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[Leonard Venkhater]

1 hour ago, Displaced Rover said:

He’s back pretending to be a Rovers fan again is he? 🤦

"The worst day of my life"..

31/12/2011-after Grant Hanley's winner for his (beloved) Rovers..

So he can..well..fuck off!

Edited Tuesday at 20:29 by Leonard Venkhater

[RTM08]

8 minutes ago, neophox said:

Russel Martin hasn't been mentioned.

Let's keep it that way.

[Exiled_Rover]

5 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

"The worst day of my life"..

31/12/2011-after Grant Hanley's winner for his (beloved) Rovers..

So he can..well..fuck off!

Comes across as a bit of a twat in that interview - albeit I stopped watching after about 5 minutes. 

[Leonard Venkhater]

11 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

"The worst day of my life"..

31/12/2011-after Grant Hanley's winner for his (beloved) Rovers..

So he can..well..fuck off!

Never watched. I read it on the back page and I have an elephant's memory for quislings lol

[Eddie]

2 hours ago, Hasta said:

Confirmed no investment of the money received for Wharton.

Szmodics sold and not reinvested.

Never ending court case being adjourned to halt funding.

No existing players seemingly offered new contracts for over a year.

Half the squad currently leaving in the summer. Other key players leaving as it stands in 2026.

Other than league position, it’s a clearly less attractive than last year. If we don’t go up there looks to be an impossible job on.

 

League position is everything.

We have fairly decent squad with a dozen matches to go and the playoffs entirely within our own control.

That's much better than taking over a 'project' club that is currently 15th. I'll be as critical of the club as anyone, but we would do ourselves a disservice to not realise what a good situation the club is now in for the next 3/4 months.

Any unemployed manager worth their salt should want to be taking charge of a shot to nothing and see if this ends with them being a Premier League manager by the end of May.

If they don't take us up? Well, they can walk away if they want. Nothing lost at that point and they won't look bad given what happened with JDT and Eustace. 

[M_B]

1 hour ago, NeilInBristol said:

Yep!

They are just keeping us waiting.

We are the last to be told what's going on. Shocking Comms from the club since then lot took over.

Eustace has gone.

Lowe and Johnson are in temporary charge.

The club are interviewing for a potential new head coach.

What else are you expecting?

[LeftWinger]

52 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

sarcasm😁???

He's only appointed JDT and Eustace at Rovers. That's not a bad success rate.

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, Paul Mani said:

Argh, come on mate…think.

When JDT was sacked it was the clubs decision and they were about to be relegated.  Therefore, they wouldn’t have 100 applicants, and they could speak to managers for weeks in the lead up.

Honestly, if they had a shortlist and added 100+ applicants, then the timeframe is not abnormal and they 100% need to get this right. An announcement in the next week seems perfectly fine to me.

Who says JDT was sacked?

[jim mk2]

1 hour ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Eustace applying for jobs is a lot different to a club triggering a buy out clause.

I know you were ahead of the game with this subject Jim. But you are typing without thinking.

If Eustace could have left at anytime since last summer, we would have needed to have our chosen replacement in line ready to snap him up. For 8 months. Life isnt quite as smooth as that. People dont wait around for months on end hoping we will come calling.

And why would we expect him to leave with 18 months on his contract? You think he emailed everyone to say he was applying for jobs elsewhere?

Targets? Theres only one job. There's only one correct appointment.

How wrong you are re the bit in bold. The results are the only thing that matters, not your frustration things have not moved as quickly as you like.

We couldnt employ someone before Eustace left! And since he left we have won. What more do you want?

And I notice you've not been predicting mid table mediocrity of late. Any reason for that as you seemed so sure if yourself for months on end. Even when it was pointed out we were in the play offs all season.

 

1 hour ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Eustace applying for jobs is a lot different to a club triggering a buy out clause.

I know you were ahead of the game with this subject Jim. But you are typing without thinking.

If Eustace could have left at anytime since last summer, we would have needed to have our chosen replacement in line ready to snap him up. For 8 months. Life isnt quite as smooth as that. People dont wait around for months on end hoping we will come calling.

And why would we expect him to leave with 18 months on his contract? You think he emailed everyone to say he was applying for jobs elsewhere?

Targets? Theres only one job. There's only one correct appointment.

How wrong you are re the bit in bold. The results are the only thing that matters, not your frustration things have not moved as quickly as you like.

We couldnt employ someone before Eustace left! And since he left we have won. What more do you want?

And I notice you've not been predicting mid table mediocrity of late. Any reason for that as you seemed so sure if yourself for months on end. Even when it was pointed out we were in the play offs all season.

At the risk of repeating myself, his departure could never be a “surprise”, as you stated for the many reasons, that are well known and are well documented.

The potential replacements will have changed over the months naturally but a club that knew its manager could leave at any time would have been constantly up to speed on the names they would want to approach.

This seems to be going round in circles but it can’t be denied that it’s another example of a dithering and dysfunctional “management”.

And yes I am pleasantly surprised at the league position but after watching 10 games and 10 defeats this season - that’s 0 points out of 30 - you might understand my cynicism 

[Paul Mani]

1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Who says JDT was sacked?

Who says he wasn’t? And whether he was, or wasn’t, what’s clear is the the club engineered his exit and this was proven by the announcement of Eustace on the day JDT left.

it was a much different scenario to this one.

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, Jimmy612 said:

I think Russell Martin will go back in there. 

No chance,he shit on them to go Southampton previously 

4 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

A good chunk of the supposed 100+ applicants will be from the man on the street, probably piss takers from B*rnley.

Do you really think those piss takers from the shithole even see it through to Gestede, Owen, Waggott and Pasha desks? 🙄

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Clearly was no succession plan and you would think a number of these supposed applicants would be immediately discarded as not suitable.

And our club position would lead to some quality applicants domestic and overseas so what the issue with conducting a proper interviewing process. 

The team is winning  

3 hours ago, Mercer said:

This is feckin unbelievable.

Process smacks of cluelessness. 

Smart operators would have had this done and dusted before the Plymouth game.

 

No it's smacks of trying to find the right candidate that can work with our structure and not change too much in the short term. Lowe, Staff and the players are winning games. 

3 hours ago, JHRover said:

Why did they not run a similar process when searching for JDT's successor and instead got Eustace sorted out very quickly? Did they not have 100+ applicants back then?

I suspect the answer to that is that Broughton was involved in getting JDT and Eustace in and both happened quickly and professionally, whereas prior to Broughton arriving and now we see a totally different approach, quite shambolic.

The answer is a very simple one, relegation was the fear. Waggott lined Eustace up days before JDT and Elliott Jackson ran the article on the time backing this up..

3 hours ago, JHRover said:

In their efforts to make this managerial 'search' appear thorough and professional by referring to interviews and CVs coming in all they are doing is digging a deeper hole for themselves when they end up leaving Lowe in charge or hand it to another friendly face/linked agency client. 

I dont what your issue is in doing interviewing process and finding the right candidate in the short, medium and long term. 

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Who says he wasn’t? And whether he was, or wasn’t, what’s clear is the the club engineered his exit and this was proven by the announcement of Eustace on the day JDT left.

it was a much different scenario to this one.

Eustace announcement was made 15 minutes after JDT leaving announcement was

[JHRover]

20 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Who says he wasn’t? And whether he was, or wasn’t, what’s clear is the the club engineered his exit and this was proven by the announcement of Eustace on the day JDT left.

it was a much different scenario to this one.

He engineered his own departure and it had been months in the making.

Same as Eustace, only difference being that Derby's approach may have taken the club by more of a surprise this time.

It was abundantly obvious to anyone that both managers were keen to get out of here and jumped at the chance when it came. 

I suspect we are going to be somewhat disappointed by the outcome of this search because I don't think Waggott, Venkys or Suhail could pick their nose let alone a good new manager.

Mowbray came in during Paul Senior's spell as Director of Football, JDT and Eustace during Broughton's time. Outside of that we had a bungled search for Mowbray's replacement when it dragged on for weeks jeopardising pre-season before Broughton quickly sorted it out after his arrival. 

Not that it really matters either way because whoever they give it to will not be given the opportunity or resources to succeed.

[JHRover]

24 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I dont what your issue is in doing interviewing process and finding the right candidate in the short, medium and long term. 

There is no medium to long term. That's the issue. Only the short term i.e. the next 13 games.

I'd be saying that even if we were a fantastically well run club. And we certainly aren't that.

The summer and beyond is going to be a total disaster and unless there are cast iron promises on budgets and investment no manager worth his salt is going to get involved with this lot after the last two fiascos. 

The only thing that avoids that disaster is promotion and the only thing the club should be concerned about right now is ensuring the best man for that task is in place asap. Not drifting around sifting through 100+ CVs working out who looks alright.

You headhunt the best candidate for the job whether he has applied or not. That's if you know who and what you are looking for.

If you don't have a clue you sit back, wait for applications to come in then work through them until someone ticks your boxes.

 

[martonrover]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Not that it really matters either way because whoever they give it to will not be given the opportunity or resources to succeed.

The way I see it, all that matters at the moment are the next thirteen games, (and hopefully another three after that).

The job from the Summer onwards will be dictated entirely by what happens between now and then.

That’s why I think a short term appointment makes sense at this juncture.

Then it can be reassessed accordingly.

 

[callumrovers]

Interesting article on Gary Oneil’s tactics and style of play.

https://learning.coachesvoice.com/cv/gary-o-neil-wolves-bournemouth-tactics/#:~:text=With wide%2C final-third rotations,back into their central attackers.

Sounds similar to us currently. Think he’d do a good job.

Edited Tuesday at 22:01 by callumrovers
Can’t spell.

[Paul Mani]

12 minutes ago, JHRover said:

He engineered his own departure and it had been months in the making.

Same as Eustace, only difference being that Derby's approach may have taken the club by more of a surprise this time.

It was abundantly obvious to anyone that both managers were keen to get out of here and jumped at the chance when it came. 

I suspect we are going to be somewhat disappointed by the outcome of this search because I don't think Waggott, Venkys or Suhail could pick their nose let alone a good new manager.

Mowbray came in during Paul Senior's spell as Director of Football, JDT and Eustace during Broughton's time. Outside of that we had a bungled search for Mowbray's replacement when it dragged on for weeks jeopardising pre-season before Broughton quickly sorted it out after his arrival. 

Not that it really matters either way because whoever they give it to will not be given the opportunity or resources to succeed.

Waggott picked Eustace and they were talking long before JDT’s exit was engineered by the club. Sure, he wanted to go, but no one came in and paid for him…the club decided it was time to grant JDT his wish, went and sourced a manager and orchestrated the departure and arrivals within 15 mins.

As I’ve said, completely different set of circumstances.

[oldjamfan1]

The third of three interviews took place in Manchester today.

Announcement by Friday.

I wasted a fiver on Carsley earlier in the process but I think my £30 on Gary O’Neil has a decent chance of coming in 😉

 

Oh and RIP Rick Buckler 😥

[callumrovers]

2 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

The third of three interviews took place in Manchester today.

Announcement by Friday.

I wasted a fiver on Carsley earlier in the process but I think my £30 on Gary O’Neil has a decent chance of coming in 😉

 

Oh and RIP Rick Buckler 😥

On the wind up? What have you heard….

[JHRover]

10 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Waggott picked Eustace and they were talking long before JDT’s exit was engineered by the club. Sure, he wanted to go, but no one came in and paid for him…the club decided it was time to grant JDT his wish, went and sourced a manager and orchestrated the departure and arrivals within 15 mins.

As I’ve said, completely different set of circumstances.

How do you know Waggott selected him?

Sounds to me like him trying to gain free credit after Broughton the man employed to appoint managers, had left 

[martonrover]

2 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

The third of three interviews took place in Manchester today

? O’Neil, Wicksy + ?

[TheRevAshton]

42 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

The third of three interviews took place in Manchester today.

Announcement by Friday.

I wasted a fiver on Carsley earlier in the process but I think my £30 on Gary O’Neil has a decent chance of coming in 😉

 

Oh and RIP Rick Buckler 😥

[Paul Mellelieu]

I'll put the word out with my MCR friends and associates to be on the lookout for the Wagg.

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

There is no medium to long term. That's the issue. Only the short term i.e. the next 13 games.

Don't agree. 

Short term - next 13 games

Medium term- next season

long term - 2 seasons ahead

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The summer and beyond is going to be a total disaster and unless there are cast iron promises on budgets and investment no manager worth his salt is going to get involved with this lot after the last two fiascos. 

We wanted head coach who won't have too much say and trusted the recruitment staff with signings. 

 

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The only thing that avoids that disaster is promotion and the only thing the club should be concerned about right now is ensuring the best man for that task is in place asap. Not drifting around sifting through 100+ CVs working out who looks alright.

We have Lowe, staff and players who have won back to back games. 

I dont see what the issues is conducting proper interview process and finding the right appointment. 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

How do you know Waggott selected him?

Sounds to me like him trying to gain free credit after Broughton the man employed to appoint managers, had left 

Cos it was reported by Elliott Jackson and Alan Nixon.