s been clear for months he’s wanted to do

Just another example of how badly the club is run. A new manager should be in place by now

[Torgeir]

7 minutes ago, unleaded said:

I would personally go with Damian Duff with Lowe & Johnson …The latter 2 would carry on the current tried and successful system and Duff would inject the freshness required with the little bit of Passion …. Not into this short 3 month appointment… Big Sam deff no … he can’t even put 2 sentences together these days …

Would lof Duffer back. Get him on a £17m release clause too, for when Chelsea sacks Maresca.

[islander200]

8 minutes ago, unleaded said:

I would personally go with Damian Duff with Lowe & Johnson …The latter 2 would carry on the current tried and successful system and Duff would inject the freshness required with the little bit of Passion …. Not into this short 3 month appointment… Big Sam deff no … he can’t even put 2 sentences together these days …

Is Duff one the club have spoken too?Is he actually interested in coming here?

[roversfan99]

Of course he would be interested. It would be a monumental upgrade even allowing for the dreadful running of the club considering hes working in Ireland.

But he wouldnt even be mentioned if he wasnt a player here.

[ben_the_beast]

6 minutes ago, unleaded said:

I would personally go with Damian Duff with Lowe & Johnson …The latter 2 would carry on the current tried and successful system and Duff would inject the freshness required with the little bit of Passion …. Not into this short 3 month appointment… Big Sam deff no … he can’t even put 2 sentences together these days …

I voted for O'Neil, simply because I think Duffer would quickly turn into JDT mk2 in his interviews. I was torn in doing so though, because of all the managers linked, Duff is the one I'd be most excited for. 

And, even though it was clear JDT was heading for a parting of ways with the club for some time, I actually loved the way he conducted himself. Single handedly trying to change the mindset of the club. 

Now I'm typing this, I almost want to change my vote. Duffer would galvanise, has half an eye on the longer term, I have faith he'd be his own man, is a club legend. It all gives me very few concerns around his lack of top level experience. The only thing is, I'm sure he was quoted as being very happy in Ireland for the time being. 

[AvRover]

27 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

With respect, how many high profile roles have you hired for? I only ask because the certainty of your statement suggests you have, but the content does not…

Here's the scenario - You have an incumbent manager in place and a contingency plan in case they leave. That contingency list is populated with a dozen managers who meet the criteria you set. The current incumbent had already offered his resignation in the summer and you know that he wanted more money spending in the Jan window, but is he REALLY going to leave us for a team in the relegation places?? Either way, you’re monitoring the ‘contingency list’ and highlighting your top 3-5 candidates.

Then, BOOM! He conspires to get his release clause triggered and he’s going. The key here is HE (JE) initiates the exit. You go back to the  contingency list and begin engaging the primary candidates. However, due to the incredible form of the team, the managers job is now arguably the best job outside of the PL right now and you get a number of applications you a) could not have expected, and b) are flattered by. From an admin perspective, trawling 100’s cv’s is not easy either, but you’d be crazy (and negligent) not to consider them. Right?

So, after roughly a week, you’ve boiled the contingency list down to 3, begun the interview process, and you’ve got another 3 candidates to speak to from the ‘other’ applicants. You want to speak with them all to get the right one.

That, is kinda how it actually works. 👍🏼

 

Hmm, I don't think it excuses taking over two weeks for an appointment. Days, maybe, but you should spend a day narrowing down to a shortlist (say 6 people), being ruthless and getting the lowdown off a few agents. A lot of your shortlist will ultimately be who you were thinking of anyway. Two days to interview the shortlist - appointment. Maybe some politics delays things to ensure the appointment doesn't disturb the players and the fixture schedule. It's been seven days since we knew Eustace was gone, and we've got six clear days without a game - so we should be within spitting distance of an appointment. *Should* being the operative phrase!

[arbitro]

54 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Would anyone take Carrick here? He's not quite pushed Boro to the level I think people were expecting and he's been well backed but he's not done too badly for his first gig in management.

Personally I wouldn't take him. He does seem to have a propensity for Rovers like death spirals but in general he has been well backed by Gibson and ultimately come up short.

[arbitro]

Winning back to back games has really eased the pressure on the Ewood cohort to make an appointment. If we win at Swansea with Lowe in charge I just get a feeling they might go with him (if he wants it) for the rest of the season. 

And an important factor to them might just be that he comes on the cheap.

[Herbie6590]

2 hours ago, arbitro said:

I got a call from a friend who is well connected at Middlesbrough and he said they are expecting an announcement today that he Carrick is gone. His replacement has been lined up and is the one who I think the majority of us would favour as our manager.

GO’N? 🤔

[47er]

1 hour ago, Bohinen1983 said:

What's wrong with Warnock or Allardyce?!

As if you didn't know!! Both stuffed around by Venkys already anyway.